Max Fischer Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 Seriously, did you really expect to win with JP this year if you knew that ANY of the following would happen?: 1. The Defense played average at best. 2. The Defense could not stop the run. What 200 yards two weeks in a row? 3. The Defense STILL can't stop the 3rd and long. 4. The "Offensive" Line can't pass block for more than two and half seconds. 5. Either the WRs cannot get separation (either due to the player or play design). JP is a rookie. And we cannot expect a Rookie to win the game and play from behind all the time. JP is no different than any other rookie, he can only play as well as those around him. He CAN'T carry the friggin team. Neither Manning, Palmer, Farve or any other rookie has EVER done that (ok, maybe Marino). JP will get better when the TEAM gets better. Don't expect any different from Holcumb or any other QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyghtewynd Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 10/23. 75 yards. No TDs. One INT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 I don't remember the last time I said anything negative about the defense.....but they really sh-- the bed today. At one point Atlanta was 6 of 8 on 3rd down.....Just an unacceptable performance from them today. This was the first game I've been able to see live on tv since the Pittsburgh game....it left me feeling pretty much the same way. I felt like vomiting most of the second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 It is funny how most of you guys didn't see the problem with the o-line when the other guy was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted September 25, 2005 Author Share Posted September 25, 2005 10/23. 75 yards. No TDs. One INT. 453090[/snapback] If you think the Bills lost because of JP then you didn't watch the game. It's a team game, if you forgot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 Seriously, did you really expect to win with JP this year if you knew that ANY of the following would happen?: 1. The Defense played average at best. 2. The Defense could not stop the run. What 200 yards two weeks in a row? 3. The Defense STILL can't stop the 3rd and long. 4. The "Offensive" Line can't pass block for more than two and half seconds. 5. Either the WRs cannot get separation (either due to the player or play design). JP is a rookie. And we cannot expect a Rookie to win the game and play from behind all the time. JP is no different than any other rookie, he can only play as well as those around him. He CAN'T carry the friggin team. Neither Manning, Palmer, Farve or any other rookie has EVER done that (ok, maybe Marino). JP will get better when the TEAM gets better. Don't expect any different from Holcumb or any other QB. 453085[/snapback] I think the order is wrong but agree on major points. Main issues I am seeing in last two games is lousy play calling. I understand that Atl had a whole new secondary but starting the game off with two bombs in a row isnt a way to get a young WB into the flow of a game. McNally is failing big as OL coach these guys stink at pass blocking. We keep trying down the field passes instead of quick ins, outs, screens and slants to get JP in the flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo in Pa Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 the running game was working - no way they only score 16 - the Falcons has DB's that were on the street 2 weeks ago - Losman sucked - there is no other way to say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 the running game was working - no way they only score 16 - the Falcons has DB's that were on the street 2 weeks ago - Losman sucked - there is no other way to say it. 453111[/snapback] Losman did suck, but MM and TC were idiots for taking the ball out of McGahee's hands....why go away from the run game???? We're only down by 8 for gosh sakes? DAMMIT that pissed me off..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 JP is a really inaccurate passer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted September 25, 2005 Author Share Posted September 25, 2005 I think the order is wrong but agree on major points. Main issues I am seeing in last two games is lousy play calling. I understand that Atl had a whole new secondary but starting the game off with two bombs in a row isnt a way to get a young WB into the flow of a game. McNally is failing big as OL coach these guys stink at pass blocking. We keep trying down the field passes instead of quick ins, outs, screens and slants to get JP in the flow. 453100[/snapback] There is no order. I'll stress again: if we expected ANY those things to happen we can not expect JP to do anything about it. Moreover, I agree, the play calling has taken a huge step back. No quick slants, not much play action, no reverses -- in other words, very little to make the defense hesitate a bit on the pass rush. Also, I think sometimes you need to take the "decision-making" away from a rookie, give him less of a progression, go for the quick hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyghtewynd Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 If you think the Bills lost because of JP then you didn't watch the game. It's a team game, if you forgot. 453099[/snapback] JP isn't part of the team? When did this happen? He may not be the only part of the team that stinks, but he certainly stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjeff215 Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 JP is a really inaccurate passer. 453122[/snapback] You know, it sure seems that way. Did anyone watch him at Tulane? I'm too lazy to go look up the stats... how'd he do? Of course, the fact that he's got about 1.4 seconds each time he drops back to let the play take form and setup to toss, doesn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenjames716 Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 You know, it sure seems that way. Did anyone watch him at Tulane? I'm too lazy to go look up the stats... how'd he do? Of course, the fact that he's got about 1.4 seconds each time he drops back to let the play take form and setup to toss, doesn't help. 453280[/snapback] Exactly!...I thought it was more like 1.2 seconds...but who's counting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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