Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Well, the bombings of the "drug smugglers" in the Gulf and Pacific are of very questionable legality. I'd say illegal unless I see a better justification than what Trump has given. The DOD lawyers have apparently written a memo (not released to the public) providing this justification (which is quite different from Trump's public one): - Drug smuggling activity funds the Mexican/international cartels, which in turn have been characterized as international terrorist organizations; hence, the bombings are aimed at international terrorism. It's a very, very shaky theory that's never been tested in anyone's courts. Trump's justification is just flat-out not a justification at all. And deploying troops to cities has been found to be illegal. https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/court-finds-trumps-use-soldiers-los-angeles-illegal 2
BillsFanNC Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Everybody discussing the "Seditious Six" needs to understand this: They are being investigated because they purposely started with a false premise and then use a proper comment as a conclusion. Like if someone says: "Whenever you eat dog feces, PLEASE brush your teeth before kissing your children." Yes. Obviously, if someone were to eat feces they should be brushing their teeth. But who the hell is doing that? In this instance, their false premise was not "eating dog feces", but a false claim of the President issuing umconstitutional orders. This false claim is a potential violation of 18 USC 2387. 1
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Everybody discussing the "Seditious Six" needs to understand this: They are being investigated because they purposely started with a false premise and then use a proper comment as a conclusion. Like if someone says: "Whenever you eat dog feces, PLEASE brush your teeth before kissing your children." Yes. Obviously, if someone were to eat feces they should be brushing their teeth. But who the hell is doing that? In this instance, their false premise was not "eating dog feces", but a false claim of the President issuing umconstitutional orders. This false claim is a potential violation of 18 USC 2387. No, they are being targeted for rightly speaking out.
sherpa Posted 27 minutes ago Posted 27 minutes ago Is anyone else thinking this is just a silly exercise? No illegal orders have been directed. Nobody needs to tell military personnel that are are not to abide by illegal orders. They know that, certainly at the commissioned officer level, where such things would originate. Looks to me like an attempt to orchestrate a completely political exercise for publicity. On to the next crisis. 1
The Frankish Reich Posted 24 minutes ago Posted 24 minutes ago 2 minutes ago, sherpa said: Is anyone else thinking this is just a silly exercise? No illegal orders have been directed. Nobody needs to tell military personnel that are are not to abide by illegal orders. They know that, certainly at the commissioned officer level, where such things would originate. Looks to me like an attempt to orchestrate a completely political exercise for publicity. On to the next crisis. Yes, it's a political exercise. And of course El Presidente has just insured that it will work as intended through his comic overreaction.
BillsFanNC Posted 21 minutes ago Posted 21 minutes ago 5 minutes ago, sherpa said: Is anyone else thinking this is just a silly exercise? No illegal orders have been directed. Nobody needs to tell military personnel that are are not to abide by illegal orders. They know that, certainly at the commissioned officer level, where such things would originate. Looks to me like an attempt to orchestrate a completely political exercise for publicity. On to the next crisis. Of course It's one thing if it's started by X accounts .. Another if by reliable media. But elected leaders? One who is retired military himself? Hang em high!
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