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Is that all they do?  Why not go the extra mile and say "terrorist"?  They're trying to change the world by "terrorizing" citizens of a country that they cannot defeat militarily.

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In other words, "Why not go the extra mile and be subjective?"

 

I think that question pretty much answers itself.

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In other words, "Why not go the extra mile and be subjective?"

 

I think that question pretty much answers itself.

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I think, in all seriousness, that it is just the BBC with it's worldwide audience.

They don't want to call it a terrorist act, because Scotland Yard has

not made a definite determination, and if it is a group other than the

one claimed, it may not be associated with the GWOT. I think they

may have learned a little from Spain's hasty proclamations.

 

The Pundits and Government will eventually label the action.

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In other words, "Why not go the extra mile and be subjective?"

 

I think that question pretty much answers itself.

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How is "terrorist" subjective? Isn't that what they're doing? They aren't trying to defeat UK militarily are they? But they are trying to affect policy by scaring UK citizens (or "terrorizing" them), right?

 

"Terrorist" is 100% accurate description of their strategy.

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How is "terrorist" subjective?  Isn't that what they're doing?  They aren't trying to defeat UK militarily are they?  But they are trying to affect policy by scaring UK citizens (or "terrorizing" them), right? 

 

"Terrorist" is 100% accurate description of their strategy.

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No, what they are doing is blowing sh-- up. "Terrorist" speaks to their motivation, not their actions.

 

I mean, yes, it's extremely likely that they are, in fact, terrorists. That does not mean, however, that the word is an objective term.

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No, what they are doing is blowing sh-- up.  "Terrorist" speaks to their motivation, not their actions.

 

I mean, yes, it's extremely likely that they are, in fact, terrorists.  That does not mean, however, that the word is an objective term.

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I hate to keep being a pain in the ass, but....

 

the word "terrorist" speaks to their actions and their strategy, accurately in both cases. I don't see why that isn't objective.

 

Unfortunately (for the terrorists) the word has a negative connotation because most people recognize that:

1. Their strategy involves the targetting and murder of civilians.

2. They have about a zero success rate if you take the long view.

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1. Their strategy involves the targetting and murder of civilians.

 

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I think that is the crux of it. In Japan they had the Aum Shinrikyo Cult

that gassed the subways. "Doomsday Cult" was more fitting than the

appelation terrorist.

Terror was not their goal. Killing people to precipitate the

end times was.

 

Although I think we know. We don't know for sure who did this stuff

in England.

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I think that is the crux of it. In Japan they had the Aum Shinrikyo Cult

that gassed the subways. "Doomsday Cult" was more fitting than the

appelation terrorist.

Terror was not their goal. Killing people to precipitate the

end times was.

 

Although I think we know. We don't know for sure who did this stuff

in England.

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Got a pretty damn good idea of just who is behind it, though.

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Got a pretty damn good idea of just who is behind it, though.

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Probably, but there were some neo-nazis bombing nightclubs

not long ago to incite violence against gays. Wouldn't a similar

approach incite violence against muslims. Although unlikely,

it is possible.

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Although I think we know. We don't know for sure who did this stuff

in England.

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OK, so after we confirm that it was a Muslim group patterned after Al Qaeda, will the BBC then resume using the word "terrorist" (and retroactively change "bombers" to "terrorists" in the same online articles that they have previously retroactively altered to remove "terrorists") to describe them?

 

I think we know they won't.

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OK, so after we confirm that it was a Muslim group patterned after Al Qaeda, will the BBC then resume using the word "terrorist" (and retroactively change "bombers" to "terrorists" in the same online articles that they have previously retroactively altered to remove "terrorists") to describe them? 

 

I think we know they won't.

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They won't.

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This thread has made me wish we could go back to Gene Frenkle's crazy rants about Karl Rove and Valerie Plame from yesterday.  :wacko:

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VARLIE PALEM AND AKRL ROVE BOTH ARE REPUBLICANS. RAWR BAD REPUBLICANS DIE.

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