gonzo1105 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 2 minutes ago, BBFL said: Because you don’t have 1st or 2nd round grades on them means there isn’t a depth of quality potential players? Got it. Look at the history and numbers, Safety has some moderate success rate for finding a player in rounds 3-7. 2018 provided 5 guys who are productive in the league between rounds 3-6. 1 All-Pro who was a UFA 2019; 6 between 3-7 1 UFA starter 2020; 6 between 3-7. (This draft has 3 guys half the board were clamoring over to sign this off-season) 2021; 4 between 3-6 2022; 2 between 3-7, 1 UFA 2023; 7 between 3-7, 1 UFA All of those referenced have either become a starter or log a decent amount of snaps coupled with production. In terms of the “mid range talent”, this draft has some decent prospects who could become starters over the next few years. More so to me than last years draft. Obviously it would have to be a revisit down the road, so you’re more than welcome to come back to this and prove me wrong when the time comes. I don’t disagree about the home run talent. It’s minimal at that position, 2-3 guys for the first two rounds. But there is a lot of quality and experience coming out this draft at that position. Right so it has depth but isn’t loaded with guaranteed guys. There are a lot of developmental guys in this draft. That’s what I said to you and you disagreed lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 11 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: Right so it has depth but isn’t loaded with guaranteed guys. There are a lot of developmental guys in this draft. That’s what I said to you and you disagreed lol I said “loaded with talent”… 🤷♂️ You specified rounds 1-2. There is 10-15 guys who have the talent to be a starter or key contributor on a team to me. Going by the previous years, that’s above the average. LOL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 2 minutes ago, BBFL said: I said “loaded with talent”… 🤷♂️ You specified rounds 1-2. There is 10-15 guys who have the talent to be a starter or key contributor on a team to me. Going by the previous years, that’s above the average. LOL? A class that has a bunch of guys who may or may not develop into starters is not a loaded class. It’s a class with depth. Maybe we just have different qualifications of loaded then. For example the 2022 draft imo was loaded at Safety with NFL starting quality safeties. Hamilton, Brisker, Cine, Cook, Pitre, Daxton Hill amongst others going in the first two rounds. Then you had guys like Kerby Joseph going in round 3. Then as the draft went along there was less developmental guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 (edited) 5 hours ago, Chaos said: Bills defense was a bit disappointing the entire season. Four of their worst efforts were in the first 9 weeks. Patriots, Broncos (12 men on the field being the seasons low point), Jaguars, Bengals games. The defense did let the team down in the playoffs as well. But that was not a new thing. On the contrary, the defense was ripping things up through the first six weeks or so, till the injuries started to land. The Broncos game the defense was in week 10. Newsflash: week 10 is not in the first nine weeks. See how that works? And more, the D was solid in that game. That game was mostly on the offense's turnovers and problems. The Broncos started their first drive on the Buffalo 28, their fourth drive on the Denver 48, their fifth on the Buffalo 31, their 7th on the Buffalo 47, their ninth on the Buffalo 48, their tenth on the Denver 46. It was a terrific job by the defense to hold them to 24 points with drive starts like that. And the 12 men on the field was on the STs, not the defense. That leaves three games that weren't great by your own reckoning, and they were in weeks 5, 7 and 9, mostly after the injuries started hitting. The D was terrific early in the season, before that. Edited March 25 by Thurman#1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 1 hour ago, BBFL said: Because you don’t have 1st or 2nd round grades on them means there isn’t a depth of quality potential players? Got it. Look at the history and numbers, Safety has some moderate success rate for finding a player in rounds 3-7. 2018 provided 5 guys who are productive in the league between rounds 3-6. 1 All-Pro who was a UFA 2019; 6 between 3-7 1 UFA starter 2020; 6 between 3-7. (This draft has 3 guys half the board were clamoring over to sign this off-season) 2021; 4 between 3-6 2022; 2 between 3-7, 1 UFA 2023; 7 between 3-7, 1 UFA All of those referenced have either become a starter or log a decent amount of snaps coupled with production. In terms of the “mid range talent”, this draft has some decent prospects who could become starters over the next few years. More so to me than last years draft. Obviously it would have to be a revisit down the road, so you’re more than welcome to come back to this and prove me wrong when the time comes. I don’t disagree about the home run talent. It’s minimal at that position, 2-3 guys for the first two rounds. But there is a lot of quality and experience coming out this draft at that position. All I have done for S is to read scouting reports. With few exceptions, the reports I’ve read describe a lot of what they used to call Strong Safeties. - I think they call them “box” safeties now. Most are described as good in run support leaving something to be desired in coverage. I don’t think that is what the Bills are ideally looking for in a passing league. Now, maybe the reports I’ve read are wrong or maybe just that there are different opinions on the prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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