BillsWatch Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Actually Ricky Williams owes the Dolphins several million dollars at this point, which I'm sure is a motivating factor in his return. Also, Kellen Winslow, Jr. has to repay the Browns somewhere between 2 and 3 million of his signing bonus because he violated the terms of his deal by riding a motorcycle. I get the jist of your comment though, Ryan Leaf gave back 0 dollars and neither Williams nor Winslow are doing it by choice. 353143[/snapback] That is what I said ... they give back bonuses <u>just</u> when they violate contracts so they should honor them and teams should take them to the wall when they do so. It is an even deal despite some on claims of unguarenteed contracts those who get signing bonuses they do get guarenteed money up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 If McGahee takes his game to the next level, give him his money. Also, is there any doubt that Rosenhaus is paying Mcgahee finder's fees for talking to other players? 352795[/snapback] He does that, he gets franchised, and will play in snow the rest of his life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mile High Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 I'm not worried until IF he holds out. For everyone who is worried about this CHILL out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 He does that, he gets franchised, and will play in snow the rest of his life 353239[/snapback] Getting franchised equals only one more season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prez105 Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 Could anyone with insider post the transcript of the chat wrap with rosenhaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfladave Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 Getting franchised equals only one more season. 353378[/snapback] Although it is rarely worth doing teams can franchise a player every year if they want to. The problem of course is that the team then pays the average of the top 5 RBs in the league, so for a RB that equals about $8 mil/yr or about 10% of your cap space. This has been done to several OL the last few years but QBs and RBs are rarely tagged for more than one year because of the cap cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 Although it is rarely worth doing teams can franchise a player every year if they want to. The problem of course is that the team then pays the average of the top 5 RBs in the league, so for a RB that equals about $8 mil/yr or about 10% of your cap space. This has been done to several OL the last few years but QBs and RBs are rarely tagged for more than one year because of the cap cost. 353542[/snapback] actually, a franchise player is entitled to an average of the top 5 at his position OR 120% of the previous year's salary (whichever is greater).......that is why it is so detrimental to tag year after year....... the reason this happened with jones and pace the last few years is simply because they couldn't get long-term deals done -- nothing to do with position.........in fact, it's cheaper to tag a RB then an OL, and QB is only around half a millon more....... side note -- the OL number should go down next year now that jones and pace have reduced their cap numbers for the upcoming season....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tux of Borg Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 The Rosenhaus Roster Agent Drew Rosenhaus has a client list long enough to fill two NFL rosters. Here's a look at the 89 NFL players he represents, broken down by division: NFC EAST Eagles (5): DE Hugh Douglas; DE Jevon Kearse; DE Jerome McDougle; WR Terrell Owens; OL Tra Thomas New York Giants (5): WR Plaxico Burress; LB Barrett Green; DT Norman Hand; LB Antonio Pierce; TE Jeremy Shockey Washington Redskins (6): WR Antonio Brown; DT Jermaine Haley; WR Taylor Jacobs; WR Santana Moss; RB Clinton Portis; S Sean Taylor NFC NORTH Chicago Bears (3): LB Lance Briggs; DT Tommie Harris; DE Adewale Ogunleye Detroit Lions (2): LB James Davis; WR Ernie Drummond Green Bay Packers (4): RB Najeh Davenport; S Arturo Freeman; S Earl Little; WR Javon Walker Minnesota Vikings (1): DE Kenny Mixon NFC SOUTH Carolina Panthers (1): LB Dan Morgan New Orleans Saints (2): CB Mike McKenzie; S Dwight Smith Tampa Bay Buccaneers (1): DT Lynn McGruder NFC WEST Arizona Cardinals (2): WR Anquan Boldin; DT Darnell Dockett San Francisco 49ers (2): DE Andre Carter; DE Andrew Williams St. Louis Rams (2): CB Travis Fisher; DT Damione Lewis AFC EAST Buffalo Bills (2): RB Willis McGahee; WR Roscoe Parrish (rookie) Miami Dolphins (12): CB Yeremiah Bell; DT Tim Bowens; OL Anthony Bua; K Olindo Mare; OL Stockar McDougle; TE Randy McMichael; RB Travis Minor; WR Kendall Newson; CB Will Poole; DT Dario Romero; LB Zach Thomas; DT Matt Walters New England Patriots (5): RB Cedric Cobbs; LB Larry Izzo; S Guss Scott; CB Duane Starks; TE Jed Weaver New York Jets (3): WR Jonathan Carter; CB Andrew Davison; LB Darrell McGlover AFC NORTH Baltimore Ravens (1): DE Dan Cody (rookie) Cincinnati Bengals (8): DT Matthias Askew; DE Duane Clemons; WR Chad Johnson; DE Elton Patterson; CB Keiwan Ratliff; WR Peter Warrick; WR Kelley Washington; LB Nate Webster Cleveland Browns (2): RB Reuben Droughns; DE Kenard Lang Pittsburgh Steelers (1): RB Verron Haynes AFC SOUTH Houston Texans (3): CB Phillip Buchanon; WR Jabar Gaffney; RB Vernand Morency (rookie) Indianapolis Colts (2): RB Edgerrin James; S Jarrell Weaver Jacksonville Jaguars (7): QB Quinn Gray; P-K Chris Hanson; DE Bobby McCray; OL Brett Romberg; DE Paul Spicer; DT Marcus Stroud; RB Fred Taylor Tennessee Titans: (1)OL Zach Piller AFC WEST Denver Broncos (3): CB Willie Middlebrooks; CB Lenny Walls; OL Chris Myers (rookie) Kansas City Chiefs (1): DE Carlos Hall Oakland Raiders (2): RB Rob Konrad; DT Warren Sapp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 The Rosenhaus Roster Agent Drew Rosenhaus has a client list long enough to fill two NFL rosters. Here's a look at the 89 NFL players he represents, broken down by division: NFC EAST Eagles (5): DE Hugh Douglas; DE Jevon Kearse; DE Jerome McDougle; WR Terrell Owens; OL Tra Thomas New York Giants (5): WR Plaxico Burress; LB Barrett Green; DT Norman Hand; LB Antonio Pierce; TE Jeremy Shockey Washington Redskins (6): WR Antonio Brown; DT Jermaine Haley; WR Taylor Jacobs; WR Santana Moss; RB Clinton Portis; S Sean Taylor NFC NORTH Chicago Bears (3): LB Lance Briggs; DT Tommie Harris; DE Adewale Ogunleye Detroit Lions (2): LB James Davis; WR Ernie Drummond Green Bay Packers (4): RB Najeh Davenport; S Arturo Freeman; S Earl Little; WR Javon Walker Minnesota Vikings (1): DE Kenny Mixon NFC SOUTH Carolina Panthers (1): LB Dan Morgan New Orleans Saints (2): CB Mike McKenzie; S Dwight Smith Tampa Bay Buccaneers (1): DT Lynn McGruder NFC WEST Arizona Cardinals (2): WR Anquan Boldin; DT Darnell Dockett San Francisco 49ers (2): DE Andre Carter; DE Andrew Williams St. Louis Rams (2): CB Travis Fisher; DT Damione Lewis AFC EAST Buffalo Bills (2): RB Willis McGahee; WR Roscoe Parrish (rookie) Miami Dolphins (12): CB Yeremiah Bell; DT Tim Bowens; OL Anthony Bua; K Olindo Mare; OL Stockar McDougle; TE Randy McMichael; RB Travis Minor; WR Kendall Newson; CB Will Poole; DT Dario Romero; LB Zach Thomas; DT Matt Walters New England Patriots (5): RB Cedric Cobbs; LB Larry Izzo; S Guss Scott; CB Duane Starks; TE Jed Weaver New York Jets (3): WR Jonathan Carter; CB Andrew Davison; LB Darrell McGlover AFC NORTH Baltimore Ravens (1): DE Dan Cody (rookie) Cincinnati Bengals (8): DT Matthias Askew; DE Duane Clemons; WR Chad Johnson; DE Elton Patterson; CB Keiwan Ratliff; WR Peter Warrick; WR Kelley Washington; LB Nate Webster Cleveland Browns (2): RB Reuben Droughns; DE Kenard Lang Pittsburgh Steelers (1): RB Verron Haynes AFC SOUTH Houston Texans (3): CB Phillip Buchanon; WR Jabar Gaffney; RB Vernand Morency (rookie) Indianapolis Colts (2): RB Edgerrin James; S Jarrell Weaver Jacksonville Jaguars (7): QB Quinn Gray; P-K Chris Hanson; DE Bobby McCray; OL Brett Romberg; DE Paul Spicer; DT Marcus Stroud; RB Fred Taylor Tennessee Titans: (1)OL Zach Piller AFC WEST Denver Broncos (3): CB Willie Middlebrooks; CB Lenny Walls; OL Chris Myers (rookie) Kansas City Chiefs (1): DE Carlos Hall Oakland Raiders (2): RB Rob Konrad; DT Warren Sapp 354029[/snapback] Damn, nice job smurf!! Could you take rosen out at 600 yards? I kid, I kid,,,,,,,,,,,,,,really I do........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted June 9, 2005 Author Share Posted June 9, 2005 The Rosenhaus Roster Agent Drew Rosenhaus has a client list long enough to fill two NFL rosters. Here's a look at the 89 NFL players he represents, broken down by division: NFC EAST Eagles (5): DE Hugh Douglas; DE Jevon Kearse; DE Jerome McDougle; WR Terrell Owens; OL Tra Thomas New York Giants (5): WR Plaxico Burress; LB Barrett Green; DT Norman Hand; LB Antonio Pierce; TE Jeremy Shockey Washington Redskins (6): WR Antonio Brown; DT Jermaine Haley; WR Taylor Jacobs; WR Santana Moss; RB Clinton Portis; S Sean Taylor NFC NORTH Chicago Bears (3): LB Lance Briggs; DT Tommie Harris; DE Adewale Ogunleye Detroit Lions (2): LB James Davis; WR Ernie Drummond Green Bay Packers (4): RB Najeh Davenport; S Arturo Freeman; S Earl Little; WR Javon Walker Minnesota Vikings (1): DE Kenny Mixon NFC SOUTH Carolina Panthers (1): LB Dan Morgan New Orleans Saints (2): CB Mike McKenzie; S Dwight Smith Tampa Bay Buccaneers (1): DT Lynn McGruder NFC WEST Arizona Cardinals (2): WR Anquan Boldin; DT Darnell Dockett San Francisco 49ers (2): DE Andre Carter; DE Andrew Williams St. Louis Rams (2): CB Travis Fisher; DT Damione Lewis AFC EAST Buffalo Bills (2): RB Willis McGahee; WR Roscoe Parrish (rookie) Miami Dolphins (12): CB Yeremiah Bell; DT Tim Bowens; OL Anthony Bua; K Olindo Mare; OL Stockar McDougle; TE Randy McMichael; RB Travis Minor; WR Kendall Newson; CB Will Poole; DT Dario Romero; LB Zach Thomas; DT Matt Walters New England Patriots (5): RB Cedric Cobbs; LB Larry Izzo; S Guss Scott; CB Duane Starks; TE Jed Weaver New York Jets (3): WR Jonathan Carter; CB Andrew Davison; LB Darrell McGlover AFC NORTH Baltimore Ravens (1): DE Dan Cody (rookie) Cincinnati Bengals (8): DT Matthias Askew; DE Duane Clemons; WR Chad Johnson; DE Elton Patterson; CB Keiwan Ratliff; WR Peter Warrick; WR Kelley Washington; LB Nate Webster Cleveland Browns (2): RB Reuben Droughns; DE Kenard Lang Pittsburgh Steelers (1): RB Verron Haynes AFC SOUTH Houston Texans (3): CB Phillip Buchanon; WR Jabar Gaffney; RB Vernand Morency (rookie) Indianapolis Colts (2): RB Edgerrin James; S Jarrell Weaver Jacksonville Jaguars (7): QB Quinn Gray; P-K Chris Hanson; DE Bobby McCray; OL Brett Romberg; DE Paul Spicer; DT Marcus Stroud; RB Fred Taylor Tennessee Titans: (1)OL Zach Piller AFC WEST Denver Broncos (3): CB Willie Middlebrooks; CB Lenny Walls; OL Chris Myers (rookie) Kansas City Chiefs (1): DE Carlos Hall Oakland Raiders (2): RB Rob Konrad; DT Warren Sapp 354029[/snapback] he must have picked up some more rooks, because i read that his cliet list was up to 91...but thats a hell of a job compiling the list, detox... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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