Koko78 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 The line must be drawn here, this far, no farther! This line only works if it's written with Patrick Stewart's accent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Dolt?? Have you used up your weekly allotment of idiot? Just felt like changing it up a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hplarrm Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 Too Long, Didn't Read: Socialist constructs are more profitable than free markets. I agree that my rambles do not express their points accurately, otherwise you might understand I was recounting the actual facts of the 80s NFL labor dispute. Stated more sharply: 1. Using strong free market tactics, the NFL team owners destroyed the ED Garvey led NFLPA which employed traditional AFL-CIO tactics. 2. This allowed the talented tenth of NFL players led by Gene Upshaw to follow the advice of NYC lawyers and threaten to decertify the union. 3. This would have left the owners operating in the true free market which you seem to think is so profitable. The owners were not stupid enough to believe this because they saw that if the NFL actually was to use a true free market, the result would have been the richest teams would buy the best players and this skewed league of a few winners and a lot of losers would be a lesser product. Also, ongoing labor unrest which made the product more erratic would have resulted in the TV nets investing less $. 4. The end result was that the team owners ran kicking and screaming to sign the CBA with the NFLPA which fully allowed the restraint of free commerce by the individual. Do you not understand that in a free market a player would sell his services to the highest bidder he could get so that he lived where he wanted. The current NFL is far from a free market as by agreement of the NFLPA, a 19 year old adult is not allowed to play pro football or that when a player is drafted he must play for that team. You do understand that in a capitalist free market, the team that wins games sells more tickets for their product can often buy the best players, but in the NFL governed by its social compacts, the worst teams are entitled to draft first and by rule get the first shot at FAs. Paul Tagliabue was able to convince the owners to sign onto a CBA which guaranteed the players 60.5% of the total revenues because the social compact model of the CBA was simply more profitable than the free market. As we now see the players becoming owners like The Kelly led group, or we see situations where the NFLPA successfully vetoed Rush Limbaugh as an owner and in the NBA it was player threats that appear to have done in Sterling, the product is getting less free market and more social compact driven. All signs point to the product being better and more profitable in conjunction with its rejection of the free market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) Major League Baseball, which engages in a "capitalist system", has more parity than the NFL. A few fun facts from Jayson Stark, over at ESPN. (the) World Series came at the end of a postseason in which five of the 10 playoff teams were teams that hadn't made the postseason the year before. That would be 50 percent of them, if you're calculating along at home. And what do you know -- that was still a better percentage of new teams than the NFL playoffs, in which only 41 percent (5 of 12) of this year's playoff teams were new. baseball hasn't had a season in which more than half of its playoff teams repeated since 2005. The NFL is working on a streak of five straight seasons in which at least half of its playoff teams were repeaters. the Broncos, Ravens, Patriots, Steelers or Colts are always in the Super Bowl....Those five teams have now represented the AFC in the Super Bowl in 16 of the past 18 years -- and 11 in a row Patriots -- who have made the playoffs in 10 of the past 11 years and played in the conference finals three straight years. 49ers -- who have also played in the conference finals three straight years. Seahawks -- who have made the playoffs in eight of the past 11 years. Broncos -- who have made the playoffs three straight years, six of the past 11, and 10 of the past 18.Packers -- who have made the playoffs in five straight years, six of the past seven, 10 of the past 13 and 16 of the past 21. Colts -- who have made the playoffs in 11 of the past 12 years. Saints -- who have made the playoffs in four of the past five years. Bengals -- who have made the playoffs three years in a row and four of the Past five. The NFL playoffs, over the past five seasons, have gone their merry way without eight teams -- six of which have never even had a winning record in any of those five years. That would be the Browns, Bills, Jaguars, Raiders and Rams. Over in baseball, on the other hand, 28 of the 30 teams have had a winning season at least once in the past five years. The only exceptions? The Mets and Astros. The team that won the World Series -- the Red Sox -- finished in last place the year before it won. In the NFL, on the other hand, they haven't seen a worst-to-first season by any Super Bowl champ since 2000-01, when the Patriots did it. the Yankees, with their $220 million baseball team, missed the playoffs. And so did the Phillies, Giants, Angels, White Sox and Blue Jays, who all ranked in the top nine in payroll and started the season with payrolls between $117 million and $165 million. Meanwhile, three of the five teams with the LOWEST payrolls in baseball did make the postseason. Oh, and one more thing: More clubs from the bottom 10 in payroll (four) made the playoffs than teams from the top 10 (three). the Yankees now have played in only one of the past 10 World Series. Right. We said one. Back in the NFL, on the other hand, the Steelers (three), Patriots (three), Seahawks (two) and Giants (two) have combined for 10 Super Bowl appearances over the past 10 Super Sundays. Just thought I'd mention it. 19 of the 32 NFL franchises (that's 59.4 percent) have won NONE of the past 25 Super Bowls.But over in baseball, more than half the franchises in the sport (16 of 30) have won at least one World Series in the past 25 years. And 24 of the 30 teams have played in one of those World Series. And 28 of the 30 teams have made the postseason just since 2001. That sort of debunks your entire argument. Edited May 2, 2014 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 You should read it. Never has so little been said in so many words with such epic hilarity by such a dolt. Clearly you've never read my work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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