Boludo Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 ... then you drank the Kool Aid. Yes, the defensive line looks nasty on paper. However: - It's still the same coaching regime that fielded one of the worst defenses in the league last couple years. - The linebacking corps is arguably the worst in the NFL. A washed up Barnett is the best linebacker, and is surrounded by a bunch of middle to late round unproven young players. - The cornerback group is arguably the worst in the NFL. Gilmore has great potential, but Williams looks like a bust and McGee is way over the hill and McKelvin was never good. Let's rewind the clock a few seasons and look back at what the Bills defense looked like in 2008, when they had a middling defensive unit: DL - Schobel, Williams, Stroud, Kelsay, Denney LB - Posluszney, Crowell, Ellison, Mitchell DB - Whitner, McGee, Greer, McKelvin, Wendling, Simpson, Wilson, Scott DC - Perry Fewell That DL was at least as good as this DL. That LB crew and DB crew were far superior to what we have today. Fewell was a good DC and currently is the Giants DC and seems to be doing well there. If our defense a few years ago was in the middle of the pack, and even on paper before the season started was MUCH better than this year's defense, why on earth would anyone expect the great things from this year's defense? The only way to immediately turn around a poor defense is to bring in an elite DC/HC, and the Bills have neither. There is good young defensive talent on this team but it is being wasted and their growth inhibited by this incompetent coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Cthulhu Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 lol That's about the only way to respond to OP's post. Amazing set of assumptions and a total absence of any supporting facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 (edited) ... then you drank the Kool Aid. why on earth would anyone expect the great things from this year's defense? "the d-line looks every bit as nasty as advertised" "i still think the bills will be improved and compete for a playoff spot" -Boludo, 8/27/12 "the spiller pick was obviously terrible - if you won't admit that you are just being foolishly stubborn" -Boludo, 1/12/12 Edited October 15, 2012 by ajzepp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 "the d-line looks every bit as nasty as advertised" "i still think the bills will be improved and compete for a playoff spot" -Boludo, 8/27/12 "the spiller pick was obviously terrible - if you won't admit that you are just being foolishly stubborn" -Boludo, 1/12/12 wow, that's a good research department Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 "the spiller pick was obviously terrible - if you won't admit that you are just being foolishly stubborn" -Boludo, 1/12/12 Considering how Chan NEVER GIVES HIM THE DAMNED BALL I think his assessment may still hold water. We are keeping out best player on the bench - so maybe it could still be considered a terrible pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 ... then you drank the Kool Aid. Yes, the defensive line looks nasty on paper. However: - It's still the same coaching regime that fielded one of the worst defenses in the league last couple years. - The linebacking corps is arguably the worst in the NFL. A washed up Barnett is the best linebacker, and is surrounded by a bunch of middle to late round unproven young players. - The cornerback group is arguably the worst in the NFL. Gilmore has great potential, but Williams looks like a bust and McGee is way over the hill and McKelvin was never good. Let's rewind the clock a few seasons and look back at what the Bills defense looked like in 2008, when they had a middling defensive unit: DL - Schobel, Williams, Stroud, Kelsay, Denney LB - Posluszney, Crowell, Ellison, Mitchell DB - Whitner, McGee, Greer, McKelvin, Wendling, Simpson, Wilson, Scott DC - Perry Fewell That DL was at least as good as this DL. That LB crew and DB crew were far superior to what we have today. Fewell was a good DC and currently is the Giants DC and seems to be doing well there. If our defense a few years ago was in the middle of the pack, and even on paper before the season started was MUCH better than this year's defense, why on earth would anyone expect the great things from this year's defense? The only way to immediately turn around a poor defense is to bring in an elite DC/HC, and the Bills have neither. There is good young defensive talent on this team but it is being wasted and their growth inhibited by this incompetent coaching staff. Wow, I have preached on other message boards that the D is not what it was to begin the season, they are just not that bad. They'll become very good to top 5 if they can continue to grow. This is a relatively new defense with lots of new faces, they were going to have growing pains. We won last night, get over yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 DL, LB and DB all looked pretty good yesterday. Then again, we're talking Kevin Kolb and John Skelton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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