pBills Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Wisconsin Republicans calling to turn out votes for fake Democrats - caught on tape Listen to the Republican message here The Republican Party in Wisconsin is supporting fake Democratic candidates in the recall elections. This tactic created primary elections and delayed the dates of the recalls. Originally they claimed that this was a delaying tactic to give the Republicans more time to campaign. Recently their true intentions have come forward. In emails they have been pushing to turn out votes for their imposter candidates. Now audio evidence has come forward of their efforts. Far from being ashamed they take pride in their efforts to subvert the process. These acts of desperation are not an affront to the Democratic Party, they are an affront to all of the citizens of Wisconsin. And now on top of that they are doing Robocalls from Virginia telling recall voters to stay home. Yes, they truly have the backs of the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_In_Norfolk Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Can't wait for their governor to be recalled! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 http://forums.twobil...31407-i-did-it/ Yes I am now once again a Republican....for the sole reason that I can vote for Michelle Bachmann in the NYS Republican primary next year. I will do everything in my power to make sure she is the Republican nominee. Then after that..... If the rules are anyone can vote in any primary, what's the issue? It's no different than the low bar for a recall in WI -- 25% of people who voted in an election need to sign a petition? No wrongdoing needed? Ridiculous. I'd be shocked if Moore didn't win the primary. I'll also be shocked if Moore wins the election. This audio is from my district, and this is the same district that voted for Prosser just a couple of months ago... Nothing's really changed since then (except WI has more jobs now than before). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 (edited) http://forums.twobil...31407-i-did-it/ That plus Jack Davis It's only dirty politics when the other guys do it. pBills should change his name to D-Shill Edited July 12, 2011 by /dev/null Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 With 79% of the precincts reporting, Shelly Moore only has a 54-46% lead in the primary... Against a candidate who literally raised roughly $1,200 and didn't campaign at all... Interesting. You can say, "it's because anyone can vote!" but then why aren't you seeing the same close races in any of the other primaries? It's because we don't want Moore in this district. We'll see if that holds up next month when the real election occurs and more people vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted July 13, 2011 Author Share Posted July 13, 2011 (edited) That plus Jack Davis It's only dirty politics when the other guys do it. pBills should change his name to D-Shill Yes, altering Voter ID laws and placing "fake" democrats into the election. Democrats do that ALL the time. HAHAHAHA!! I just love how open these morons are about it. A Wisconsin Republican spokesperson, when asked about the party’s “fake” Democratic candidates, said, “We certainly did not expect any victories out of the protest candidates…They did the job they were intended to do ... which was to give the incumbents time to get back to their districts and talk with voters after passing the budget." I am completely happy with the 6 for 6 results. Now it's time to take on the "Walker 6" and recall their asses. Republicans should face it, they went to far and are going to be paying the price for it. It's one thing to have open discussions about concessions (union members paying more for benefits and pension), it's another to demonize them while you are forcing through change to their livelihood. Edited July 13, 2011 by pBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Yes, altering Voter ID laws and placing "fake" democrats into the election. Democrats do that ALL the time. HAHAHAHA!! I just love how open these morons are about it. A Wisconsin Republican spokesperson, when asked about the party's "fake" Democratic candidates, said, "We certainly did not expect any victories out of the protest candidates…They did the job they were intended to do ... which was to give the incumbents time to get back to their districts and talk with voters after passing the budget." I am completely happy with the 6 for 6 results. Now it's time to take on the "Walker 6" and recall their asses. Republicans should face it, they went to far and are going to be paying the price for it. It's one thing to have open discussions about concessions (union members paying more for benefits and pension), it's another to demonize them while you are forcing through change to their livelihood. These "morons" were telling the truth -- while the incumbents were busy doing their jobs in Madison, the upstarts were already campaigning. So the extra month gives BOTH SIDES the time to campaign properly instead of giving only one side time to campaign. I don't see the problem with that. I'm glad you're happy with the 6 for 6 results now, because that won't happen next month. A shill in District 10 got 46% of the votes! In addition, not a single politician "demonized" the union during the process. The unions were the only ones saying, "Stop demonizing us!" or "Stop attacking the middle class!" The government was just saying, "We have to balance the budget." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted July 13, 2011 Author Share Posted July 13, 2011 These "morons" were telling the truth -- while the incumbents were busy doing their jobs in Madison, the upstarts were already campaigning. So the extra month gives BOTH SIDES the time to campaign properly instead of giving only one side time to campaign. I don't see the problem with that. I'm glad you're happy with the 6 for 6 results now, because that won't happen next month. A shill in District 10 got 46% of the votes! In addition, not a single politician "demonized" the union during the process. The unions were the only ones saying, "Stop demonizing us!" or "Stop attacking the middle class!" The government was just saying, "We have to balance the budget." At least they told the truth about the "fake" democrats plan. Still doesn't make it any better. Well, even if they don't get 6 for 6 they can still take over the majority. The government was lying about the budget, you realize that right? Even Walker himself stated that collective bargaining really has no effect on the issues at hand in WI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 At least they told the truth about the "fake" democrats plan. Still doesn't make it any better. Well, even if they don't get 6 for 6 they can still take over the majority. The government was lying about the budget, you realize that right? Even Walker himself stated that collective bargaining really has no effect on the issues at hand in WI. You're taking that out of context. it has no direct impact on the budget, of the state. However it's definitely required to allow the LOCAL government to control their costs. Why do you think all of the local unions were forcing through new contracts before the budget went live? Where do you think that money comes from? LOCAL GOVERNMENT. I'd be pretty surprised if the democrats manage to make any inroads. Heck, they may even lose a seat themselves. I remember reading people like you saying Prosser was going to go down in a ball of fire... Yet here he is for another ten year term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Again, I will say that "given your and other Democrats behavior since 2003" I firmly don't give a F about your whining. You lowered the bar, now you have to deal with the consequences. You should have thought about the consequences of what the Republican party(you know, the guys you keep saying are pure evil?) with gloves off would do to you before you decided to drop yours. What if you are right? What if they are pure evil? You thought it was a good idea to behave away all rules/standards of conduct, such that now these evil guys can do whatever the F they want with impunity, granted by George Soros minions like Media Matters and legitimized by elected Democrats like pre-President Obama? Now there aren't any rules, and the gloves are off, and frankly: if you thought the beating you took in 2010 was bad, wait till 2012. You can save yourself and your party from this. But you won't listen to me , just like you didn't listen when I told you to accept a few union defeats here and there, and consolidate your message and position, don't risk proving that a single governor can beat you in a big fight, because if one does, then they all will. Stay focused on what you can win, don't get spread too thin. You chose the opposite: and, as I specifically told you, it's now open season on all unions everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_In_Norfolk Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Forget Wisconsin for now and look at Romney's collaspe in Iowa! http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/elections/'>http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/elections/ Bachmann on a roll!!! Forget Wisconsin for now and look at Romney's collaspe in Iowa! http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/elections/ Bachmann on a roll!!! Oh ya, and it's all Obama's fault! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 (edited) Forget Wisconsin for now and look at Romney's collaspe in Iowa! http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/elections/ Bachmann on a roll!!! Oh ya, and it's all Obama's fault! Again, the fact that the mormon is up near the top, who isn't signing any of the social pledges that the panderers are, in my view a sign of real strength, specially considering that Iowa is Bachman's home state (I believe). Once Iowa and South Carolina are over with, Romney is gonna crush the social panderers. Edited July 14, 2011 by Magox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Again, the fact that the mormon is up near the top, who isn't signing any of the social pledges that the panderers are, in my view a sign of real strength, specially considering that Iowa is Bachman's home state (I believe). Once Iowa and South Carolina are over with, Romney is gonna crush the social panderers. I will argue once again that this is not pandering if all you are doing is affirming existing beliefs. Pandering, to me, is picking a position for the sake of getting votes. Obama on gay marriage is pandering. You're either for it or against it. He's against it, except when he's evolving, or when it's a state's right, in which case it's perfectly okay as long as he doesn't have to say that the actual right for gays to marry is okay to him. On the other hand, I think all of these pledge documents are stupid as hell and if I were a candidate for ANYTHING, I'd publically sign a pledge pledging not to sign any more pledges and that's the end of that. I would also add that you are completely correct about Romney. All of these little polls are useless right now, as is evidenced by the fact that many polls show Obama losing to a generic Republican, but beating all the currently announced GOP candidates. As long as the economy remains in it's current state of Obamaggedon, Romney will crush anyone in his path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_In_Norfolk Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Again, the fact that the mormon is up near the top, who isn't signing any of the social pledges that the panderers are, in my view a sign of real strength, specially considering that Iowa is Bachman's home state (I believe). Once Iowa and South Carolina are over with, Romney is gonna crush the social panderers. I dunno....If Paladino can win in New York than Bachmann can win anywhere. The GOP is crazyland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 I dunno....If Paladino can win in New York than Bachmann can win anywhere. The GOP is crazyland YOu just can't help yourself can you? tsk tsk you know all those far right nut jobs that you hate? You're the exact same in bizarro parallel land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Again, the fact that the mormon is up near the top, who isn't signing any of the social pledges that the panderers are, in my view a sign of real strength, specially considering that Iowa is Bachman's home state (I believe). Once Iowa and South Carolina are over with, Romney is gonna crush the social panderers. Assuming Perry stays out I agree. Romney will walk away with the nomination If Perry gets in on the other hand, it's a 2 way race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_In_Norfolk Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Assuming Perry stays out I agree. Romney will walk away with the nomination If Perry gets in on the other hand, it's a 2 way race. Watching Rachel right now and oh boy I think Romney would be great! Check out the Bain capital dirt they have on the "job creator" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Watching Rachel right now and oh boy I think Romney would be great! Check out the Bain capital dirt they have on the "job creator" Yeah now there's an unbiased source. Is Ed next up for you tonight? I heard somewhere he was from Norfolk too. Maybe you can ride The Tide with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_In_Norfolk Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Yeah now there's an unbiased source. Is Ed next up for you tonight? I heard somewhere he was from Norfolk too. Maybe you can ride The Tide with him It was totally biased, that's the point, they are ready to bomb Romney and it looks like a big bomb I was watching Hannity, too. Juan Williams just about had a stroke trying to catch every Hannity lie, super funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 (edited) It was totally biased, that's the point, they are ready to bomb Romney and it looks like a big bomb I was watching Hannity, too. Juan Williams just about had a stroke trying to catch every Hannity lie, super funny! This is all great. But none of it, and no amount of campaign money removes these judgements that are almost set in concrete: 1. Obama is a so-so leader at best. 2. Obama has no clue how to run the economy And also, no amount of schit talking on cable news removes the "we are getting an object lesson in "why Keynesian economics doesn't work on an large scope or scale" conclusion from people's minds, and that is a much bigger concern for you than whether one bad candidate remains President. This is now about setting the left back for all time, and that's what you need to consider. Drop all the bombs on Romney that you want, it won't fix the "candidates don't matter, your ideology sucks" problem. Is dropping bombs on Romney in a vain attempt to save Obama...worth losing the 10 points of independents? If you lose them, you lose every election for the next 12-20 years. If the ideology successfully challenged and exposed...they will be gone. You do not want to let Obama continue to undermine "Democrats are for jobs for the middleclass". That's precisely what he has done by listening to the socialists and extremist college professors. If anything, you want Obama gone yesterday. You want to run Hillary Clinton or Ed Rendell. Somebody who gets results first, and has not been affected by the fantasyland college environment. Somebody who will save the ideology from extinction by using it, properly, to get results, and not using it to "transform America" into an assclown European country. Finally this is like the two guys and a bear story: Romney doesn't have to out-run the bear, maybe he can, be he doesn't have to. All he has to do is out-run Obama, and right now? That's an easy one. Edited July 15, 2011 by OCinBuffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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