DrDawkinstein Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Yeah, he looks like a player. In fact I like this whole Chiefs team -- they are young and seem to have a lot of talent. Well, theyve picked in the top 5 for the past 3 years in a row. Guess that means only 2 more seasons like this past one for the Bills, and we should be STACKED! (Just like how the Chargers picked in the top 5 for 4 out of the first 5 years that Butler/Smith/Nix were there, and then came out with a loaded team) Patience will be a virtue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 It's pretty hard to truly evaluate our secondary since we our Defensive front is so weak. When the RBs are getting huge holes to run through and the QBs have all day to pick us apart, it's kind of hard to determine how good/bad our secondary players are. We need some serious help at DE, DT & LB. Actually, now that I think of it, we're not giving RBs huge holes, they just run right over, through and around us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 I have never seen a post asserting DW lived up to his pick. The way the Ravens owned the middle and Heap dominated I'd say outside of those highlights Berry didn't either, not yet anyway. DW is a good, not great SS. thats it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 I have never seen a post asserting DW lived up to his pick. The way the Ravens owned the middle and Heap dominated I'd say outside of those highlights Berry didn't either, not yet anyway. DW is a good, not great SS. thats it Actually one of the flaws with the KC gameplan is not solely using Berry on Heap. If you watched the game carefully they were mixing it up a lot on his coverage which was a big mistake. Heap's big play's were when a linebacker or cornerback was responsible for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Berry's performance at least sort of justifies the Whitner pick - he's showing that adding a rookie safety with a high pick can really energize your defense. The problem then switches to the Bills' inability to identify whether or not Donte was an elite safety, and not their blunder in drafting a safety at all instead of a lineman. My understanding was that, going into the 2006 draft, the two positions Marv and Jauron were most interested in addressing were SS and DT. They felt they could get a better combination of players if they went SS first and then DT, as opposed to the other way around. The fact that McCargo turned out to be a bust, and Whitner has come nowhere near living up to his draft position, illustrates the flaw with this general approach. To address your point, the Bills failed to get an elite player with their 8th overall pick in part because they went into the draft with a mentality which predisposed them to reach for perceived need. The failure of the Whitner and McCargo picks--the failure of Marv's early picks in general--illustrates the weakness of reaching for need as a strategy. Besides that, the Bills had a ton of holes after the end of their 2005 season, so a blinkered focus on just two positions was far harder to justify than would have been the case for a team with only a few holes. There are other problems with picking DBs early. One is that there have been three separate times over the last decade when the Bills DB with the best combination of youth + proven accomplishment has left via free agency, with no compensation. The first was Antoine Winfield after 2003. The Bills received just five years of his career; whereas the Vikings have (thus far) gotten seven years of his play. The next to leave was Nate Clements, which he did after the 2006 season. The third to go was Jabari Greer; who left after the 2008 season. Like Winfield, he provided the Bills with five seasons of play before moving elsewhere. Now it appears the next player out the door will be Whitner. As little as I liked (or like) the Whitner pick at 8th overall, I must admit that Whitner is currently the Bills' DB with the best combination of youth + proven accomplishment. McGee is too old (and isn't that great anyway), McKelvin is too young and has proven too little. Over the last decade, the Bills' front office has acted like good DBs are pure gold on draft day; but seems to view them as a dime a dozen once it's time to renew their rookie contracts. The front office's split personality WRT defensive backs has caused the Bills to squander an inordinate amount of early picks on DBs, while neglecting other positions. Another factor worth considering is that if your offensive line is bad enough, your entire offense is almost guaranteed to fail. The quarterback won't be able to throw because he'll always be on his back, and your running backs won't be able to produce because someone will always be there to meet them in the backfield. Conditions such as those make it hard to evaluate your talent on offense. Such conditions can also ruin a quarterback, for example with concussions. That's one of the reasons why I feel that a team which lacks both OL and DBs should try to get the OL first if possible. Needless to say, I strongly disagreed with the draft day priorities Marv and Jauron had decided upon going into the 2006 draft. (Not to mention the 2007 draft, but that's another story.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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