Why do the Bills change all O-Line positions

[tennesseeboy]

well...you know it might have been good to have worked to keep a healthy guard who knows how to play the position....someone like..oh....INCOGNITO? That way we wouldn't have had to get guys who haven't shown that they can play the positions that they were drafted for and convert them into guards.

[4BillsintheBurgh]

Wood was a center in college and Levitre a tackle -- both ar enow guards. With such a lack of talent at tackle why do we have Wang working at guard -- does that signal a move of Wood to center?

I'm thinking they don't know if Wang can stay healthy at tackle - considering his brief history here. The game could be a little fast for him out there. Maybe some time at guard will help him.

[Armchair GM]

A college team collects the biggest badest dudes they can find and depending on team needs move these guys around. A college running team requires power up the middle and speed Tackles for sweeps and protection.

 

The Pros are a different story and the over all speed of the game dictates how you use players.

 

Way to complicated to discuss in one thread.

 

Not to mention that it happens on EVERY single team in the league. Why do you guys constantly reach for things to B word and moan about!?

[BuffaloBillsMagic1]

I think our scouts do this to make it seem like they know more than other evaulators and if they get one out of 10 right they look like "geniuses" to RW. Wood should be the C on this team like Mangold is to the Jets. No reason to move him to guard whatsoever. Hartencrapper sucks.

[DanInUticaTampa]

I think our scouts do this to make it seem like they know more than other evaulators and if they get one out of 10 right they look like "geniuses" to RW. Wood should be the C on this team like Mangold is to the Jets. No reason to move him to guard whatsoever. Hartencrapper sucks.

 

Most Evaluaters were the ones calling Wood a guard.

[BillsPhan]

I find it rather odd that the Bills, great talent evaluaters that they have become, find it necessary to draft a collect O-lineman who excelled at one position in college and make them play somewhere else with the Bills. Wood was a center, guard witht he Bills, Levitre was a tackle, guard with the Bills, Wang a tackle now practicing at guard. I'm guessing had we drafted Mangold we would have made him a guard. It makes no sense to me.

 

Great observation!

 

Along with making rookies play different positions then they excelled at in college, Nix also seemed to go out of his way to draft players from small unknown colleges. Terrell Troup and Alex Carrington spring to mind. Not many NFL teams use their 2nd and 3rd draft choices - both - on small college players, but the GM from the Buffalo Bills sure did. And what greatness did he and his Modrak - led team of scouts mine from those two players that the teams choosing ahead of the Bills miss out on? Troup plays invisible when he plays at all, and Carrington doesn't play....at all. Seems to me, in today's NFL, with all the money these rookies are demanding, you should get more out of your 2nd and 3rd round picks.

 

And I love what they did with Arthur Moats. Another player from a small college...of course. But the guy at least had some amazing pass rushing numbers from his DE position down there, and he may have added a spark from the edge considering how pathetic the Bills DE's and OLB's are. Naturally, Gailey and Edwards instead forced him to switch to an INSIDE linebacker, a position he never even played at his small college!! From day one of mini camps all the way up until a couple of weeks ago, this kid was wasted trying to take on centers and guards and learn how to play ILB at the NFL level, until somehow a "light bulb" went off in Edwards' mind and he decided to put Moats back on the outside. Wow, what a freakin' ingenious revelation, huh?? And as with Buffalo Bills luck these past 10 plus years would have it, Moats gets injured early in his first game playing OLB, or DE, wherever he lined up on the outside.

 

Truly amazing, and, only in Buffalo.

[sllib olaffub]

It's a mystery as to why Wood is not being made our center for the next 10 years. I see him as Kent Hull 2.0.

 

I'm with you there. I haven't been anywhere near as satisfied with Hangartner as others have been, and I was initially happy with the signing. It does look like the staff is considering it, what with all the moves behind Levitre and Wood they're making at the Guard position. I think they really want Wood at Center - as do I. I think, also, if we can find a decent Guard to replace Wood, we could keep Hangartner as primary backup - he'd make a good backup center/guard - and switch Bell to RT. That would allow us to pursue an excellent LT, assuming we have Wood's replacement somewhere now on the team. Or, we keep Bell at LT and look for a really solid RT.

Either way, I think Gailey will be certain to have a good O-line next year - I'm sure of it. His forte is Offense, and without a decent line he will look like an incompetent joke.

 

Great observation!

 

Along with making rookies play different positions then they excelled at in college, Nix also seemed to go out of his way to draft players from small unknown colleges. Terrell Troup and Alex Carrington spring to mind. Not many NFL teams use their 2nd and 3rd draft choices - both - on small college players, but the GM from the Buffalo Bills sure did. And what greatness did he and his Modrak - led team of scouts mine from those two players that the teams choosing ahead of the Bills miss out on? Troup plays invisible when he plays at all, and Carrington doesn't play....at all. Seems to me, in today's NFL, with all the money these rookies are demanding, you should get more out of your 2nd and 3rd round picks.

 

And I love what they did with Arthur Moats. Another player from a small college...of course. But the guy at least had some amazing pass rushing numbers from his DE position down there, and he may have added a spark from the edge considering how pathetic the Bills DE's and OLB's are. Naturally, Gailey and Edwards instead forced him to switch to an INSIDE linebacker, a position he never even played at his small college!! From day one of mini camps all the way up until a couple of weeks ago, this kid was wasted trying to take on centers and guards and learn how to play ILB at the NFL level, until somehow a "light bulb" went off in Edwards' mind and he decided to put Moats back on the outside. Wow, what a freakin' ingenious revelation, huh?? And as with Buffalo Bills luck these past 10 plus years would have it, Moats gets injured early in his first game playing OLB, or DE, wherever he lined up on the outside.

 

Truly amazing, and, only in Buffalo.

 

You know, I've mentioned this a few times on various posts - but it looks to me like the Bills coaching staff is losing on purpose this year - Yeah, I know how hard it is to even consider, and I know all the arguments against the idea. Still, I just see them looking at what they inherited, not being able to get key F.A.'s, and knowing that if they're going to depend on drafting a star QB and a few other positions, they'll need really high picks.

 

So, they can't just go out and throw the game. But, what they can do is keep young guys with a lot of potential on the bench (Carrington, Brohm, Spiller) and next year they'll have Carrington - who could be good, along with guys like Batton at OLB - who also could be decent there (I think I remember reading he was quicker than even Maybin off the snap), Marcus Easley. We haven't seen Sean Nelson.

I really think they are content letting this year be an evaluation year - Tough Medicine, so to speak - and getting their highly coveted QB. Next year we'll have a star-in-the-making QB, a revamped O-line, Easley and Nelson to add to the guys we already have, not to mention Jackson and Spiller, and probably another WR.

I wouldn't be surprised if that offense is pretty good next year, guys. There's hope.

Edited October 19, 2010 by sllib olaffub