Nirvjam Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 To keep our slim playoff chances going... Bills over Miami (Duh....) Houston over Jets (Although a Jet win would not be catastrophic for our wildcard chances, and does keep Houston from going 6-6. But a Jets loss is definitely preferred as their schedule gets very tough thereafter, and they could lose quite a few more.) Cincinnati over Baltimore (At 7-4, Baltimore needs to start losing as they hold the head-to-head over us. We can take care of Cincy ourselves in Week 15.) Pittsburgh over Jacksonville (At 6-5, Jaguars need a few more losses as they hold head-to-head against us. Game 1 was definitely the most disappointing loss of the season. Let the Steelers keep winning so our game against them might not mean much to them.) San Diego over Denver (At 8-3, give Chargers the West. At 7-4, we need Denver to run up some losses.) Some less important games: Kansas City over Oakland. (only because Oakland holds head-to-head. The reality is that if both we and they finish 9-7, neither will, in all likelihood, make the playoffs.) Cleveland over New England (A NE loss is always good on general principles, if only for Belichek's ego. While this game doesn't directly affect our playoff chances, a few NE losses would make it more likely that Pittsburgh rests its starters in our game with them -- assuming Pitt keeps winning.) Go Bills!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman's Helmet Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Buffalo will beat Miami Houston/Jets I have no clue about. Pennington's shoulder could be fine or it could make his existing noodle arm even weaker. Cincy COULD beat Baltimore but I'm picking the Ravens. I'm taking the Jags to beat the Steelers this weekend, they need it more and are at home. No way the Browns beat the Pats. It could be that the Pats lock up the #1 by the last week and the Steelers are locked into the #2 seed so it STILL may benefit you. KC/Oakland is meaningless San Diego will beat Denver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Dont forget pitt holds the tiebreaker over NE due to H2H. So, Pitt needs to be 2 games back that last game of the season (or one game ahead), fo rthe game to be meaningless to them. Now, if they are 2 games back, its possible they will be battling for the other bye. That also means that they would be 3-2 or worse in their last 5 games, and playing them at full strength in buffalo might not be as difficult of a task as it now seems. So bottom line, Lose NE. I am not sure if pit winning or losing is the better scenario for us going forward. Of course this week vs. the jags it is the scenario we want...but im not sure that will be the case going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman's Helmet Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 You wont be saying "Lose NE" next week when we're playing Cincinnati or on Dec 26th when we play the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 You wont be saying "Lose NE" next week when we're playing Cincinnati or on Dec 26th when we play the Jets. 144250[/snapback] I will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typical TBD Guy Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 You wont be saying "Lose NE" next week when we're playing Cincinnati or on Dec 26th when we play the Jets. 144250[/snapback] For Cincy, yes we will. For Jets, you are correct. We want NE to beat the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman's Helmet Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Why would you want Cincinnati to beat us? How could that benefit you in any way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 It won't. Some just have sour grapes. BTW - I'll give anyone 10 to 1 odds on the NE/Cle game this weekend. There is NO WAY Cle beats NE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 To keep our slim playoff chances going... Bills over Miami (Duh....) Houston over Jets (Although a Jet win would not be catastrophic for our wildcard chances, and does keep Houston from going 6-6. But a Jets loss is definitely preferred as their schedule gets very tough thereafter, and they could lose quite a few more.) Cincinnati over Baltimore (At 7-4, Baltimore needs to start losing as they hold the head-to-head over us. We can take care of Cincy ourselves in Week 15.) Pittsburgh over Jacksonville (At 6-5, Jaguars need a few more losses as they hold head-to-head against us. Game 1 was definitely the most disappointing loss of the season. Let the Steelers keep winning so our game against them might not mean much to them.) San Diego over Denver (At 8-3, give Chargers the West. At 7-4, we need Denver to run up some losses.) Some less important games: Kansas City over Oakland. (only because Oakland holds head-to-head. The reality is that if both we and they finish 9-7, neither will, in all likelihood, make the playoffs.) Cleveland over New England (A NE loss is always good on general principles, if only for Belichek's ego. While this game doesn't directly affect our playoff chances, a few NE losses would make it more likely that Pittsburgh rests its starters in our game with them -- assuming Pitt keeps winning.) Go Bills!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 144157[/snapback] Good info. Thanks, N. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurtGodel77 Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 A Cincy win over NE would help us, because it would secure home field advantage for Pittsburgh before the final game of the season. We play Cincy ourselves, so we could help them with their loss column and give ourselves the head-to-head tiebreaker at the same time. In fact, we need to win that game if there is to be any hope at all of making the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurtGodel77 Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 The only time between now and the end of the season when I'll be rooting for the Patriots will be when they play the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarthur31 Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 I read somewhere that if we end up tying the Jests, we would have the breaker due to our better conference record. We can only hope if they are the 6th spot for the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typical TBD Guy Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 I read somewhere that if we end up tying the Jests, we would have the breaker due to our better conference record. We can only hope if they are the 6th spot for the playoffs. 145412[/snapback] That's only if their 9th and 10th wins come against the Rams and Seahawks and not against a single AFC team. In other words, they have to finish no better than this: L Houston L @ Pitt W Seattle L NE W @ St. Louis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarthur31 Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Yea. We have 1 more AFC game than they do. Like I said, all we have to do is tie them and we have the breaker over them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typical TBD Guy Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Yea. We have 1 more AFC game than they do. Like I said, all we have to do is tie them and we have the breaker over them. 145428[/snapback] Wrong. If the Bills go 10-6, they will have a 6-6 AFC record, 3-3 AFC East record, and 1-1 Jets record. If the Jets go 10-6, they could still have as high as an 8-4 AFC record, 4-2 AFC East record, and 1-1 Bills record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Great work Bro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOOOOOO Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Wrong. If the Bills go 10-6, they will have a 6-6 AFC record, 3-3 AFC East record, and 1-1 Jets record. If the Jets go 10-6, they could still have as high as an 8-4 AFC record, 4-2 AFC East record, and 1-1 Bills record. 145435[/snapback] If the Jets go 4-2 in division, that means they beat NE and if they beat NE then most likely they go 11-5 so it wont matter.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typical TBD Guy Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 If the Jets go 4-2 in division, that means they beat NE and if they beat NE then most likely they go 11-5 so it wont matter.... 145459[/snapback] OK, but my point was purely mathematical. If the Jets DO go 10-6, then our only chance with them in a 10-6 tiebreaker is if their 2 wins over the next 5 games are against the Rams and Seahawks. Otherwise, their AFC record will be better than ours...thus they win the tiebreaker over us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Wrong. If the Bills go 10-6, they will have a 6-6 AFC record, 3-3 AFC East record, and 1-1 Jets record. If the Jets go 10-6, they could still have as high as an 8-4 AFC record, 4-2 AFC East record, and 1-1 Bills record. 145435[/snapback] See Kzoo Mike post. If we tie the Jets, and they lose to NE, common opponents is the tie-breaker before conference record. We would likely beat the Jet son that tie-breaker. NE MUST BEAT THE JETS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typical TBD Guy Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 common opponents is the tie-breaker before conference record. 145473[/snapback] Oh, it is? Then my apologies to everyone... Here's where the Jets and Bills schedules differ: Bills: Jags (L), Raiders (L) Jets: Bolts (W), Houston (TBD...) Interesting. So that means, assuming the Bills finish 10-6, that the following 4 of 5 scenarios need to happen in order to make the playoffs: A. Jets lose at least 4, any 4, OR lose to the Patriots and any 2 other games B. Ravens lose at least 3, any 3 C. Broncos lose at least 3, any 3 D. Jags lose at least 2, any 2 E. Texans lose at least 1, any 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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