sharper802 Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 what happened against new england was not leodis' fault, it was the fault of the coaching staff. when he was going out on the field coach jauron should have said "you catch that ball in the endzone, boy you take a knee" but i guarantee he didnt. that is poor coaching, jauron coaching, 3 exrta losses a year coaching, fired coaching. You guys still don't get it. It was the right decision to bring it out. Very good chance the run back gets you past the two minute warning and then it is three kneel downs and game over. He holds onto the ball and DJ probably still has a job. Well maybe not with AVP as OC. Hopefully Leodis, Byrd, Lil Donte, Wilson, Florence, McGee and Corner get enough pass rush from the front seven to show off their skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Every year I pick a player who is an unknown or underdog, someone who rises above expectations and takes it to the next level. I started out with Jabari Greer a few years back whom despite my original expectations went on to do very well in the NFL, last year it was TE, Jonathan Stupar. This year I'm back to the CB position and with a young fella that is not an underdog or an unknown but was the Buffalo Bills first round draft pick, drafted 11th overall in the 2008 NFL Draft, Leodis Mckelvin. On September 14, 2009, in the opening game of Monday Night Football, McKelvin caught a kickoff in his own endzone with Buffalo up 24-19 over the New England Patriots and 2:06 left in the game. He chose to return it instead of downing it and fumbled it around the 30 yard line. It was his second fumble of the game. New England drove from the 31 yard line for what turned out to be the winning touchdown. Most Bills fans know what followed, but in case some of you missed it Mckelvins home was vandalized, obscenities sprayed onto his lawn with a message, telling him to take a knee. The forgiving person that Mckelvin is, when the teenage vandals were caught Leodis refused to press charges. The fans on the other hand have not been so forgiving and Loedis Mckelvin despite developing into what in my opinion is a pro bowl caliber CB in the makings is still disliked by some Bills fans because of the costly blunder. Folks its time to forgive and forget, The one thing that DJ did right was put together one of the best groups of CB's in the NFL. With the likes of the ever so dangerous Terrence McGee and the emergence of Jairus "the Bird man" Byrd, putting the ball in the air against the Bills defense is like throwing into the teeth of a pack of hungry wolves. Leodis Mckelvin is gearing up for a breakout season in my opinion as he prepares himself to help a young and talented Buffalo Bills Football team make some serious noise in the AFC East. I Billieve... Does a moderately impressive #11 overall pick in his third season really constitute an "unknown" or an "underdog?" Kudos to at least talking about someone other than the usual suspects. You guys still don't get it. It was the right decision to bring it out. Very good chance the run back gets you past the two minute warning and then it is three kneel downs and game over. He holds onto the ball and DJ probably still has a job. Well maybe not with AVP as OC. Hopefully Leodis, Byrd, Lil Donte, Wilson, Florence, McGee and Corner get enough pass rush from the front seven to show off their skills. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. ChumChums Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 You guys still don't get it. It was the right decision to bring it out. Very good chance the run back gets you past the two minute warning and then it is three kneel downs and game over. He holds onto the ball and DJ probably still has a job. Well maybe not with AVP as OC. Hopefully Leodis, Byrd, Lil Donte, Wilson, Florence, McGee and Corner get enough pass rush from the front seven to show off their skills. Exactly. In addition, Leodis wasn't 100% sure he was ENTIRELY in the endzone, and didn't want to risk downing the ball at the 1 yard line. I remember people got pissed off at him when he said that if he had the option to do it again, he would - that's not bad football, that's him making the right decision and actually making the SAFER play, instead of risking the ball being downed at the 1 yard line. The only thing that Leodis did wrong with that was fight for extra yardage, giving the NE players an extra 2 seconds to strip the ball out - and even then, who doesn't fight for extra yards anyways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Exactly. In addition, Leodis wasn't 100% sure he was ENTIRELY in the endzone, and didn't want to risk downing the ball at the 1 yard line. I remember people got pissed off at him when he said that if he had the option to do it again, he would - that's not bad football, that's him making the right decision and actually making the SAFER play, instead of risking the ball being downed at the 1 yard line. The only thing that Leodis did wrong with that was fight for extra yardage, giving the NE players an extra 2 seconds to strip the ball out - and even then, who doesn't fight for extra yards anyways? The bold part is the issue, IMO. The coaches should have told him if you're going to run it out, go down after you get hit. Fighting for the extra yard was the stupid part, not the decision to run it out. That yard gets us nothing, and is a huge risk, low reward play. You don't fight for extra yards on a return like that. Most of the time you do. This time, however, it was pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 The bold part is the issue, IMO. The coaches should have told him if you're going to run it out, go down after you get hit. Fighting for the extra yard was the stupid part, not the decision to run it out. That yard gets us nothing, and is a huge risk, low reward play. You don't fight for extra yards on a return like that. Most of the time you do. This time, however, it was pointless. It was my biggest beef, if Mckelvin just protects the ball better and goes down we wouldn't even be having this discussion. I suppose its also possible DJ could still be HC of the Buffalo Bills If we go on to win that game and TE probably wouldn't be fighting to keep his job. Beating the Patriots on opening day would have stood for something and it was so close you could almost taste it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 You guys still don't get it. It was the right decision to bring it out. Very good chance the run back gets you past the two minute warning and then it is three kneel downs and game over. He holds onto the ball and DJ probably still has a job. Well maybe not with AVP as OC. Hopefully Leodis, Byrd, Lil Donte, Wilson, Florence, McGee and Corner get enough pass rush from the front seven to show off their skills. Agreed. The fault wasn't coming out, it was FUMBLING THE DAMN BALL! Okay, I'm better. Leodis is a great talent and he's moved on from that fumble with class and so should we. You can't beat up Jauron for playing not to lose and then beat him up for trying to win a game with his best returner. DJ was a bad coach but not every thing he did was wrong. Bottom line, the return guy fumbled at the worst possible time in what would have been our biggest victory of the year. It's on Leodis and he accepted that and he'll be the better for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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