Pirate Angel Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Now I'm probably going to get booed off this board for posting this, but I'm reminded of Jim Carrey's line from "Dumb and Dumber" ... 'so you're saying there's a chance!' Buffalo can still win the AFC East, and while it would require a total meltdown from New England, it wouldn't be unheard of - remember San Diego won the West last year with an 8-8 record, and then beat the Colts in the first round of the playoffs. Buffalo's playoff possibilities: 1. Buffalo needs to win out (New England, at Atlanta, Indianapolis) 2. New England needs to lose out (at Buffalo, Jacksonville, at Houston) 3. Miami must lose out (at Tennessee, Houston, Pittsburgh) 4. New York cannot win more than one game (Atlanta, at Indianapolis, Cincinnati) That would put Buffalo and New England at 8-8 and Miami and New York at 7-9. According to this Yahoo! scenario generator, that gives Buffalo the division. Is it likely? No. But it's possible. And as Yogi Berra once said, "it ain't over 'til it's over." I don't know about all of you but I don't quit on the playoff dreams until Buffalo is mathematically eliminated. However, Buffalo cannot win a Wild Card because it is impossible that all the 7-6 teams lose out because they play one another. Plus, Buffalo does not own the tiebreaker over Jacksonville (the current #6 seed) due to the 18-15 loss on November 22. Jacksonville plays New England, so one of those teams will win - whichever team wins that game basically eliminates Buffalo from reaching that particular qualifier, whether it be the East or the Wild Card. If the Bills beat the Patriots this week, root for the Jaguars next week. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/playoffscenari...amp;16=00044000 It they say this is another meaningless december Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsf101 Posted December 15, 2009 Author Share Posted December 15, 2009 UPDATE - The Bills CANNOT win a Wild Card, and here's why ... their conference record sucks. At best, the Bills finish 5-7 in their conference, which would include wins over New England and Indianapolis to end the season. If Baltimore loses out, they are 7-9, and wouldn't be better than Buffalo's 8-8. If Miami loses out, they are 7-9, and wouldn't be better than Buffalo's 8-8. However, for both of those to occur, Baltimore and Miami would both have to lose to Pittsburgh, which would put the Steelers at a minimum of 8-8. I thought Buffalo would win the tiebreaker over Pittsburgh, but they wouldn't, as Buffalo's conference record would be 5-7 and Pittsburgh's would be 6-6. If Baltimore beats Pittsburgh and then lose the other two to go to 8-8, their conference record would be 7-5, better than Buffalo's 5-7. If Miami beats Pittsburgh and the lose the other two to go to 8-8, their division record would be 4-2, better than Buffalo's 3-3. So after all that explanation earlier, when I finally crunched the numbers - I learned the truth. Buffalo can only win the AFC East and not a Wild Card, after all. If New England, Miami and New York all lose out, and Buffalo wins out - Buffalo and New England would be 8-8, Miami and New York would be 7-9. However, the Jets could finish at 8-8, and would then lose on the division record tiebreaker (2-4 compared to Buffalo and New England's 3-3). Tiebreakers used to split Buffalo and New England would be: head-to-head (would be 1-1), division record (both would be 3-3), best record in common games (both would be 6-6), conference record (both would be 5-7), strength of victory (because Buffalo beat Indianapolis, that's the highest strength of the victory), and the division would be theirs. Easier typed than done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 UPDATE - The Bills CANNOT win a Wild Card, and here's why ... their conference record sucks. At best, the Bills finish 5-7 in their conference, which would include wins over New England and Indianapolis to end the season. If Baltimore loses out, they are 7-9, and wouldn't be better than Buffalo's 8-8. If Miami loses out, they are 7-9, and wouldn't be better than Buffalo's 8-8. However, for both of those to occur, Baltimore and Miami would both have to lose to Pittsburgh, which would put the Steelers at a minimum of 8-8. I thought Buffalo would win the tiebreaker over Pittsburgh, but they wouldn't, as Buffalo's conference record would be 5-7 and Pittsburgh's would be 6-6. If Baltimore beats Pittsburgh and then lose the other two to go to 8-8, their conference record would be 7-5, better than Buffalo's 5-7. If Miami beats Pittsburgh and the lose the other two to go to 8-8, their division record would be 4-2, better than Buffalo's 3-3. So after all that explanation earlier, when I finally crunched the numbers - I learned the truth. Buffalo can only win the AFC East and not a Wild Card, after all. If New England, Miami and New York all lose out, and Buffalo wins out - Buffalo and New England would be 8-8, Miami and New York would be 7-9. However, the Jets could finish at 8-8, and would then lose on the division record tiebreaker (2-4 compared to Buffalo and New England's 3-3). Tiebreakers used to split Buffalo and New England would be: head-to-head (would be 1-1), division record (both would be 3-3), best record in common games (both would be 6-6), conference record (both would be 5-7), strength of victory (because Buffalo beat Indianapolis, that's the highest strength of the victory), and the division would be theirs. Easier typed than done. every party has its pooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3irty1 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 1. Buffalo needs to win out (New England, at Atlanta, Indianapolis) 2. New England needs to lose out (at Buffalo, Jacksonville, at Houston) 3. Miami must lose out (at Tennessee, Houston, Pittsburgh) 4. New York cannot win more than one game (Atlanta, at Indianapolis, Cincinnati) Miami and Jets losing out is highly likely. they both play 3 very tough teams. The only game that will make this possible is Buffalo vs New England. If Buffalo can beat New England than i can see them beating Atlanta, who is primarily a passing offense, and your defensive strength is your pass defense. Indy will probably rest their starters so that should be winnable too. New England seems to be collapsing lately, and with this "moss" drama, who knows? But if they lose to Buffalo, then The jags and Texans should be able to beat them as well. Unfortunately, if the stars aligned and buff did make it to the playoffs, you'd prob only make it to the first round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firemedic Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Unfortunately, Pittsburgh is flaming out and will not beat the Dolphins.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTS Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 IF If this happens, if that happened. If - It's the slogan of the decade for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Easier typed than done. However... http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/standings/playoffrace/seeds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Easier typed than done. ... or ... Look here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dib Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 If my aunt had testicles she'd be my uncle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manbeast Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Sounds good to me - if we beat New England this weekend you never know. If we beat NE I will be content with that. If we somehow make the playoffs that would be FN amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manbeast Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Miami and Jets losing out is highly likely. they both play 3 very tough teams. The only game that will make this possible is Buffalo vs New England. If Buffalo can beat New England than i can see them beating Atlanta, who is primarily a passing offense, and your defensive strength is your pass defense. Indy will probably rest their starters so that should be winnable too. New England seems to be collapsing lately, and with this "moss" drama, who knows? But if they lose to Buffalo, then The jags and Texans should be able to beat them as well. Unfortunately, if the stars aligned and buff did make it to the playoffs, you'd prob only make it to the first round The Colts are still undefeated so unless they lose we play them at full strength but these teams all pass better than they run which doesn't mean they can't run AT has a beast in their backfield. But they will try to pass against IMO the best pass D in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clippers of Nfl Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Now I'm probably going to get booed off this board for posting this, but I'm reminded of Jim Carrey's line from "Dumb and Dumber" ... 'so you're saying there's a chance!' Buffalo can still win the AFC East, and while it would require a total meltdown from New England, it wouldn't be unheard of - remember San Diego won the West last year with an 8-8 record, and then beat the Colts in the first round of the playoffs. Buffalo's playoff possibilities: 1. Buffalo needs to win out (New England, at Atlanta, Indianapolis) 2. New England needs to lose out (at Buffalo, Jacksonville, at Houston) 3. Miami must lose out (at Tennessee, Houston, Pittsburgh) 4. New York cannot win more than one game (Atlanta, at Indianapolis, Cincinnati) http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/playoffscenari...amp;16=00044000 for one team to lose would be one thing, but damn, we need everything to go wrong with everybody and everything to go right with us. this is buffalo remember? i love my bills. but i have zero faith in them making playoffs this year. i would be content if they win 2 of next 3. our end of schedule is not easy if u look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manbeast Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Now I'm probably going to get booed off this board for posting this, but I'm reminded of Jim Carrey's line from "Dumb and Dumber" ... 'so you're saying there's a chance!' Buffalo can still win the AFC East, and while it would require a total meltdown from New England, it wouldn't be unheard of - remember San Diego won the West last year with an 8-8 record, and then beat the Colts in the first round of the playoffs. Buffalo's playoff possibilities: 1. Buffalo needs to win out (New England, at Atlanta, Indianapolis) 2. New England needs to lose out (at Buffalo, Jacksonville, at Houston) 3. Miami must lose out (at Tennessee, Houston, Pittsburgh) 4. New York cannot win more than one game (Atlanta, at Indianapolis, Cincinnati) That would put Buffalo and New England at 8-8 and Miami and New York at 7-9. According to this Yahoo! scenario generator, that gives Buffalo the division. Is it likely? No. But it's possible. And as Yogi Berra once said, "it ain't over 'til it's over." I don't know about all of you but I don't quit on the playoff dreams until Buffalo is mathematically eliminated. However, Buffalo cannot win a Wild Card because it is impossible that all the 7-6 teams lose out because they play one another. Plus, Buffalo does not own the tiebreaker over Jacksonville (the current #6 seed) due to the 18-15 loss on November 22. Jacksonville plays New England, so one of those teams will win - whichever team wins that game basically eliminates Buffalo from reaching that particular qualifier, whether it be the East or the Wild Card. If the Bills beat the Patriots this week, root for the Jaguars next week. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/playoffscenari...amp;16=00044000 Please don't get our hopes up, This all depends on what they mean by strength of victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clippers of Nfl Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Well, in that case... 12 and 8 baby!!! GO BILLSSS!!!! REVERSE THE CURSE!!!!! i love your positive attitude senator! its funny how it goes from 19-0 to 18-1 17-2 16-3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 The Colts are going to come in to THE RALPH all hopped up trying to sport THE PERFECT SEASON. They WILL play their starters... they WILL lay it all on the line. The game is close! Fitzpatrick is dueling Manning... neither one will blink! ZOWIE!!!! The game is tied! The final score from New England goes up on the jumbotron... the Pats lost, to finish 8-8! The division could be ours! 15 seconds left (Colts have 1 timeout to set up the FG) and Manning is driving the Colts for the win! From the Bills 48 yard line he takes that snap... and we get that sinking feeling in our gut. "No... not like this... not again..." He has Dallas Clark streaking down the seam... Manning hoists the ball into the air... Byrd flies in out of nowhere, and picks it off! Then he returns it for a TD! Clock reads 0:00! He begins to do his patented Bird Dance and the crowd goes ape shiznat! The P.A. comes on "STAND AND CHEER YOUR AFC EAST CHAMPION BUFFALO BILLS!!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 In five more days, posts like this will no longer be written. Until Week 14 of 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 In five more days, posts like this will no longer be written. Until Week 14 of 2010. This is the anthem, throw all your hands up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Greatest drummer of all time. oh and ya, we have a shot at making the playoffs. Maybe #2 behind Neil Peart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 The Colts are going to come in to THE RALPH all hopped up trying to sport THE PERFECT SEASON. They WILL play their starters... they WILL lay it all on the line. The game is close! Fitzpatrick is dueling Manning... neither one will blink! ZOWIE!!!! The game is tied! The final score from New England goes up on the jumbotron... the Pats lost, to finish 8-8! The division could be ours! 15 seconds left (Colts have 1 timeout to set up the FG) and Manning is driving the Colts for the win! From the Bills 48 yard line he takes that snap... and we get that sinking feeling in our gut. "No... not like this... not again..." He has Dallas Clark streaking down the seam... Manning hoists the ball into the air... Byrd flies in out of nowhere, and picks it off! Then he returns it for a TD! Clock reads 0:00! He begins to do his patented Bird Dance and the crowd goes ape shiznat! The P.A. comes on "STAND AND CHEER YOUR AFC EAST CHAMPION BUFFALO BILLS!!!!" Then there is a flag for Pass Interference, the Bills hold. Fitz throws just another in a long line of terrible decision throws that gets picked off and ran back. Bills Lose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Then there is a flag for Pass Interference, the Bills hold. Fitz throws just another in a long line of terrible decision throws that gets picked off and ran back. Bills Lose! Ain't Fitz sweet? He's got that competition beat! Now we ask you very confidentially, ain't Fitz sweet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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