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    Game Week thread - Bills at Jets

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    1 hour ago, PaattMaann said:

    Josh Allen has struggled against the Jets defense. This isn't that Jets defense anymore. They have about 3/4 new players and an entirely different scheme. I am not saying he WON'T struggle, im just saying we can't base predictions based on previous performance against this defense. 

    Can you describe the new scheme?

    Game Week thread - Bills at Jets

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    1 hour ago, Johnnycage46 said:

     

    I'm quite sure McDermott's approach isn't what transpired. The players still need to play well, regardless of the approach. It was week 1, we DO have some undersized players on D, and the Ravens ARE a great team. We were always going to give up points and yards to the Ravens. We just were. Sure, lots of the D didn't play well, but again, I don't think it's because McDermott had a bad plan.

    Maybe not. The Athletic has some film analysis of three or four defensive breakdowns, and in at least some of them the Bills players were in position to make the tackle but just didn't. DeQuan played like he didn't have arms, Rousseau got knocked down at least once, Sanders was walled off or slow off the snap, Rapp was just slow period, Bernard and Milano kept running the wrong way or got blocked, and Bishop, well... Only Oliver, Bosa, and Benford appeared to play well (based on this and a few other analyses I saw), while Dorian Strong held his own for the most part. 

     

    If all this is fair, maybe you're right we can't blame McDermott's approach. Maybe this was just a truly bad performance of a good defense, or a predictably performance of a mediocre defense against an excellent offense. I would opt for the latter, with the proviso that the young players should improve. 

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    35 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

    Last time I checked, we are quite good at doing both. 

    You're ok with a speedbump defense and ball-control offense asking Allen to produce with less than 1% odds of succeeding? I mean, that's what happened Sunday, right? Allen and co. bailed the team out despite McDermott's approach to the game, not because of it. 

    Nearly three days after that instant classic I have further thoughts…

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    Thanks for the fresh thread. Upon reflection (and endless, happy viewings of the highlights), I'm even more impressed by Oliver. The big sack, the stuff of Henry, the huge hit on Lamar... He looked like Aaron Donald out there. And I agree about the tone this comeback sets for the team, both the rookies and veterans like Bosa and Palmer. Wow, could there be a better motivator to work even harder than a win like that? It must be electrifying. And talk about boosting resilience! Who is going to be giving up in the tough games ahead when the team is down in the fourth quarter? 

    Well, another worthless stat..total QBR

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    12 minutes ago, MJS said:

    Now, QBR I think IS flawed. I never use it. It only works for quarterbacks who don't rush very much. And ESPN doesn't even tell us exactly how they calculate it. It apparently uses EPA, but the exact methodology it proprietary.

    Yes, good points. That would habe increased his TD percentage. QBR is different from passer rating, though, just FYI. QBR is on a 100 point scale while passer rating goes up to 158.3.

    Pretty impressive that he didn't win a single route but was still open on a number of plays and had over 100 yards and a score. How do they even determine this? Just insane.

    I wonder if the Beane and Brady (I don't credit McDermott) are on the cutting edge of offensive innovation in this respect. You pass on an extremely fast but small receiver who can presumably get loads of separation for a big, strong guy who can't separate to save his life but can leap through the ceiling and box out like an NBA center. For example, how do you defend that high pass to Coleman in the fourth quarter? Yet he's not just a tight end: he's athletic and has moves, like that stop-go step that broke Jaire Alexander's ankles. 

     

    Separation isn't everything. 

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    Game Week thread - Bills at Jets

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    8 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

     

    My main offensive complaint with McDermott's post-Daboll approach is that he seems to prefer CONTROLLING the game in the first half, rather than WINNING it. He could help his poopy defense so much by just unleashing Allen early and often. Then they could run more and lean on teams with a lead in hand, if he insists.

     

    I see your point. But there's a reason why the Red Sea opened up for Allen in the fourth quarter, besides his inherent greatness: the defense was exhausted from defending the run. (TOP was 34:49-25-11.) Instead of a fast-paced shootout, McDermott evidently planned for the Bills D to be at least a speed bump (e.g., Henry had to slow down to stiff-arm Bishop into the turf /s) while the constant grinding on offense depleted their defense. 

     

    But McDermott's brilliant strategy gave his team a 1% to win at the end, so you're dead right and he was dead wrong. Just because Allen bailed him out doesn't mean he shouldn't be held accountable. 

     

    Can we get a new head coach, please? He's using his Maserati of a quarterback to drop off the recyclables and pick up the kids. 

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    Well, another worthless stat..total QBR

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    4 minutes ago, MJS said:

    Jackson had a really high yards per attempt at 11.0. Josh Allen's was 8.6. Jackson also had a higher completion percentage. That is why his score is a lot higher. Also, he scored as many passing TDs as Allen, but with far fewer attempts.

     

    Passer rating isn't a measure of the quality or production of passing. It is a measure of the efficiency of the passing. It measures completion percentage, yards per attempt, touchdown percentage, and interception percentage.

     

    It's a perfectly good measure of a QB. It isn't flawed or antiquated. It means what it means and it doesn't mean anything else. It should be taken into consideration with other stats to understand the performance of the QB. Lamar Jackson was indeed a much more efficient passer than Josh Allen in week 1. He produced what he did with far fewer passes than Allen, so his efficiency score is higher even if his production wasn't.

    Good point. It's just a metric, useful as long as clear what it's measuring. Same with QBR and EPA. (As I recall, Lamar is higher than Allen in QBR, too, but lower in EPA.)

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    Game Week thread - Bills at Jets

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    1 hour ago, Steptide said:

    I know lots of people dont love Romo, but personally they're my favorite 

    Romo used to be one of my favorites, but now he's less articulate, more liable to ramble and lapse into platitudes and superlatives instead of sticking to analysis. 

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    Bring on the Jets

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    On 9/8/2025 at 12:25 AM, BuffaloBillyG said:

    One of my favorites. He was a menace. And playing him next to Kelso, who looked like a 12 year old choir boy was quite the contrast...lol

    Kelso with the kazoo helmet!

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    Did Harbaugh Call Timeout Too Quickly?

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    1 hour ago, Last Guy on the Bench said:

    Heard an interesting point from a Dolphins fan (I was watching a reaction video and enjoying their crushing disbelief). At the end of the game, when the Bills were just downing it, forcing the Ravens to use up their timeouts so the Bills could kick with no time left, Harbaugh could have forced them into more of a scramble drill. After the 2nd Down knee, Harbaugh uses his last timeout right away at 32 seconds. The Bills can now down it one more time and than have a relatively leisurely half minute to get the kicking team out there, which is what happened. Instead, Harbaugh could have let the clock run down a bit to maybe 15 seconds or so. Then the Bills have much less time after the knee to get the field goal team in place. They could still do it, but it would be rushed.

     

    In fact, he could have caused quite a panic even before that - the Bills are expecting the timeout there, but was the FG team ready to run on if Harbaugh didn't call time out at all? If he just let the clock run. Even if they do react well and run out there in good order while the clock is ticking, Harbaugh can still call his time out with enough on the clock that they don't want to kick on third down, so they have to go through the condensed knee/switch units deal. Maybe they decide to just kick on third down with 15 seconds left, rather than risk it, but then the Ravens at least get a kickoff and Hail Mary.

     

    Anyway, thought that was interesting, from a very depressed Dolphins fan. Sorry if this was already discussed. I tried to read everything, but may have missed it.

    Tell me more about depressed Dolphins fans. 😁

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    Ideas at Safety?

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    5 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

    Running at a freight train from the side and expecting to stop it doesn’t have great odds.  You have picked out the guy you want to rag on all year.  Enjoy.

    I respect your first sentence. I don't respect your second, which puts you squarely in the ever-charming "If someone disagrees with me, I must insult them" camp. 

     

    Don't bother to reply. I prefer substance to malice. 

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    Is Our WR Corps Good?

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    1 hour ago, Starr Almighty said:

    I said that the Bills are a good team so they took advantage of it. That would imply that they also adjusted. But the Ravens went into a soft Cover 2 and put Alexander out there more than earlier in the game. I hope you didn't take this as me saying something negative about the Bills. 

    Not at all. I was being totally earnest and asking questions I was interested in, no snark at all. (And I'm not one of those posters who view any criticism of the Bills as disloyalty or worse.)

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    Ideas at Safety?

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    2 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

    I absolutely do.  Being able take Henry on head to head is way different than trying to grab him from the side when he’s running with a full head of steam.

     

    Bishop clearly has room to improve, as most second year guys do, but it seems he is going to be the guy singled out by the fans this year for criticism.  That is a tradition that goes back to 1960; find a punching bag and beat on it.  From Richie Lucas through Bishop, including guys like Kelsey, Edmunds, Jeff Wright, and many others, it’s a time honored tradition.

    Your list suggests the tradition had (and has) good cause. The film on how Bishop missed that tackle should be a "What not to do" teaching tool. I'm sure Bishop would agree. 

    Ideas at Safety?

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    25 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

    Look at the angle this guy has vs. the angle Bishop had.  You’ve given us a classic example of over the top criticism.

    I hardly think it's over the top. You really think no safety in the league has a chance to tackle Henry from that angle? That's giving Henry an awful lot of credit, and takes Bishop off the hook for a truly lame attempt. Yes, it's a tough tackle, but his job is to tackle, not flail and end up on the ground. 

    I don't EVER want to hear ANYONE say that Lamar is better than Josh Allen EVER AGAIN!!

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    9 hours ago, Special K said:

     

    Or, take Henry off the Ravens, and Lamar would look average at best.

    I don't know about average, but you would think more Lamar boosters would acknowledge that it makes at least a little difference to have a generational running back on your team, maybe handicap his MVP hype just a bit. Put it this way: Can you imagine Allen and Henry on the same team? 

    Is Our WR Corps Good?

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    8 hours ago, Starr Almighty said:

    For some unknown reason The Ravens started playing soft with the 15 point lead and the Bills are a good team and took full advantage of it

    Was it the Ravens playing soft or adjustments by the Bills? Could it be as simple as Brady not calling run plays and short passes, or the receivers deciding to get open, or Allen hitting the small windows he wasn't trying earlier? Looking forward to the analysis. 

    Ideas at Safety?

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    2 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

    This is 100% where Im at.

     

    We brought in a more athletic safety in Bishop, let him groe/see if he turns into something.  

     

    But man, Rapp looked like he lost a step and he was already a slower player.

     

    It's also just week 1 vs the most dynamic offense in AFC.  But it didnt look good at all with our pursuit angles/ability to tackle.

    Yes, Rapp looked as slow as Hamlin looked last year, like he was running in mud. Bishop has the speed, just not anything else. That lame tackle attempt against Henry, who didn't stiff-arm him as much as lazily wave in his direction, was embarrassing. Will he grow into the job? I want to optimistic, since he's young and athletic, but he had a private tutor all last year as well as the offseason to learn, and he still did worse than Dorian Strong performed as a rookie sixth-round pick. Still early, but he's got to turn it around soon.

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