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On 12/4/2025 at 11:44 AM, T.E. said:
They are clearly the best team in the AFC right now. The Bills' brass should take the Pats' inevitable AFC East championship as a lesson on what happens when you willfully choose to remain stagnant while your opponents try to improve.
I don't think that's right. I saw a chart--will post it if I can find it again--that shows the Pats as one of three teams whose EPA is far lower than its win-loss record indicates it should be, compared to other teams. In other words, they're not as good as their record, much like KC last year. That doesn't mean they can't continue the good play and stupid luck (e.g., playing the Bengals without Burrow or Chase, playing the Bills after their bye), but they very well fall flat on their face. If I'm walking by, I won't avoid stepping on them, either. You live in New England, you either love or despise the Patriots.
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On 11/8/2025 at 11:14 AM, Alphadawg7 said:
PS: Keon has gotten open a LOT more than people think. In fact, a lot of our targets have when people have thought "no one is open". Quite frankly both Brady and Allen have not been great in parts of this season, and a lot of missed opportunities have been left on the field. Whether it be Allen checked down too soon, Allen had happy feet, Allen took a short safe throw (usually by design), etc. Doesn't mean Keon is playing well enough, but if we want to get him going, there have been more opportunities there to do so that we have not executed on too.
A receiver being "open" is not as simple as it appears. It's not enough to "be open" at some point; you have to be open when the quarterback is looking your way. Very often, Allen appears to be looking at Coleman, even waiting for him, then turning to his next read because Coleman is glued to the receiver or not looking back (or both). In those cases, it doesn't help if Coleman breaks free two beats later because Allen has already made his decision. That's why timing and being in synch with your quarterback is so critical. Remember all those back-shoulder throws to Diggs that were virtually impossible to defend? Allen threw half a dozen of them to Coleman early in the season, and I think he caught just one. The other times he wasn't looking back, hadn't made his break, allowed the DB to make the play, or dropped the ball.
The only thing I've seen Coleman to well is climb the ladder for the ball. Throw it way above his head and he'll go get it. Route-running, slants, comeback routes, even jump balls with DBs, he's at best mediocre. Blocks ok, I'll give him that. And sometimes--not usually--he can get open on fire drills.
I'm not giving up on him because who knows? But he has an awful lot of work to do.
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2 hours ago, boater said:
I will say the same -- if -- the Bills beat the Bengals.
If the Bills lose to the Bengals, it's because they are not playoff material. Specifically, it is not a playoff roster.
This is why I'm at peace with this game, instead of feeling anxious or confident or resigned. If they lose, it will confirm that this just wasn't their year; even with they squeak into the playoffs, I'll know it's just a matter of time before they're beat, since a Super Bowl team does not lose to Cincinnati at home with this much at stake. Resignation, in short. If they win? Well, I go back to the twin peaks of anxiety and confidence. But for now, I'm just plain curious.
Ah, the life of a fan!
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1 hour ago, transient said:
Bills gonna claim every S and CB to hit the waiver wire now just to #### with the Eagles.
You forgot wide receiver. Beane must be sleeping next to the waiver wire.
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1 hour ago, Slippery Rubber Mats said:
I'll miss Whositnamenow, he was pretty good/bad idk I can;t even remember his name
Oh, come on. Whatshisname has been here for ages! At least since that other guy (forgot his name) drafted ahead of him out of that college somewhere in the Midwest. (Or was it the Southwest?) Now that he's gone, we'll miss him every day, good old... whathisname.
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31 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
are we quiet benching bernard or is that real injury
either way good call
Might go the way of Rapp and Bass in the end.
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22 minutes ago, balln said:
Or god forbid. We line up Keon in slot and let him try and eat over the middle for JFC sake
Forgive my ignorance on the subject, but why not turn him into a tight end or H-back? He would have to put on at least 15 pounds, and take some blocking lessons, but he's certainly not doing anything at the WR position. With Kincaid turning out to be made of bamboo sticks and glue, we could use someone who could block effectively and slip out for some RAC.
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My fear is they'll rush four as usual, giving Burrow all the time he wants in the pocket waiting for one of the best WR corps in the league to get open against Poyer, White, and Taron, none of whom can cover for long anymore.
My hope is that they regularly blitz Dorian or Bishop, both of who can get home, so that Burrow has to unload quickly, and use Hairston's speed to help shut down Chase, and (no choice) take their chances with Higgins. They'll adjust, but so can the Bills, maybe with a full suite of unpredictable blitzes.
Whether they win or lose, I can see us all seeing the outcome a part of pattern we've seen all season.
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5 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:
I wish we did add more at WR, I'll make that clear. But I think there HAS to be balance to win championships in the NFL. Even looking back at the kelly bills, when another team was able to run the ball it screws everything up. Fewer possessions and more of a sense of urgency because of the lack of possession time. I don't think that means we need to run the ball constantly, I just mean I don't want to build a team around 2 WRs and 1QB if that makes any sense?
To your 2nd point about what if burrow carves buffalo up? The entire offense would need to play amazing to win in that scenario. If Buffalo puts close to 200 on the ground against you, even incompletions or penalties, or sacks can become game killing plays because a running team squeezes the clock. We'll see how it plays out! I think on the road it's difficult to just say we're going to dictate, not to mention very different personnel on both sides - namely hopefully less playing time for dane Jackson and kaiir elam.
Agreed on all counts. If ever there was a game we need inclement weather, this is it. Wind, heavy snow, freezing temperatures.... anything to stop the Burrow to Chase/Higgins pitch and catch show and allow us to grind it out. Otherwise, with no pass rush to worry about, Burrow might have a field day, even against an improving secondary.
Just checked: Looks like light snow with no wind. Oh, well.
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50 minutes ago, BearNorth said:
I actually have a hammer that has screwdrivers that store in the hollow handle. Got it for Christmas one year.
Who gave it to you? That's the key question. 😉
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6 minutes ago, chris heff said:
Yeah, Ingram has been so great that that last year in the playoffs, when Benford was injured, they went with Elam over Ingram.
I was about to make the same point. If Elam > Ingram, and Ingram > Dane Jackson, we're in trouble if one of the top three CBs go down.
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3 minutes ago, wagne591 said:
No top end WR free agent is going to want to come here to run block all the time because that is not what they want to do. They want the ball to make plays not to block.
They might realize the Bills wide receivers mostly block because it's pretty much all they're capable of doing. You don't use a hammer as a screwdriver unless you have to.
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31 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:
172 yards on the ground was cincys 2nd highest total of the year. Buffalo also had more penalties and lost in time of possession by about 8 minutes.
Fact is dorsey was gone midway through the next season because he would fall into bad pass heavy habits. Frazier was literally fired for this game plan.
As for their defense bottling up buffalo -
Reader gone
Bates gone
Pratt gone
Wilson gone
Hilton gone
Hubbard gone
Hendrickson out
Hasn't been that long but teams change pretty quickly in the NFL.
Of all these, I'm most glad Reader is gone, along with Anarumo. Both of them had our number. Without having to face them, I don't see why the Bills wouldn't plan another Pittsburgh job. I mean, the Bengals are giving up 160 ydg rushing, the worst in the league. It's not brain science, especially with the incentive to keep an explosive offense off the field. (Imagine Allen throwing to Chase and Higgins instead of the cast of Gilligan's Island. Now THAT would be an explosive offensive.)
The hard part will be to keep the run game going if Burrows quickly scores TDs on every possession. What a weird game that would be: lightning drive/plodding drive, lightning drive/plodding drive.
BEANE! Couldn't you have found Allen even ONE wide receiver?
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20 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:
It's past the point worrying about every little thing.
Injuries are what they are.
We will find out tomorrow.
Have to win this game against the Bengals.
Go Bills.
Injuries piling up for us, clean bill of health for the Bengals, a flag-happy referee crew, Ingram lost for nothing... the "little things" are adding up fast.
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44 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:
Tre, Bishop, Benford, and Lewis have completion percentages under 60% this season, Hairston is under 50%.
How about Taron? My sense is that Taron and Bernard aren't carrying their weight out there, and most everyone else is. (Not sure about Milano.)
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19 hours ago, harryS said:
The division seems like an extreme longshot so I agree with OP.
We're not going to win 3 consecutive road games to make the Super Bowl. The only way we can play a home game as a wild card is if KC is in the playoffs with us taking out higher seeds so Buffalo can host an AFCG.
That would be ideal to me. I don't want a Super Bowl victory tainted by "It's only because they didn't face KC." Time to exorcise those demons by finally smacking down KC at home in the AFCG. The perfect farewell to the stadium, too.
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9 hours ago, balln said:
so let me get this straight. He has been out with a hamstring. Hasn’t played. Hasn’t really practiced. And somehow with today’s walkthrough he has a knee AND hamstring listed. What is with the injury reports! This year has been very weird and suspicious. I love Sal trying to explain it away with nonsense
I want to know what is with the walk-throughs. By my count, they've led to injuries to Rapp, Bass, Sanders, Kincaid (twice now), Dequan, Samuel, Palmer, Milano, and Bernard. It's just practice for god's sake! What are they doing, throwing woodstoves to each other?
12 hours ago, jkeerie said:By the time NE plays Miami, Tua, Waddle and Waller will all be injured. It's just the way NE's schedule has played out. The football gods are smiling on them.
So far. I suspect a reckoning is coming. They're a lovely football team, ripe for a smackdown.
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9 hours ago, Scott7975 said:
Come on man. Just come to terms that NE is a damn good football team with a legit QB. It's ok bro. Every week people say NE could lose the game. This week people had the Giants beating them FFS. Like that was ever going to happen. I'm not going to sit here and say they won't lose another game but they aren't going to dump 3 games. Miami may have had a little streak but in years past we all know Tua and the fish dont play well in Dec/winter months.
The answer is that on paper, no it isn't out of reach. Thinking logically about it is another story.
I am thinking logically--about an illogical season that has turned expectations upside down. The Raiders beating the Ravens? The Panthers beating the Rams AND Green Bay? Miami blowing out the Bills? As you say, "Like that was ever going to happen." But it did. So, yeah, New England could easily lose three more games. A few injuries like the Bills have had, a few bad bounces, Diggs doing his diva thing, and the bottom could fall out for them. And I for one would love to see it.
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5 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:
I think most folks thought going into the Steelers game any win , ugly or not, would be solid....the Steelers were not that bad, had matchup problems tailor made to beat us, and we were incredibly inconsistent and beat up....and playing in a house of horrors.
Somehow that narrative changed.
Folks and talking head fans now think we had a flukie gimmicky win against a terrible team that had no chance.
I think that's wrong, but I also think the same narrative that the Bengals are back baby and that the Ravens are good are also wrong.
I think we are going to roll over the Bengals come Sunday even without Bosa.
I agree, but I also thought they would beat Miami easily and take care of business in Houston. It's been a roller coaster of a year, and going into the home stretch, I'm still not confident I know who this team is. I wouldn't be surprised if they won out, and I wouldn't be surprised if they lost to the Bengals and New England and then lost in the first round of the playoffs. Either way, we'll be saying, "See? I told you so!"
In a way, their utter unknowability makes them more fun to watch, since I have to temper my expectations, meaning I'll be less crushed if they lose (half expecting it) and more thrilled if they win (only half expecting it).
Being a fan is weird.
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3 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:
1) Kyle Williams is the receiver you cite behind Diggs and Hollins?
The fact that you don't know who Kayshon Boutte or Pop Douglas are basically tells me that you don't actually follow NFL football.
Boutte has become one of the best deep threats in the league. His ascent started prior to McDaniels arrival.
Douglas is an electric slot/gadget guy. Another guy who was impactful prior to McDaniels. How could you not remember him when he used to be the only guy with juice in that WR corps in years past?
Very impactful, dynamic, inexpensive, starting caliber players with complementary skills who are trending toward getting paid handsomely when their FA comes.
What really gives your angle away is that you know who their 5th or 6th receiving option is(Kyle Williams).......likely because he was in the draft last year and you probably start paying attention to draft eligible players after the season is over.
There is no comparing their WR corps to that of the Bills. Even if the Bills had the health that they have had in NE. If Allen had that group and a healthy Hunter Henry instead of an absent Dalton Kincaid then Allen is likely in the process of repeating his MVP performance.......and then some.
2) As for the old argument that Tom Brady had no pass game options.........he had a HoF TE in Gronk and a very impactful, dynamic player in Julian Edelman(much better than anyone the Bills currently have at WR) for a lot of those seasons in question.
When it started getting to the level of how bad the Bills receiving talent is THIS season....specifically 2019....that's when Brady's production fell off dramatically and the next season he went to Tampa Bay and his career was revived thanks to a bunch of excellent receiving options.
I admit I avoid the Patriots' games and so shouldn't comment on their performance. My animus toward all things related to the Pats* was showing there. But what gives you away in turn are your absolutes, as in your claim that the Bills' anemic passing offense is "all about" the wide receivers and nothing to do with Joe Brady, which I think is ludicrous. We see what we expect to see. That might apply to me, but it also might apply to you.
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1 hour ago, Process said:
For what? Making the playoffs? We need two wins. We have 5 games left.
We are not in must win mode at all. With the division pretty much out of reach, I'm being very cautious with injured guys the rest of the way.
Is the division out of reach? Miami is surging. It's not out of the question that they sweep New England. We win out, and we take the division. Not too crazy a scenario.
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3 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said:
Was hoping Kincaid was a go and not limited! Palmer is trending towards a Samuel status with minimal impact and injury. Surprised Dawkins is still in concussion status.
How many games has Kincaid missed this year? Concerning with his reduced snap count that he can’t stay healthy.
Kincaid, Palmer, Samuel, and Bernard, wow. Given their contributions to date, it might have been better to put them all on season-long injured reserve and sign players with less talent who can actually play.
Best case scenario: All of them return to full health (along with Oliver) for the playoffs. Realistic scenario: They all continue showing up as "Limited" on the injury report but never show up on the field. Or, if they do, immediately get injured again.
I'm a Bills fan, so I'm hoping for the best and expecting the worst.
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4 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:
You just described the personnel of a team that could lead the NFL in rushing. Which they do.
What you failed to note was that it's not about not having two All-Pro WR's.......they literally have the worst WR corps in the NFL and the solid TE's that are available most weeks are primarily just blockers. The one TE who is a matchup problem for a defense in the passing game is Kincaid and Brady has made great use of him in the rare instances that he is available this year.
The Brady hate is about the receivers sucking. There is no margin for error. In the past Allen could heave a prayer downfield or......more often.......buy time and make otherwise ineffective play calls look good. He did it all the time for Daboll and Dorsey.
Now a bad play call is dead in the water for lack of playmakers. So it seems like there are more of them. There are probably LESS because they have to lean into what works at the expense of balance.
Add into that Allen is having a poor season as a decision maker and in terms of consistency with ball placement/accuracy. Now some of that can be a factor of the disjointed passing game keeping him out of rhythm but it still comes down to the talent at receiver.
I mean if you would have told me in August that they would have to elevate wrong-way Gabe Davis AND have to throw slants to him.......when they were deathly afraid to do so the first time he was here because his hands are so bad.......I could have told you the WR position was in shambles. Getting rid of the interception-factory that was Gabe in 2022-2023 was a key reason that they were able to reduce turnovers in 2024.
The Bills inconsistency offensively is all about these bummy WR's and the inability of Kincaid to stay on the field.
"All about" is pretty strong. Look at the Patriots game, when Brady benched his best skill player in crunch time, or the Houston game, when he did nothing to protect Allen against a fierce pass rush, or his failure to do anything with Moore or Samuel, who both put up much better numbers with their former teams.
You could say Coleman is a bust--or you could say Brady has failed to tap his potential. You could say Samuel sucks, Shakir is limited, Shavers does nothing, and Moore was a wasted signing--or you could say all of them would thrive with a coordinator who figured out how to use them, not utterly give up on him, as Brady appears to have done. How many screens to Shakir behind the line of scrimmage will it take for you to agree that another coordinator could do better? How many back-shoulder throws to Coleman, endless mesh routes, stupid gimmick plays, and utter lack of deep shots, except for that one to Palmer--one!--in the Atlanta game?
No argument that this WR corps is awful, but what would a good coordinator like McDaniels do with it, given that he didn't have much more than that to work with when he was coaching Tom Brady? Heck, look at what he's doing now with a group of receivers that, on paper, aren't much better than the Bills have: a fading Diggs, a journeyman in Mack Hollins, and a promising but often-struggling rookie in Kyle Williams? Yet they're 10-2, with a quarterback, line, and set of running backs that are not as good as what the Bills have.
No, Brady is the problem. Swap receivers with New England, and I guarantee you McDaniels would do as well or better with ours and Brady would do as badly or worse with theirs.
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5 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said:
Also, I think Brady was passing game coordinator at LSU, not OC, and called plays only in certain situations.Yikes. He really has cashed in on that thin resume, hasn't he? I'm beginning to think he may be the only impediment to this team going all the way. If he rises just to the level of "adequate," they could to the Super Bowl. I don't think I'm being unfair. The wide receiver corps is bad, but he's not doing anything at all with it, and I suspect a better coordinator could do much more.
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Bust or Breakout: Can Keon Coleman make an "Eric Moulds" style great leap forward
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Yes, Allen doesn't get enough blame for his part on missed throws. Although he's done miracles with his accuracy overall, he's still no Brady or Marino, whose ball placement were things of beauty. I wouldn't say Allen is inaccurate by any means, but his strengths lie elsewhere.
What I don't get is why his receivers can't get open even when Allen buys them enormous amounts of time. You see them out there running INTO coverage or just jogging around aimlessly. How hard can it be to run to the open field or come back to your quarterback or just sprint upfield?