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5 hours ago, The Jokeman said:
Gotta wonder what would have happened had we kept Roland Mitchell. As Yes, we got Leonard Smith in the trade but Mitchell had a longer career.
I forgot about Roland Mitchell. Later, I was so excited about Henry Jones at safety. But then Marv Levy sat him during the Super Bowl when we (as I recall) Leonard Smith was getting smoked.
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59 minutes ago, Cash said:
Oh yeah. AKA J.D. Williams. He's the guy who changed his number in the hopes that officials would forget who he was, because he thought he was typecast as a guy who commits a lot of penalties. (It didn't work.) He either went from 29 to 31 or vice versa, I think.
Right, J.D. Blazingly fast, with long arms but just couldn't track the ball or stick with his man. Strange, and a real bummer, because a shut-down corner across from Nate Odomes was just what that team needed.
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55 minutes ago, mrags said:
If we let go of Douglas this staff is outright ridiculous. He was our best defender down the stretch last year. And it wasn’t even close.
Yes, he was terrific. But he did have some odd moments of standing around. At least twice I wondered, "Who in the hell is 31?" Also, Elam's upside is pretty high. He's got length, size, speed, athleticism, and (we're told) a solid work ethic. You would think his weaknesses--tackling and zone awareness--could be learned. But busts do happen. Anyone old enough to remember James Williams, the Bills' fast, athletic 1990 first-round pick at cornerback?
Anyway, yeah, a tough call. If Beane extends Douglas, he'll have a solid corner and good depth for at least two or three years, albeit an older one (Douglas will be 30 in August). But his salary cap problems deepen. If he doesn't extend him, he saves a nice chunk of change but is gambling that either Elam or White can hold up that side.
Given that it's a lean year and we have no DL depth, I would understand if Beane rolled the dice.
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51 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:
There have been PLENTY of deals much worse than the Miller deal. This is just angry Bills talk
Yes, there have been stinkers. But think of the outcome the Bills may be facing at the end of 2025: $114 million dollars for half a season of excellent play. There have been some truly awful contracts, but not many compete with that much money for that little production. Not blaming Miller or, really, Beane. He rolled the dice and (so far) got snake eyes. Happens.
I'm not so much angry as bummed out that one of the few huge gambles Beane took has fallen flat.
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1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
I’m really tired of this take. All signings have risks. Miller was making the entire defense better and getting to the QB at a high level until he tore his acl. It’s not like we signed him and he suddenly became Aaron MaybinNot saying that. I acknowledged Miller was performing well and still might return to form. But if he doesn't, his contract will prove to be a horrendous waste of money and lost opportunity. Beane wanted to get to Mahomes. I wished at the time and still do now that he had instead given Allen another weapon so he could outscore Mahomes. Allen did anyway, at least during the regular season, even throwing to Diggs and a bunch of warm bodies.
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8 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:
It was a stupid Super Bowl or bust type contract and we are paying for that stupidity now. The Knox contract was pretty stupid as well.
Very unlike Beane, too, who has otherwise navigated for the long haul. The Tampa Bay rush shutting down Mahomes in the Super Bowl really seemed to make an impression on him. Fine, but committing that much money to a single player, especially one on the back end of his career, was really risky. I remember just at the time he was upset at Washington for reneging on the McKissic deal. Could he have acted impulsively?
Plus, he either didn't consider or dismissed the idea of giving his own star quarterback the same weapons Mahomes had--TWO star receivers, along with (the next year, in response to the Super Bowl loss) a rock-solid line.
This coming year, if both teams score a good WR, the two offenses will be more or less on par, finally. But, because of the Miller swing and miss, the Bills defense will likely take a step back. Beane always seems to be one step behind KC.
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On 2/23/2024 at 3:01 PM, GASabresIUFan said:
LOL, the Bills aren't cutting Miller. His cap hit is 23.8 million, but his dead cap is 32.5. Why would anyone essentially pay more not to have someone play?
Even if you do the June 1 cut, his cap hit is 17 million and you adding a cap hit to 2025. Miller will be a Bill in 2024.
Cutting him in 2025 makes much more sense. His dead cap would be down to 15.4 vs a roster cap hit of 23.9. However, a June 1 cut cap cost would be down to 6.4. This would be much more feasible.
Unless he's a superstar next year and very good the following year, too, Miller will go down as one of the worst free-agent signings in NFL history. $114 million for 8 sacks, to date. Think of what that kind of dough could have bought elsewhere.
He could still turn it around, but at this point, signing Miller was like putting all your retirement money in Blockbuster--in 2004.
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21 hours ago, Nephilim17 said:
Not news we can use but nice and interesting to see. I don't hear Jim's name come up in this convo outside of some fans here.
"To me, [Joe] Montana and [John] Elway, Jim Kelly -- those guys, all those guys," Marino told Sports Illustrated before Super Bowl LVIII. "Patrick Mahomes, he's going to be considered one of the best ever, too. You got Tom Brady, you got a lot of guys. So, there's a lot to pick from there."
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/dolphins-legend-dan-marino-lists-his-greatest-nfl-quarterbacks-of-all-time-one-surprising-name-makes-the-cut/#:~:text="To me%2C [Joe],of the best ever%2C too.Any list that doesn't have Allen on it is unpersuasive to me.
FWIW, I think Marino would blow away Mahomes and anyone else in today's game. Not to be a homer, but the only possible exception is Allen, who can't match Marino's passing but is a superior runner.
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15 hours ago, Virgil said:
I wouldn't trade Josh Allen for anything. Keep Mahomes' wife and brother the hell away from this team.
People used to ask if I would trade for Brady or the Hoodie for one ring, and I said no. Same answer with Mahomes.
Also, absolutely no one could have predicted Mahomes was going to have the career he's had. He fell to 10 for a reason. Yes, some people thought he had potential, but at the time, no one was harping on the Bills for that trade
Yes, at the time it was a good trade. But in retrospect, the Bills clearly got the better deal. Allen AND White for Mahomes?
The impact of the trade is distorted because Mahomes landed on a team that had everything but a quarterback, Allen on a team that had squat (anyone besides Milano?) and was starting from scratch with a new regime.
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Great insight. We're cheating ourselves of a lot of fun and pleasure by being perennially disappointed the Bills didn't go all the way and by dwelling on the low points of the year. This quarterback we have may be the best the franchise has ever had and ever WILL have, even in the lifetimes of the younger fans among us. I've been watching the Bills since 1973, and only Kelly is in the neighborhood of Josh Allen. That's 50 years, folks.
If we need a model of how to approach the game, we have one in Allen himself. He's positive, cheerful, fiercely competitive, and never blames others. He feels losses keenly but bounces right back.
I'm already looking forward to next year!
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4 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me you didn't watch the video.
Ive been critical of him too, but your response here is way off base.
I confess I didn't watch the video.
I'm a bad, bad poster. 😔
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7 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:
I saw this on Gabe’s Instagram tonight, but then found someone who posted to Twitter too, so posting both links in case it’s easier for someone to watch one over the other.
Kind of looks like he is putting this out to both highlight his time here and promote his accomplishments ahead of Free Agency. Smart move.
Even though I’ve been in the camp to let him go and draft a WR this year, this was still a fun watch and he has brought some big moments and games to his time in Buffalo. He makes a good case for himself at the end with the stats and rankings combined with the low targets compared to others.
Overall this is a great piece for himself ahead of free agency and so enjoyed it and I wish him well.
Link to video on Gabe’s actual account:https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3jSE3WMeRO/?igsh=ZDE1MWVjZGVmZQ==
Someone reposting it on Twitter:
Thank you for what memories? The downfield blocking? The "positive locker room presence"? How earnestly he ran a limited route tree and get an inch of separation?
Nice fellow, wish him well. Also wish we had never drafted him.
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1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:
Possibility that guys make the team either lack of production or money
No chance
We are so poor, we can’t even afford the OR
Yes, I get that. Plus, they probably would prefer signing what little dough they have on keeping Jones at DT to ease the transition from the high draft pick I hope they use on the position. Most likely, they'll draft a free safety in the mid-rounds (or a corner they can convert) and hope he can step in. The answer is certainly not on the roster now, unless they convert one of the CBs. Safety is a glaring hole, second only to the yawning chasm at WR2.
Man, the Miller signing is like a rotting corpse draped around a drowning man.
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On 2/15/2024 at 8:35 PM, khlax3 said:
With FA less than a month away I figured it was time to start taking a look at some. Value free agents. With limited cap space but plenty of needs the Bills will need to hopefully find guys who can provide value and fill roles a low cost. Our impact players are most likely going to come from the draft. Here is a list I started to get some discussion going. Look forward to seeing other names people think could be a fit at a low to moderate cost.
RB:
Antonio Gibson (Washington)
AJ Dillion (GB)
D’ Onta Foreman (Chi)
Gus Edwards (Bal)
Clyde Edwards Helaire (KC)
Kareem Hunt (Cleveland)
J.K. dobbins (Bal)
WR:
Kendrick Bourne (NE)
Nelson Agholar (Bal)
Josh Reynolds (Detroit)
Donovan People’s Jones (Det)
Darnell Mooney (Chi)
Dj Chark (Car)
Slightly more costly but not top dollar:
Tyler Boyd (cincy)
Curtis Samuel (wash)
Hollywood brown (Arizona)
Saftey:
Julian Blackmon (colts)
Jordan Fuller (Rams)
Jermey chin (panthers)
Mike Edwards (KC)
Dashon Elliot (Miami)
Tashon Gibson (SF)
DT:
Tiare Tart (titans-Texans)
Maurice Hurst (Cleveland)
Javon Kinlaw (SF)
Raekwon Davis (Miami)
Kyle Dugger is a free agent. Would be a dream signing, very expensive. More of a strong safety, although he's played free safety, too. Since we have Poyer, it's probably not a perfect fit. But he's a budding star coming into his prime years. Give me WR and DT/DE in draft and Dugger in free agency.
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This with a single top receiver--and even he dropped off a cliff midseason.
Screw the defense. Give this man three top receivers, good protection, and a run game, and he will score 75 points a game.
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14 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:
he just named the guy he’s going to fire after next season.For not playing "complementary football"?
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4 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
He coached scared, can't do that against KC.
Tell that to McDermott.
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1 hour ago, BananaB said:
They used enough resources they should field a solid D despite injuries. When ***** was going wrong early in the season did they do anything to help the O after Beanes prized WR signings ***** to bed, no they went out and did what they could to fix McDs defense. Oddly enough, despite all the injuries it was the least the Chiefs scored on them in 3 playoff games. Maybe that’s because our O held the ball for close to 2/3 of the game trying to dunk dunk down field all night long. WRs can’t get separation and when Allen makes an incredible throw they can’t catch. Not really a surprise though, a lot of us didn’t buy into Beanes ***** about Davis’s ankle holding him back the year before. Nor did we buy into a couple Jags who been tossed around the league to be the answer.
Yeah, I'm less willing to defend Beane on the offense he's provided. Too little too late. That ginormous contract he gave Miller could have gone to an A+ receiver that may have put them over the top, even taking into account the impact Miller might have had if he had stayed healthy. That was just a bad call. He saw how Tampa Bay got to Mahomes and thought that was the only way to stop him. Did he consider that Allen could simply outscore KC if he had sufficient weapons? Major fork in the road with that signing. Beane took us down the road to Pallokaville.
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6 hours ago, SoMAn said:
I like Brown. I don't have any problem with is play. I think he was unfairly maligned by some, who maybe had unrealistic expectations for him as a starting NFL tackle. He was given baptism by fire as a rookie, and in '22, playing through an injury (bad ankle?) Young and still learning, his play was adequate in '23 and should continue to improve and be a fixture on the line for a good while.
I've maligned him often, but I don't think I was being unfair. He's been beaten on numerous occasions since he arrived, most memorably in the 13-second game, when he was rag-dolled by Melvin Ingram. He's been beaten so often over his career Josh Allen would reflexively dodge the rusher Brown let through. "Take snap, dodge Brown's man, look, throw."
Who was the poster who generously posted his review of each O-linemen after every game? Brown always got low grades. Same with the grades from the Athletic. Only this past year, and maybe just the second half of last year, did he do a competent job in pass-pro. He's improved to average. That's something, I guess. But I'm hardly excited about him.
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7 hours ago, Sweats said:
I've lost all faith in this regime that they can fairly evaluate talent at any level.
Spend a boat load of picks on the D every year in the draft and FA's and the D fails us every year with a D minded HC, mind you.....you see where i'm going with this?
Draft absolutely nothing of value for the O and expect JA to be a "one man show" every week.
It's disgusting.
And we wonder why we just can't seem to get over the hump and even just get to a SB, let alone win one.
Not sure you're being entirely fair to either Beane or McDermott. Putting aside injuries, look at this defense Beane provided: Miller, Oliver, Rousseau, Jones, Milano, Bernard, Taron, White, Benford, Poyer, and Hyde, with reasonable depth everywhere. Plus, he hit the jackpot with Floyd and Douglas when injuries did hit.
That's three All-Pros (Miller, White, and Milano), three Pro-Bowlers (Taron, Hyde, and Poyer), and three future Pro-Bowlers (Oliver, Rousseau, and Bernard). And Jones, who might have been their defensive MVP last year. Pretty good shooting.
Now look at the injuries: White, Milano, Miller, Hyde, Bernard, Jones, Benford. They lost SEVEN key players for either long stretches or for the playoffs over the past two years. And they still fielded a reasonable defense.
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This Bills team is this generation's version of the Kelly-era Bills: Good enough to go almost all the way, but never never never good enough to win it all. With yet another version waiting to break our hearts in 25 years.
Always wide right, throughout eternity. 😱
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47 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:
Wow, that IS just a tad harsh! 😀
I should have said "WE Bills fans." ☹️
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Bills fans are hard on McDermott, Davis, Bass, etc., because they live vicariously through the Bills and they hate feeling like the almost-winners or losers they feel like they (not the Bills, they) might be.
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50 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said:
And the funny thing is we actually end up getting to host KC in the playoffs this year and it still didn't matter
Ah, I wouldn't spend too much time fretting that the Bills are inferior. I don't they are. I won't be winning any arguments because results are the bottom line, but just watch. As long as the Bills don't become a "I'm a loser!" head case like the Super Bowl Bills against Washington and Dallas, they'll win their share of championships. When KC and Buffalo play, it's a coinflip who will win; that's been the case for years. The flip just happened to come up Buffalo in the regular season matches and KC in the playoffs. Just about all of those games could have gone either way.
No, all else being equal (no small condition, I realize), we'll see a regression to the mean, and on two Lombardi trophies in Buffalo.
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Paying off the Miller bill in dribs and drabs. Only $122 million to go. Make that $121.5 million now.