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2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
That is standard practice around the league
Day 3 is the scouts day. If you think Brandon Beane is an expert on all the guys they pick day 3 that is just not how it works. Days 1 and 2 are the execs. Day 3 is known as "the working man's day" and it is when you find out how good your road scouts are.
No, my point was that Beane might want to better heed his scouts' advice on day one and two, not just on day three. It's appropriate the execs make the final calls in the draft, since there are considerations the execs know about and the scouts don't. But, as we at TBD know all too well, it's easy to fall in love with players and feel positive you're right, since, after all, you've read two draft magazines and saw a lot of highlights on YouTube. If I'm Beane, I go with the scouts unless I have very, very good reason not to.
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46 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
Yea he did some scouting when he was promoted assistant GM in Carolina. Dave Gettleman (who got the job over Beane after Beane had been the acting GM when Hurney was fired the first time) took him under his wing and taught him a bit. But he came up on the football ops side. Joe Schoen was the talent evaluator. He is a career scout. I know from people in the building when it came to personnel Beane trusted Joe more than he trusted himseld. I think Gaine and Grey are fine personnel people and I am sure Brandon trusts them. But not like he trusted Joe Schoen.
Joe Schoen who let Barkley walk without compensation and signed Daniel Jones to a $92 million contract before releasing him, too, also without compensation? This is the guy whose judgment Beane trusted above his own?
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3 hours ago, uticaclub said:
Did he reference TheStadiumWall? He is expressing what many of us are saying. Nothing groundbreaking.
The only nugget I found interesting was their speculation that Beane might be making the calls in the early rounds and his scouts (experts) in the later rounds, which would explain the results we've seen. That, together with their observation that Beane is a management guy with no background in scouting made all the pieces fall into place for me. You see the same thing happen on other teams with the owners or head coaches shouldering in and choosing the first-round players, usually with disastrous results.
If this is the case, Beane needs to check his ego at the door on draft day.
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On 2/12/2025 at 11:24 AM, DapperCam said:
KC’s offense was middle of the pack all season. You don’t need an elite defense to contain it. You just need a not terrible defense. A bar we could not clear.Not pressuring the quarterback, not jamming the receivers, and not covering them is a recipe for disaster, and that was the 2024 Bills defense in a nutshell. Even with deficient offensive tackles, Mahomes (and Stafford et al) had time to pat the ball, bounce a few times, and wait for his receivers to come off their free release and into their routes.
Far from building a defense to stop Kansas City, McBeane have created a dream defense for Mahomes to play against. If I'm KC, I'm terrified of Allen and deeply relieved that the Bills defense is so, so bad.
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On 2/12/2025 at 11:55 AM, Beast said:
I don’t see any way they waste a pick on a running back. They may already have the best trio in the league and I am betting Johnson comes back….then add Gore on the PS. They’ll sign an UDFA for that group.
And I don’t want a guy with hip issues at CB.
Maybe not, but Beane may be overly cautious about medicals. I really wanted him to draft Trey Smith a few years ago at guard, especially when he fell from the second to the third round, then fourth , fifth, sixth--and STILL Beane passed. Finally KC picked up him up late in the sixth round, and he's been an excellent starter since, with no problem with his "debilitating" injury.
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9 hours ago, billsfan89 said:
Seems like the issue isn't injuries but how the players drafted are developing their bodies from what I am reading.
Any specifics?
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This the day after the Buffalo News reported the Bills have ranked in the top ten healthiest teams in the NFL six of the past eight years...
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How about Marcel Dareus? If you want to consider "worst" to be the worst considering where he was picked, you can make an argument for Dareus, who was just a warm body when it came down to it. Third pick of the 2011 draft, followed immediately by three future Hall of Fame players: AJ Green, Patrick Peterson, and Julio Jones.
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12 minutes ago, uticaclub said:
Got to take flyers in the 7th round
It was a great pick. Just fun, even if it didn't work out.
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Another criteria for worst draft pick would be who disappointed the most. For me, that would be Mike Jasper, a 400-pound offensive lineman who could dunk a basketball. What could go wrong?
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The NFC champs just humiliated the Chiefs by rushing just four and dropping seven. Beane sees this and eyes the upcoming draft, determined to build a dominating defensive line. In fact, he's so eager, he may double dip and draft two defensive ends in the first two rounds AND add one of the best defensive linemen in the league, even if it blows up the cap for years to come.
That was 2021. Four year later, he's in the exact same position.
My point: Don't get your hopes up. Like McDermott, Beane might be just good enough to lose.
(P.S. I'm a Bills fan. My hopes are up no matter what. Sigh.)
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4 minutes ago, BeastMaster said:
I was on board with paying him if he wanted a reasonable extension. Now with how he's been acting I am not even sure if I would make that offer.
Agree. That's a me-first, Diggs-type vibe. Definitely listen to trade offers, but if a third doesn't materialize, have play out his last year and let him go, no hard feelings either year. He'll be wanting to prove himself, so he should give the Bills a good year.
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56 minutes ago, Brand J said:
Lawrence equals Justin Herbert. Maybe lesser.
Interesting comparison. Both are prototypes for the position except for the most important "It" factor."
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3 hours ago, Pete said:
That’s Josh Allen, our OL, and the RB room. One can always be better, and you should always try and improve. Imagine our offense if we had a WR that could take the top off. James Cooks carries 22% of the time we’re in a stacked box. A competent X WR opens up the middle for Knox and Dalton, and gives Cook more space to operate. This simple addition would make the offense much, much better. How can you argue against that?
It’s not about the most points in the season, it’s about the who has the most points each game.
I do think Allen needs a WR1, which won't be easy to acquire, since he'll either be very expensive or high-round pick, neither of which the Bills can easily afford giving the alarming state of its defense. Aside from that need, they should be set on offense (given that Cook doesn't hold out) and can devote most of their attention and cap room to defense.
What will it take to turn this bottom-five unit into a top-five? An elite pass rusher (e.g., a Garrett or Crosby), AND a run-stuffing tackle, AND a top cornerback, along with quality safety, linebacker, and corner depth. In short, pretty much all ten draft picks and all the cap room Beane can create.
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On 2/10/2025 at 11:14 PM, BruceVilanch said:
Sounds like someone needed to get an article out and just threw this out there.
Have you noticed the proliferation of articles reporting that other reporters have come up with wild trade or signing? Like "Bills linked to Tyreek Hill."
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13 hours ago, Success said:
I thought Bishop looked really good at times. I think we can go w/ him & Rapp heading into the season.
There are other areas that need more attention and money.
I agree about Bishop, but we do need a quality veteran next to him. When they had Poyer and Hyde back there, they led the league in defensive EPA by a wide margin. If the Bills want to continue rushing only four, they need a quality secondary to pair with a potent rush. If Beane had found the resources to sign Justin Simmons last year, I think that would have put them over the top.
But it won't be easy. They need a WR1, a top pass rusher, a starting corner, AND a quality safety. You could argue they're all equally important, but, after this Super Bowl (which echoed the Tampa Bay demolition of Fey Patrick), I fear Beane will once again sell the farm for an aging pass rusher who will flash then get hurt, setting the team back for another three years.
I'm rooting for you, Beane, but I have to say my faith in you is dwindling as your meh drafts pile up.
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15 hours ago, Brand J said:
If you guys recall, going into the conference championship games the most popular SB matchups - from best to least - were:
Bills vs Commanders
Bills vs Eagles
Chiefs vs Commanders
Chiefs vs Eagles
There was then talk about boycotting the SB over questionable officiating and many others said they simply weren’t interested enough to watch. Well, the ratings are out, and the NFL has set yet another record:
Guess more needed to boycott.
You're missing the most obvious reason: the word spread that the Chiefs were being humiliated and tuned in. That's the only reason I did. Don't underestimate the power of schadenfreude.
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1 hour ago, harmonkillebrew said:
It's true, we have invested major capital in the Dline to beat the Chiefs - Von, AJ, Groot, Boogie, Oliver a few years before - and here we are, back to the drawing board. Beane has had some big whiffs.
Want to play the hindsight game?
2024: Round 2: Beane picked Coleman over Lad McConkey, Cooper DeJean, and Kamari Lassiter (and Worthy, of course)
2023: Round 1: Moved up for Kincaid instead of down for Joey Porter, Sam LaPorta, Rashee Rice (all in the second round), and Tank Dell (third round).
2022: Round 1: After KC jumped over us for McDuffie, Beane moved up for Elam instead of down for George Pickens and others.
I have to stop. Too depressing.
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4 hours ago, Thrivefourfive said:
I actually think the Bills D line wasn’t the problem vs KC. Mahomes released everything so quickly, and then the play was SO OPEN. Spotting them 8 yards every single play.
Agree. It was drop back, pause a beat, throw. Last night, it was drop back, pause a beat, get sacked.
The defensive line is getting the heat, but it's the linebackers and secondary that were the problem, either the players or the Babich/McDermott "Let them have eight yards, maybe they'll get a penalty or something, hopefully" defensive philosophy.
I wonder if McDermott and Beane are on the same page. Beane seems to want overwhelming pressure on the QB, and McDermott wants bend don't break (or break, fine, but hope the offense will bail us out).
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6 minutes ago, BuffaloMatt said:
The Eagles got home six times for a sack and pressured many more times without blitzing once. It's called better DL players. Our front four was stymied by KC's putrid OL. Clearly our defense was a liability that our offense hid and the Eagles showed the league what a real defense looks like from their DL, LB and DBs. Now Beane knows what he needs to do.
He learned what to do in 2021 when Tampa Bay did the same thing to KC. That's why he immediately drafted Rousseau and Basham and gave away the store for Von Miller. Knowing what to do and doing it are two different things. I know how to dunk a basketball but never have done it nor ever will.
The Bills look pathetic against KC be a) the line can't get pressure; and b) McDermott likes to play soft. When will that change if it hasn't yet?
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Think this game will finally--finally!--stop all the Mahomes worship in the media?
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Diggs would have dropped that.
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8 minutes ago, Roundybout said:
Keep Oliver, Groot, Benford, Bernard. Everyone else on defense is completely expendable.
Yep.
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1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said:
Every team has aging, average vets who take up minutes because they know the system. The salary cap necessitates that. They arent supposed to be difference makers. The Bills have a Von Miller, Daquan Jones, Dawson Knox and Matt Milano issue. Guys who take up way too much of the cap who are either always injured or dont make enough of a difference.
Maybe I'd feel different if the Bills went all the way, but the names you mention, along with most of the other ones that don't start with an "A," scream mediocrity.
Would you trade Matt Milano?
in The Stadium Wall
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Reminds me of just how snake-bit the Bills have been with injuries. They might have been among the most healthy teams overall the past five years, but the injuries to White, Milano, and Miller--arguably their three best players at the time--were body blows. The team went from one of the best defenses in the league (in points allowed and EPA) to truly mediocre. Meanwhile, the lynchpins of their defense, Poyer and Hyde, both hit the wall at the same time, and the new generation--Rousseau, Oliver, Epenesa, Bernard, Williams, Elam, and Basham, have been underwhelming. Only Benford has exceeded expectations. Bad luck? Bad talent evaluation? Or bad coaching? Maybe some combination. In any event, it won't be easy to turn it around next year.
Anyway, back to Milano. Definitely keep him. He can still be a star. So can Rousseau on the right side with a powerhouse rusher on the left (not Miller). Maybe Bishop will turn out to be a force, too. And I love Taron and Bernard. The others... Let's just say this defense needs an infusion of talent. Not sure of the cap implications, but I wouldn't be grieving if Beane got at least one high draft pick for some combination of Oliver, Epenesa, and Elam. I would love to see a more talented set of defensive tackles, a monster edge, and a top cornerback. Beane has ten picks to work with, three in the first two rounds--possibly four if he can trade the three I mentioned. And he can create cap room for at least one big signing. It CAN be done, especially since the offense only needs one top player.
All eyes on you, Beane.