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Not sure what you mean by "accountability." But I didn't like Beane saying he takes responsibility for the team falling short then turning around and criticizing the play calling (the offense not adapting in the Bengals game) and complaining about low draft picks (he doesn't want the team to "suck enough" to pick high).
His defensiveness reveals a lot. He assumed Brown, Saffold, and Davis were good enough. They weren't. Some of his draft picks may become starters, but the Bernard pick in the third looks pretty bad, and the Araiza pick is inexcusable.
I'm not arguing he's doing a bad job. But I don't think his performance as GM wasn't good enough last year, even setting aside the injuries and traumas. He's not going anywhere, obviously, but he--more than the coaches, IMHO--needs to up his game.
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4 hours ago, chef4131 said:
Chiefs again playing in the SB is a credit to their organization besides having Mahommes, the Chiefs certainly received great value from their 2022 draft class. Having rookie production certainly helps balance paying high salaries to top talented players
#Chiefs 2022 draft
1st rd T McDuffie - starter
1st rd G. Karlaftis - starter 2nd rd B Cook - nickel SAF
2nd rd S Moore - 4th/5th WR & PR
4th rd J Williams - starter
7th rd J Watson - starter
7th rd I Pacheco - starter
12 selections currently in ‘23 draft
1. Elam--should be starter next year. Looks pretty good.
2. Cook--could be starter. Probably committee back.
3. Bernard--fourth string backup last year. A real WTF pick at this point.
5. Shakir--could be starter next year.
6. Araiza--Gone. Bills didn't do homework on him.
6. Benford--Could be starting safety next year.
6. Tenuka--Gone. Signed off practice squad.
7. Spector--could be quality backup next year.
So the 2022 draft could result in four starters and one solid backup next year. Not as good as the Chiefs draft, but they had more picks.
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22 hours ago, Scott7975 said:
Allen may not be Mahomes but he is elite.
Just wanted to ask you about this comment, which I hear more and more on this board. Why do you think Mahomes is better than a guy who is bigger, faster, stronger, and a far better runner--and can make every throw Mahomes can make? Is it the, what, two more interceptions Allen has? I know it's not about clutch play, not with Mahomes ending KC's season last year, as well as this year's game against the Bills, with an interception. Maybe he's equal to Allen, but better?
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1 minute ago, PatsFanNH said:
Question who would you rather have Diggs or Jefferson? The WR picked with. If Falon draft pick. IMO I’d want Jefferson as you would have had 3 cheap years with him to use on other positions.
People have pointed out to me that Beane might have thought Jefferson wouldn't be there when the Bills picked, and he went with the sure thing in Diggs. That's a legit point. But after seeing him pass on AJ Brown, Metcalf, and Pickens, I wonder if he would have passed on Jefferson, too.
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3 minutes ago, without a drought said:
Kromer's sit and watch my beach chairs approach didn't seem all that effective.
I had high hopes for Kromer. Do you think the players just needed time to get used to his new approach? Evidently, it was very different.
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19 hours ago, TheBeaneBandit said:
Any of the 4 guards on that list would be significant upgrades to either of our guards. Make it happen and land one of them.
Any of my 4 nieces would be a significant upgrade to either of our guards.
Git 'er done, Beane.
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9 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:
The Eagles O-Line and D -Line are scary good. They would destroy us unless Josh played out of his mind. I think the Eagles are much better than KC but if KC can keep it close, you can never count out Mahomes. Cincy with a healthy O-Line would’ve given Eagles the best game.
A healthy Bills D-line can compete with the KC and Philly O-lines.
The screaming problems are O-line and WR. I mean, Beasley and John Brown? Saffold and Spencer Brown? Those weren't injury replacements. They're the sign of a GM who knew he blew it.
Let's see if the light goes on, finally, this offseason.
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My fear is that Beane will assume he's good enough, again. He said he would bring in competition, but if he has players like Quessenberry and Tenuka in mind, we can kiss another season goodbye.
I had a pleasant daydream that Beane trades a first-round pick, McKenzie, Davis, and Epenesa for Tristan Wirfs.
Sigh.
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I'm less impressed by the Diggs trade than you. Yes, he has performed marvelously. But the Vikes took Jefferson with the pick we gave them. Now they have a younger, cheaper, arguably better player, as well as that fourth round pick we also gave up.
You want an eventual starter with your second- and third-round pick. Neither Epenesa nor Moss are/were close. Davis and Hodgins were both very good (not great) picks. Dane and Bass were both great picks.
Beane has built a solid team but hasn't provided enough elite players. Allen, Diggs, Miller, Milano, Hyde. That's it. With the holes the roster has, this isn't enough.
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9 hours ago, newcam2012 said:
If the Bills had Bernard as their BPA then they are seriously flawed and perhaps clueless. By most experts boards Bernard was projected to go somewhere in the 5th round.
I remember so many pounding the table for Parham.
Just for fun, we should establish which player this board wants in each round at the moment of the pick and post the results for all to see. I think we would have missed on Allen, but we might have hit on many others, including Parham over Bernard, Humphrey over Basham, and Metcalf over Ford. Of course, I would take Allen over all of these players combined.
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Fans wanted Andy Reid gone, too, because he couldn't get his teams over the hump. It's not the coaching. Or to the degree that it is--squib kick, anyone?--the next staff won't be any better overall, and the risk of regression is way too high.
No, the solution is obvious: more talent on offense. Beane has gotten exactly ONE big thing right on offense: drafting Allen. Even with Diggs he could have had a cheaper, better player in Jefferson (along with extra picks).
If you want to upgrade something, start by upgrading Beane's scouting- and pro-personnel staff. Beane is blowing it as we watch.
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Beane deserves all the blame he's getting for the O-line problems, but he was just snake-bit in the secondary. White, Poyer, Hyde, Johnson. That's a pro-bowl lineup across the board.
Most optimistic view for next year: White returns to form, Hyde doesn't show his age yet, Elam turns into a star, and Beane or McDermott find an adequate strong safety.
Most pessimistic: White remains a slow, grabby, hesitant player, Hyde starts his decline, Elam is a bust, and the strong safety is a liability.
Most realistic: White and Elam improve but top out as average starters, Hyde starts strong but starts to fade by the end of the season; Benson or whoever is adequate but not much more.
In short, the secondary should be better next year, but that's not saying much.
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8 hours ago, Airseven said:
Stick with how bad the OL was - how Beane got duped by Saffold and how he paid/promoted Bates perhaps prematurely. This doesn’t need to always wind up a backhanded compliment (excuse?) for Allen.
I'm a big fan of Beane, but his record on the O-line is abysmal. Moving up to draft Ford, trading away Teller, signing Saffold, assuming Brown could start at RT, ignoring Humphrey to draft Basham... I mean, that's just awful.
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Maybe leave the defense alone. Re-sign Edmunds, wait on Oliver, move Bedford to safety and call it quits, except some depth here and there. Put pretty much all resources into the offense: a legit WR2, RT, and guard. Maybe Brown can move to guard so we need just WR and RT. That's doable.
My worry is that Beane will convince himself that Spencer Brown is the answer at RT, and Boettger at guard. He'll draft a safety that isn't ready to play, another DE mediocrity in the second round, and a bunch of DBs and TEs in later rounds.
He just does not seem to value the offensive line. And save the "He signed Saffold and drafted Brown! in the third round!" That just proves my point.
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12 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said:
I don't see how we can resign Poyer and Edmunds and do anything else including signing rookies we draft. I do think Morse is done because of cap situations and Bates moves to Center. I don't see a reunion with Saffold unless he is taking a very low deal. We will draft oline and RB to replace Singletary. I don't see any WR coming that's new. Cole will be resigned but I don't see Mckenzie staying, Hines will replace his snaps. On defense I see them moving Benford over to safety and maybe drafting one and resigning Marlowe. I think in all honesty they like the Dline but too many snaps lost to injury. I see a moderately good to great Guard and draft a tackle mid round. I also see a LB drafted and signed and Klein coming back. Edmunds is better than Klein but Edmunds is going to get overpaid.
This plan sounds about right. Moving on from Morse will save money. He may retire anyway with his history of concussions. If Bates moves to center (which he's always wanted), that leaves three holes to fill, unless Brown finally gets it in his third season. The Morse savings could pay for one guard, and a second-round draft pick can compete with Boettger for the other spot. First-round pick: a tackle to compete with Dawkins and Brown. The one big free agency pickup could be WR. So Diggs, FA, and Shakir at WR, two high draft picks on OL to compete with Brown and Boettger. Benford and Hyde at safety. Sign Edmunds, let Oliver show what he has in his last year.
Could do worse.
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11 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:
It will solve all our probs so hope it gets done
Not sure I agree. They've had a lot of success with Frazier. As someone said, you're pulling your hair out then realize the other team scored less than 22 points--again. As for Dorsey, the continuity with Allen is important. Plus, the numbers don't lie: this offense scored points and moved the ball, despite truly mediocre talent outside of Allen and Diggs. I'm happy to continue with both.
I do think Beane needs a better scouting and pro-personnel department.
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1 hour ago, McBean said:
The reasons above should’ve been used as fuel to win it all.
Weak post.
Totally disagree. I think the OP nailed it. The team was emotionally exhausted. They went through shite no other team has been through, and it's not an excuse to point it out. Yes, all flaws are just as relevant, from talent and coaching to individual performances. But they've been running on fumes since the Damar episode, and they finally hit empty. Easy to say they should have used the many traumas as fuel to win it all. Really easy. Have another beer while saying it.
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13 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said:
They’ve completely missed on all the defensive lineman they added except Von. I’m still holding out hope for Greg Rousseau.
As far as Ed Oliver..I’m done with him. Not the impact player the Bills hoped he would beNot sure I'm done with him, but he's not elite and should not be paid that way. He's a nice player who disappears a lot. Elite players don't disappear like he di today.
11 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:The massive cap and draft capital invested in the DL specifically and defense in general are yet to pay any discernible dividends in the post season. That’s any post season. It is ridiculous.
Rousseau was a good pick, and Jones was a good pickup. Miller was a brave gamble that was paying off until he got hurt. The rest play like backups. That's a lot of picks and money that could have gone into much better players.
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Why not blame it all on Billy Buffalo? You don't blame Spencer ("Look out!") Brown, Roger ("Ole!") Saffold, or "Drops" Davis, or the mauled defense. Instead, you blame the one truly elite player the team has. Why didn't he escape the three DEs in his face--again--and catch the perfect ball he put in Davis chest? He's regressed!
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3 minutes ago, H2o said:
Biggie Smalls. You know, The Notorious B.I.G. The song is Dead Wrong. It also has Eminem in it. The short bus dropped off everyone today I see.
Apologies, didn't know that. I hear a lot of misogyny where I live and get tired of it.
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3 minutes ago, H2o said:
Smack the b**** in the face
Take her Gucci bag and the North Face
Off her backClose to a haiku! Try this:
H20, nice guy
Wants to smack women and girls
Must miss Chiefs Planet
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I feel confident about this game. I think the Bills will win, and Elam, Shakir, Boogie and other youngsters will do fine. I'm only worried about one player: Dean Marlowe. He's the wildcard. I just hope the rest of the defense can make up for his play. (Yes, he intercepted a pass last week, but he admitted he was out of position and got lucky.)
Even if they can't, I think Allen and the offense can. I think we're going to see a more powerful version of the Bills today than we've seen in a long time.
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9 hours ago, Buffalo03 said:
He doesn't really scheme him open, if you have ever noticed on replays, a lot of times Kelce is running in one direction and then stops and starts running back the other direction and gets himself open on his own. It's not always Reid getting him open on routes
Exactly. It's a short-passing game, but that doesn't always mean quick passes from Mahomes. Sometimes Kelce gets open quickly, but other times he moves around within ten yards while Mahomes buys time until he's open. For some reason that I cannot fathom, teams (like the Bengals last night) insist on covering him with a linebacker. Put it all together--an escape-artist QB (up to now) with excellent accuracy, an exceptionally elusive TE, and a LB in single coverage, and you have "He's open every play!"
It seems to me the answer is to put a safety or big CB on him, maybe two. Take your chances elsewhere.
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Josh Allen had that gruesome injury to his throwing elbow and on the next play hit Davis in the chest with a 69-yard throw. If Mahomes runs for 69 yards in one of the next plays, I'll finally agree to see him as Allen's equal.
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Chiefs Draft 2022
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I wonder if the team is going to ask him to put on some weight in the offseason. With ten more pounds of muscle, he should be able to start breaking some tackles.