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Shades of Kelly going down in his last playoff game--against Jacksonville.
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teams typically don't trade 1st rounders for non-QBs
Except the Bills, who gave up two first rounders plus a fourth for an injury prone receiver in the deepest receiving class in NFL history to move up eight spots. The rest of the league laughed then and they're laughing now.
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You--the person calling others stupid, reckless mouth-breathers--has the audacity to criticize another's discourse?
You're right. I'm just worried about the prospect of Trump being president and transferring it onto Ryan supporters. That's not fair. Apologies.
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Some of you are bigger idiots than he is
Ah, reasoned discourse: another hallmark of the Ryan supporter. Mouth-breathers unite!
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Rex Ryan, the Donald Trump of the NFL. Deeply stupid, reckless and supported by millions of like-minded fans.
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This won't be a popular comment, but I find my interest in the Bills way down since Ryan took over. I think he will fail, but even if he succeeds I won't enjoy the success as much as I would if practically any other coach was in charge. It's like Trump winning the presidency. I love the Bills and will follow them regardless, but already I'm far less interested--and far more embarrassed for them than I have ever been. I won't claim he's incompetent, but I dislike his style so much that even my loyalty to the Bills is diminished sensibly by his rank presence. It sickens me that such a clown is associated with the team I've loved for decades.
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You sneer, but the NN of N were dead right last year, and they might be right again this year. But don't let that get in the way of your Sunshine. Rex is God, right?
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The defense wasn't excellent. With the exception of the Packers' game, the defense got lit up against good teams in much the same manner it did this season. If the Packers' coaching staff hadn't inexplicably stopped running the ball in that game, that game likely looks much different too.
1. San Diego dominated the game in Buffalo.
2. New England dominated the game in Buffalo.
3. They couldn't stop the Raiders in a must win game.
4. With the game on the line in the 4th quarter against Houston, they gave up a five minute FG drive and then on the ensuing possession needing the ball back gave up a short pass that was turned into a first down.
5. To open the fourth quarter against Minnesota, gave up a 28 yard pass on 3rd and 18. That drive ended in a FG that ended up forcing the BILLS to have to score a TD with no time left to win the game.
6. With a 9-3 lead in the third quarter in Miami, gave up back-to-back TD drives in what ended up a 22-9 loss.
7. With a 13-3 lead late in the third quarter against Kansas City, gave up back-to-back TD drives in what ended up a 17-13 loss.
The defense last season had more sacks but they suffered from the same "coming up small when it matters" thing that happens to most teams that don't make the playoffs.
This helps. I think Rex is a true fool, but it helps to be reminded that the 2014 sacks and ranking don't tell the whole story. That defense still needed work. I still would rather have it than the mess Rex created, though.
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At least you own being the stick in the mud
Typical response to anyone down on (i.e., realistic about) the Bills: attack the poster. Imagine how this board would have responded to an (accurate) forecast in August that the team would take a big step backwards under the Clown. Yet when the optimists predict glory, this board cheers them. Happens all year every year.
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Reminds me of Grego destroying our 3rd ranked Wade Philips D for his 43 and we promptly went 3-13. So all this playoff draught is really Greg Williams fault.
This precedent isn't brought up nearly enough. The 2000 Bills had two excellent defensive tackles (Ted Williams and Pat Williams) with an effective pair of ends (Phil Hansen and Marcellus Willey). Gregg Williams, defensive genius a la Rex, walked in and blew it all up, and a team that had been one play away from the conference championship two years before never recovered. It's always the same story: scheme before players, even if the scheme is excellent already for the players.
Worst case scenario for next year: mediocrity--"Hey, a few bounces and we would've made the playoffs!"-- meaning Rex gets still another year to bumble on, a la Gregg Williams.
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He has been below average in pass protection and above average in run blocking. He has been an average NFL guard in his rookie year. Give the kid a break.
Miller has been one of the worst-rated guards in the entire league. He's a turnstile in the tradition of all the putrid left guards we've seen the last three years. Line play goes up noticeably when Urbik goes in. This franchise just doesn't get it about the O-line. We haven't seen an excellent or even good one since the Super Bowl years. Always it's other priorities. Glenn, Incognito and Wood are very good; the rest (with the exception of the adequate Urbik) should not be playing in this league. Guard and right tackle have to be the top priorities. With a line strong from left to right, we'll see results. Miller should be demoted to the practice squad.
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Why wouldn't you root for your own team? Heck, its the "burn it all down! " knuckleheads on this board who drove Fitz/Gailey out of town in the first place... so now you're all warm and fuzzy and want him to succeed? Geez make up your minds
What's inconsistent? I thought the Bills could go somewhere with these two and that dumping both was premature (and I'm for dumping the Clown right now). So, yes, I'm rooting for them to go all the way. I'll never root against the Bills, but I'd love for Fitz and Gailey to stick it to this asinine organization. Plus, I'd love to see the Clown humiliated. Upshot: it's a win-win game for me Sunday.
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Mario is an all star. Releasing him would be a huge mistake.
I agree. So many posters say flatly that Rex simply can't be fired. Others (maybe the same) say just as flatly that Mario is as good as gone. Neither has to be true, and in fact the best course is the reverse. It would mean not that the franchise is "starting over" but acknowledging its mistake and moving on. If Ryan is allowed more time to tear apart the defense, then we really will have to start over with what mess he leaves behind. Yet another coach bringing in yet another scheme.
It's not too late to recover last year's defensive prowess and build on the progress the offense made this year.
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Pegula does not want to look like a fool paying a coach $27.5 million for 1 year.
That's it. I don't think it's the money. $27 million sounds like a lot, but it's not in the context of the mega salaries in the NFL.
No, it's the ego. Pegula is a new owner and doesn't want to look like a panicky novice, so he'll be inclined to go forward with the Idiot. But that is a mistake. Next year will be even worse, which makes firing the Idiot easier but doesn't do a lot for the team or its fans. What is truly awful is that Pegula probably knows this perfectly well, and he will likely go forward with the plan anyway.
Another poster made a good call: To save face, Pegula needs this team and its fans to completely lose it: open rebellion against the Idiot. Only then can he say, "Hey, it's out of my hands."
How do they get to be billionaires?
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We wish you well--in another city, another sport and another era. Please take Coach Blowhard with you.
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I think you can blame it on a learning curve, but they have had 14 games to figure it out now.
"Learning curve"? Don't you see the problem with that? This team didn't need a learning curve, not on defense anyway. Ryan made the Bills regress from excellent to mediocre. "Learning curve" my b****. The only blame rests with Coach Clown.
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Could it simply be probability? Depressing as the thought is, it stands to reason that, putting all the major-league sports together and giving it enough time, there will be at least one franchise that will whiff again and again, despite changes in ownership, management, coaching and personnel. The extremely improbable does happen. Unfortunately, it appears to be happening to our team.
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the injuries prevented this team from having a chance to compete- then new coaches, first year starting qb I thought they might- might fight for a wildcard...they kinda still are. Next year (ya i know) they have a shot to be pretty good
Injuries happen to virtually every team every year. Good teams figure a way to work their way through them. Bad teams use them as an excuse every year.
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I was optimistic when Marrone left because of the good defense and then the spending on offense. But the Rex Ryan hire really disappointed me and dampened my expectations, for the reasons that have played out. I was surprised that other Bills fans bought into him so enthusiastically (I wanted Lovie Smith or Jim Schwartz). Hope triumphing over experience?
The lack of a top QB and OL have been constants since Kelly retired, but I would argue that a more important element in the Bills persistent mediocrity has been coaching. We've had just one head coach in this era worthy of the title, and that was Chan Gailey, who was given a weak hand, did a lot with it and fired too soon by a skittish front office. The rest have been shite. We might have the worst of all in Ryan, for the reasons posters have been repeating here. He brings nothing valuable to the table and has cost the team dearly. Since "he can't be fired!" we will have lost yet ANOTHER five years waiting for him to get done failing and giving yet another coach enough time to prove himself.
And so it goes around and around and around. We'll be having a similar conversation in 2020.
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Agreed. Everyone was clamoring when Marrone took off. Now they are clamoring about Rex. Disappointment and frustration make people think irrationally. I too was skeptical about the hire and Rex bringing his staff in tow. Starting over now would just be a knee jerk reaction.
This point keeps coming up, but it overlooks the very good possibility--or probability-that the coach is awful and the team is going nowhere under him, no matter how many years he has. Marrone was junior varsity, and Rex is a clown. Yes, continuity is important, but you want continuity with a good coach, not a bad one. So keep the "Continuity!" argument for when someone competent is in place, ok?
I keep hoping Pegula had the sense to put a clause in Ryan's contract that stipulated playoffs in the first year or the contract is void. A blowhard like Ryan would have signed it in a flash, and it would make firing the fool much easier.
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It is hard for fans, media, etc. to separate the drought from what is happening now. To look at this team differently than the one in 2010, 2005, and 2000 because the outcome was the same. But it is, obviously, different.
Except that it isn't different, obviously. "It's just (fill in the blank)'s first year! Give him time. Look, he brought in different schemes, and the players have to adjust!" Sixteen years of this, YoloinOhio, and you say it's different this year? The burden of proof is on you to back up your claim, not on those who think it is exactly more of the same.
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It wasn't funny the second third or fourth times you tried to insult me either, tough guy. How about you grow up and stop being a jerk?
Everyone is operating on the assumption that nothing happened to Boobie. Where is the evidence of this?
Fair question. I'm basing my comment on what Ryan has said in the past about "doing something" about penalties and later revealing that push ups were his solution, and Robie's recent comment. Here's the quote: '“In your mind, you’re like ‘Yo, it has to stop one day. It has to stop one day.’ You see us at practice every day,” Robey said. “The push-ups. The wristbands. We have to wake up one day and it just has to stop. We can’t talk about it anymore. The talking is over, the talking is over. We have to just do it.”'
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can someone please !@#$ing explain precisely what a coach is supposed to do?
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Let me explain, since you keep asking this question. A player like Dixon is irritated and wants to do something stupid. If Belichick is his coach he checks his impulse because he has learned, down to his socks, that bad things will happen to him if he indulges himself. With a coach like Ryan no such lesson stops his impulse. What has Ryan taught him about penalties? That he will have to do push ups if he commits them? That he will get a good talking to when he gets home, young man?
Most penalties are committed unconsciously, and it's on unconscious level the coach has to get through to his players. Disciplined play has to become part of the player's on-field identity. Belicheat demands a professional identity, the Clown tolerates--and essentially encourages, I would argue--self indulgence. By asserting the players are "grown men," you're assuming that grown men are rational and will behave responsibly on their own, or even against the grain of what they're learning from their coach. But I don't think that's the case.
So what should a coach do? He should not tolerate stupid penalties. If discipline entails pulling a starter or benching him for a game or even the season, it's worth it. The Clown doesn't know or believe that, which is why the Bills will be the most penalized team in NFL history.
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Special teams in general have been abysmal. One of the qualities I admired about Marv Levy was his commitment to special teams, meaning he devoted precious practice time to them and stocked them with first-rate players. Rex? Add this to his many, many deficiencies. What possessed Pegula? The one playoff run by the Jets? His "fun" personality? He's the Trump of the NFL.
Why not two quarterbacks in Round One?
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Like many of you, I've gotten my hopes up for every starting qb the Bills have had since Kelly: Collins, Losman, Edwards, Fitzpatrick, Manuel... the list is too painful to complete. Combine it with qb busts from other teams, especially the first-rounders, and it's plain that drafting a qb is a crap shoot. We have two first-round picks this year in a supposedly qb-rich draft. Why not use both on a qb? Take whichever of the Big Four drops to 12 (looks like one might) and take whoever drops still further--say, Lamar Jackson--with the 22nd. The stakes are about as high as they could be. You know the drill: we draft X, who shows promise! Ok, he's not great, but he needs time! Ok, he's had time, but he needs to be surrounded by better talent! A better D! A new scheme! And the years go by. This way, the Bills double their chances of a hit. Yes, it's asking for a quarterback controversy, but I'll take that over four years of "Just give E.J. a chance!" And if both (or all three) qb's look good, ship one or two away to get the picks back. Yet we know Beane is unlikely to do so. Why?