[Freedom Convoy eh]

8 minutes ago, LeviF said:

 

If, for the sake of argument, you concede every point in my post, what other option do they have?

 

The Prime Minister, whose party obtained less than 1/3rd of the popular vote in their most recent elections, is rapidly consolidating power to his office, seizing assets without due process, and repeatedly doubling down to the point of threatening military action against his own citizens. An apology and a roadmap out of the current mandates, which have no demonstrable public health benefit, would have solved this weeks ago. But, as I said earlier, this regime appears to believe that any defeat, including an apology, may collapse the entire power structure. Do these actions appear to belong to the mindset of an opponent who wants to avoid war? And when your opponent tells you that the only way out of your situation is violence towards him or harm to yourself, which does a rational man choose?

 

These aren't easy questions but they become very simple questions once you start cornering people.

In my mind, they are trying to avoid cornering 

[Freedom Convoy eh]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

Well said. Does anyone think that if these very same truck drivers were doing the very same thing but instead had pro-Trudeau signs on their trucks, that the government would deem it an emergency? I think not. Maybe the truckers should adopt their own Let’s Go Brandon slogan. 

Ok SoCal.

Streets where people live and unable to sleep, park their cars, drive to their homes have been held captive for 19 days. Thus is not in a place like the Washingtin monu. 

The need for the Act is ridiculous, but supported by all political parties, a feat that us impossible in Washington.

Yes Trudeau is a wimp, but has fairly treated the protesting citizens,  but the time has come to allow other citizens to return to their homes.

[Freedom Convoy eh]

9 hours ago, BillStime said:

Thus… yawn 

You don't recall Geraldos incredible claim to fame, the SAFE. He has no cred, especially since he owes his very existence to trump.

[Freedom Convoy eh]

54 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Wait, what @Niagara Bill????

 

Geraldo calling out the US Taliban for inciting Canadian truckers?

 

Al Capone has invested his money in thus trucking blockade....

[Freedom Convoy eh]

3 hours ago, Westside said:

Well, since you asked. I wouldn’t have called them racist nazi’s to start. The truckers seem willing to work with the local authorities and moved when asked. I would end the stupid mandate, open the borders and stop all the nonsense of playing dictator. This could have easily been prevented if the government was willing to actually listen to its citizens and real science. 
I will always be on the side of freedom, even if it makes things temporarily difficult for some. To me, freedom is more important. 

So, 100 people and trucks is allowed to force the gov to change direction. Not!

88% of people listened to the government and only a few did not. So you give in to the few. The rules are coming to an end, give in to rebels? Never!

You have no idea what freedom means. Anarchy is not freedom. A small % cannot over rule the vast majority. 

A dictator would gave used force a long time ago.I am not a Trudeau fan, but patience has been good so far. 

[Freedom Convoy eh]

On 2/15/2022 at 11:27 AM, Westside said:

This pandemic has brought out the liberals true colors. 

So, Westside, if you were Pres or Gov, regardless of party, and protesters held a portion of your capital city hostage for 1 or 2 weeks, what exactly would you do? It is a non violent scene, much different that the riots and looting in LA. 

So, since you obviously have superior intelligence, let us know.

1 hour ago, JaCrispy said:

No one bargains with terrorists...😉

 

 

Difficult, but the mayor did, but leadership is not obvious in the protesters. Kind of like a big tailgate, only fir 3 weeks. They actually gave 3 portable saunas on site.

On 2/15/2022 at 4:27 PM, BillStime said:

👆🤡

 

True colors?

 

Idiots

 

 

And WTF do Republicans have to do with Canada? 

[Biden's follies]

16 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Mocking people with mental illness is not a good look.

Someone should gave told trump that...auuuugggh

[Are you losing interest in the NFL ?]

After 17 yrs a season ticket holder, I swore during the Jauron era J was finished. Fans were 100% more passionate than that wet blanket. 

Slowly I was dragged back in, but never never ever will I allow myself the full passion I once felt. 

Josh has given me opportunity for hope and enjoyment loses still hurt but nothing like pre Jauron. 

[All Roads Lead to the Ukraine]

58 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now we know Rhinos new assignment

[Freedom Convoy eh]

Emergency Measures Act invoked in Canada by Trudeau. Gives feds power and overrides civil liberties.

As a Canadian I say a weak leader who does not engage his citizens in times   like these hides behind laws.

Except for a gang in Alberta who had guns etc, most folks have been peaceful.

A real leader would not hide from his citizens. Trudeau has shown his cowardice. These are not Buffalo headress wearers. Most are family folks.

The protest is out of hand, but this us a lack of skilled leadership, something sorely missing in NA.

I expect failure and escalation.  As a teen from the 60s. OHIO. 

 

7 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

I wanted to thumbs up your post but not everything.  So thumbs up on this.  I agree 100%.  👍

Protestors nit about money

[Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦]

6 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Zelensky can’t let Russia disrupt the Ukrainian economy, that only serves Russian interests. Biden is effectively standing up to Putin and trying to stop a war and the crushing of a republic 

So his need to complain about not enough black head coaches in  the NFL on SB Sunday,  is just camouflage to his secret behind the scene pressure on Putin.

12 months ago I thought Biden had a knowledge of behind the scene bargaining, I was soooo wrong. AOC runs him, Even Nancy is quiet and running away in this woke culture Biden has bought into.

[Biden's Foreign Policy Already GettING Results]

So, consider our leaders?. 

The two most powerful and dangerous people in the world, meet at the Olympics, and Biden and Trudeau take a symbolic stance and refuse to attend. What happened to being close to your enemy. How can you influence more, with an insult of someone who doesn't care, or participation. Nose to nose is how to deal with this. Feels like Chamberlan.

Allowing those two to be seen running the show is stupid. Roosevelt, Nixon, Reagan showed leadership. These guys are imposters. 

In the mean time Trudeau watches peaceful protests on his front door and neither engages with his citizens or responds.

And Biden is worried about the number of black head coaches in the NFL, calling it  unacceptable!!!  Rather than worry about a new war, he cuddles up to AOC.  Wow, we are in trouble. 

[Freedom Convoy eh]

11 hours ago, Buffarukus said:

 

its interesting that you use alot of nuance to the pandemic response/factors, which is a good thing. im not sure that would explain things as most of your factors can be erased simply by switching to a location that is more similar like California. we should see a significant difference when the approaches were not slightly different, they were completely opposite. i think the answer is when you give people access to options they generally know how to take care of there health and saftey just as much then when the gov forces them on people. so the only absolute i see is alot of economic destruction, segregation and division. the data is not  confirming it is worth that damage. you know about the study done by johns hopkins that says exactly that correct? 

 

https://www.americanexperiment.org/a-closer-look-at-the-johns-hopkins-lockdown-study/

 

there is also a study on the ineffectiveness of masks by the cdc. just put it on people in this very thread are saying. go right ahead, the cdc itself conflicts with that.

 

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/cdc-admits-cloth-masks-ineffective-armstrong-economics

 

natural immunity is far superior then vaccines. there are multiple studies that have made this conclusion. regardless how long it lasts that should EXEMPT people that are declared unvaxed and DEFINITELY stop them from taking their jobs away. 

 

studies, data, science, facts. all things that we were told would be used.

 

so at what point does society admit that at best, it has a very flimsy standing to uphold the mandates? they need to be based on a very solid data stating they are absolutley effective. otherwise how is it not totalitarian? if thats true how do you not stand on the side fighting against it with the truckers. all they are asking is to be left alone and allowed to make their own decisions for their families. its really sad when that is compared to a terroristic threat. 

1. First the truckers may want to be left alone....but in reality they are NOT alone. Join the rest of society in the battle.

2. 1 finger in front if your face stops more virus than none, your hand in front of your face stops more than 1 finger, a mask stops more than your hand. Simple process. Always amazing how you pick and choose which CDC reports you want to accept. Suddenly there is no corruption or conspiracy. 

3. Firing people is ridiculous and the courts will show that eventually, but stopping them from working temporarily is not stupid for society as a whole. When TB was a concern people who could be carriers were isolated until the disease could be understood. This virus is young and new, this is a societal challenge not about freedom. When measles spread anyone who came into contact with the infection had to isolate and not attend work. We lacked knowledge. People spent more time on China/Fauci conspiracies or bleach in your veins. 

4. People can make a decision, but with every decision comes responsibility and consequences. They are fellow citizens and deserve respect, but others deserve there respect as well. 

 

[SB Halftime show]

Would I be out of line to suggest that a couple of them could have been with KL Cool J on lipsync. Maybe could even have won and received praise from Chrissy T.

[Freedom Convoy eh]

26 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Your utter lack of logic is beyond stunning! I’m at a loss as to where to even start. 🙄

Logic is good if you have no problem wearing a simple mask to the grocery store. 

Do you drive with an open container of beer in Cali to flaunt the law which us trying to protect people, when there us freedom to have open containers in some counties in the country?

[Freedom Convoy eh]

20 minutes ago, Westside said:

Who knows what the real death count is? Did they die from covid or with covid?

How anyone can’t see how politically motivated it’s been since the beginning is being deliberately obtuse.

Agreed, but YOUR statement of death count being wrong is political. Almost every death has more than 1 cause, so this is nothing more than trying to justify ignoring 950,000. Some would have died by drunk drivers, but that doesn't matter because at the time they had a heart condition. That is a political self serving position.

If I guessed wrong and a vaccine causes brain cancer in 50% of those who got 3 doses I am wrong and will live with it ( OR DIE WITH IT). But for those who yelled FREEDOM, without thought for their fellow citizens, there may be a special place for them in the future.

[Freedom Convoy eh]

7 minutes ago, Buffarukus said:

 

no belief necessary! that the problem! after all that has been discovered how you can come to such a stringent set of decisions. freedom or death? as if making such a decision will result in a outcome when its been repeatedly shown that's not the case. those are simplistic viewpoints spouted by mainstream media. the fact so many have not investigated on their own, as censored as it is, and fall in line relying on belief and orders from the gov that make no sense and yet demand those that don't are the ones who should be punished is what is terrafying as those type of people can be manipulated and will go against anything they are told.

 

simply ask yourself basic questions is all it takes.

 

why did states that allow freedom not result in far more deaths? this fact alone ends any notion that truckers are not justified. can you answer it?

 

natural immunity is FAR more superior to any vax when it come to developing antibodies and yet these people can't get a exemption? why? what % of people with far better defence to this virus are considered in the "anti vax" group that the government say we must make higher or the public has decided are "dangerous"

 

when it comes to what this is about. i think its about power but more importantly understanding that admitting to being wrong puts alot of economic and phycological destruction on people who made the wrong choices. all while slandering/censoring those who did.  

 

Death rate by state is far more complicated than is DeSantis a genius and Cuomo a nut. Living conditions, group home deaths, living outdoors vs indoors, vaccine rates, outdoor venues vs indoor, sub ways vs cars, apartments vs homes, international visitors, medical readiness etc etc. 

Natural immunity to Delta was certainly more costly in deaths than omicron. Immunity is likely impossible as it is with the flu or cold virus. Just hope the next version is weaker yet than omicron. If Delta had remained or returns the deaths will be heavy. Immunity lasts only months, either way. Vaxxed or not.

Saving life's for me is more important jn the short term than certain limitations.

My short term is years, yours might be days. Would you isolate for 14 days to safe your life and others, or 30 days or 6 months. Hmmmm. In the end screw the politics and corruption poop. 

19 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

You are a buffoon.

 

                      

 

People killed and property/businesses destroyed

 

 

                                                

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And where in Canada did this burning occur. Is Rhino back creating again.

Me thinks you are full of it. 

[Freedom Convoy eh]

On 2/12/2022 at 12:09 PM, Westside said:

It’s never really been about the virus. It’s about power and corruption. The Democratic Party I grew up with and was a member of, would have embraced this protest against racism and tyranny. Instead we (D) let the morally bankrupt politicians and there mentally challenged supporters like billstime and tibs take control.

 I don’t think the Democratic Party can ever recover from this. 
 

If the far left on this board really cared about the workers, they would be supporting this movement. But just like POC, they recognize them only when they need to be re-elected. 
 

It’s a damn shame!

Hard for me to see that this was not about the virus. It was about what? China labs, Fauci planned this to be rich, Pfizer wanted global control, trump needed a drum to beat, dems needed election issue, Putin needed this, the taliban wanted to get US out so they created a virus...hmmmmm. yeh, politics are involved, it us 2019, 20, 21, 22...wtf else could you expect. Believe Fauci or bleach in your blood stream.

The judgement here is between what your belief is, deaths or freedoms.

Where s the cross over, 950,000 deaths is not enough, so 950,001 or if no effort was made for vaccines, masks, shutdowns etc, 1,500,000 or 3,000,000 or many more? Risk? What is your investment strategy.

I know you will not answer this question because a decision is required not dogma.

If the virus would have threatened 100,000 deaths in US, or1,000 in Canada,  I would agree with you, but I choose to listen and accept that millions could die, and see the necessity for many measures. 

[Freedom Convoy eh]

These has been great protests, slightly confusing over the issue, but the longer it lasts the more it becomes apparent that Trudeau has been terrible communicator, especially to those on the fringe of support. A real trail out of these rules needs to be clear.

The best is the peaceful nature, with a few exceptions. Thank goodness that horrid groups like BLM have stayed home. With no violence and looting the protesters have made considerable political points with the population and politicians. Congrats to them. Congrats to the relationship between civil citizens and the police. 

While I don't support some of their positions I have huge respect in how the point has been made.

[Focus On The Offense Draft]

Lot of needs to come. Dline, CB, WR?, Oline, RB, could all use some major help. 

The draft focus may depend on free agents. If we can get a defensive end or a major online immediate help then focus becomes clear.

A rookie CB, or RB can play right away, a rookie WR can really help support our great starters. 

[Freedom Convoy eh]

On 2/7/2022 at 7:59 PM, dpberr said:

To me, the convoy story is about a complete breakdown in leadership and how feckless the Prime Minister and that entire government is, including the legislature.  The Canadian Prime Minister has been hiding for over a week from his own people.   He literally fled the capital.  

 

 

 

 

Now, I dislike Trudeau, but if this is about breakdown in leadership, then by extension Jan 6 was a breakdown in leadership by trump. OR ?

[The January 6th Commission To Investigate The Insurrection]

I thought Rosemary's Woods retired! Did Nicon actually leave the WH or was that helicopter and illusion?

Telephone records missing on Jan6....oh no!

[He's Officially "Saint Doug" Once Again]

Thank goodness they did quit! Can you imagine if they stayed.

[Newsweek: Biden administration using taxpayer dollars to distribute crack pipes because...equity!]

Always amazed by the logic of free needles, a warm place to shoot up and easy laws so when I get caught stealing to pay for my drugs. 

When equality means we are different and therefore give me something to show how under privileged I am! Don't treat me as inferior but give me opportunity to drag myself down easier?

 

If democracies could reduce the number of social worker degrees we might solve a problem not create a new industry every year to cater to under privileged. 

 

Ok, there is my rant for today.

[Freedom Convoy eh]

40 minutes ago, wnyguy said:

You may be right about some morons showing up and causing trouble at some point which would be sad to see. For now though it seems the protest has overwhelming support from the Canadian populace and, though we hear almost nothing about this in our MSM, it is a very nice thing to behold.

Support is not overwhelming, just silent majority is watching. Not many of the majority will ho into the cold when we are already leaving restrictions behind. In Ontario, 89% if people are fully vaxed. Strange for truckers to start a protest against needing fully vaxxec to come back to Canada without quarantine when they need to be fully vaxxed to enter US? So the protest reasons have changed. Hope it remains peaceful. Majority if Canadians do not love Trudeau, but right-wing conservatives are Wacko, like trumpers and cannot gain support of middle.