mike1011

Probably because it makes sense. I wouldn't give him 2 games, I would give me 4 games at least. We know what we have with JP. He's a 3 year vet who isn't showing much mentally during a game. He hasn't put up a dominant performance once in a game, forget a really solid game. Sometimes seeing what you have may make a difference. Call it craziness, but some people are sane. If you think JP is the future of the Bills please tell us why. We can say he's not, and the COULD FACTOR is better than the NOT HAVING ANYTHING FACTOR.

Wow!!! A realistic post with insights that are accurate and unbiased. We have to face the facts, there are no perfect lines, and the Indy game was proof of it when Peyton was getting flushed and almost sacked every 5 seconds. Their line is horrible right now, and the running game is proof. Addai looks talented, but not behind that O-line.

Both Losman and Schaub have been in the league for 3 years. Next, Schaub is younger. I'm not an advocate for Schaub, we might have a clone-like Schaub in Nall. They play similar football. Try Nall first.

Tampa's line has stifled the run almost to a halt. Gradkowski is getting killed but getting rid of the ball more often than not. I wouldn't put their line above ours. Simms was hospitalized, Cadillac is driving like a Pontiac, and Gradkowski is running for his life and throwing the ball quickly. Lastly, did anyone see the presence of Seneca Wallace? I just want one Seneca Wallace game by JP where he gets a 14 point half and 125 yards by half-time. Wallace and the Seahawks just ran out the ball as best as possible. When I'm pointing at Wallace and Gradkowski as decent in comparison to JP it makes me state all the more clearly, if JP wasn't a 1st rounder he would be called decent depth at this point and nothing more. Nall has to be given some shot after next week. Then again if he lights up the joint maybe all of us have been blind and didn't see his football intuition which was latent and just blossoms... we can all dream can't we? Go Bills!!!

Didn't you know? Only Buffalo receivers drop passes and no other QBs stats wouldn't be better if their receiver because every receiver in the NFL never drops a pass.

He needs too much time to throw, his motion is too long, and he needs to much (e.g. Bledsoe) to be successful. Take away his D-fense and he's average.

And look at you now!!! I'm from Lake George and I'm always in Clifton Park. I'm looking at renting some office space on Halfmoon Executive Park, but it's all in negotiation.

The same set-back as Joey Harrington and the Lions? If only they waited for Joey's development they too could have 3 Ints per game.

You are correct, I lumped them together improperly. I assumed by the words of Pyrite of the Johnson project. No one considered a good game by Kelly when he didn't fumble, threw for 120 yards with no touchdowns. Kelly first year in the NFL: 1986 buf | 16 | 285 attempts 480 completions 59.4% completions 3593 yards 22 TDs 17 Ints Losman is scheduled for 14 TDs, 13 Ints, 2930 yards. We are happy when he doesn't fumble, I don't we had such low expectations for Kelly at all. Oh yeah, Kelly had 7 fumbles that year, JP is on pace for 16. Of course I said none of that. Nall will need to learn, but why give him such a long learning curve. Great connection of thought. High degrees of deductive logic. You should take a class in dialectics before you continue on your mythical tirade of debating nothing of what the other person said. All I'm saying is see what we have with Nall for a several games. We don't lose anything, but the upside (if it exists) is greater than continuing to see if JP learns how not to fumble. Great upside, little risk at this point.

Lest we forget that he stank against the Jets and half his yards were in the 4th against a prevent defense. 300 yards is great, but have 200 with 2 TDs by the end of the 4th. Most 300 yard performances that are considered great works of art by a QB are mostly 3 quarter performances with running out the 4th. I watched the game and Losman was below average until the 4th.

Don't drive angry, I hate it when you drive angry. Great movie!!! The JP love-fest is Bill Murray's finest movie.

McGahee: 3.8 ypc Thomas: 4.8 ypc McGahee has only went over 4 yards per carry in one game vs. the Jets. That's ONE GAME! Whenever it happens people blame the box from being crowded. Well what do you think the Packers were doing with the QB has only 100 yards passing? McGahee wouldn't have done what Thomas did. There is no statistical evidence to back that up.

Let's ask this question hypothetically: -What do you have to lose with Nall starting with 4 games after Indy? -Either he plays good quick passes and looks Bulger-esque in Fairchild's system or -He plays like garbage and we keep watching Losman play Pyrite mentioned Brad Johnson as a development that was given up too soon. I digress, he stank. He only won for Tampa Bay because he played fairly conservative on an awesome defense and strong running game. Lest we forget Johnson played for the Redskins and Vikings for around 8 years before he got to the promised land with TB. No one credits 1st rounder Dilfer either. Remember both are 1st rounders with a different team. Where do I see Losman becoming and developing into? Bledsoe with athletic ability. Million dollar arm, 2 cent head. He's trying hard not to fumble the ball. That's after 3 years and we are still working on the fundamentals of wrapping up the ball. People can learn on the bench. Romo looks better than Losman, and so did Brady and where did they learn before they started? For all your Losman Lovers... I'm a Buffalo Bills fan, not a Losman fan. If Nall can do better for the TEAM, then yes, I want the TEAM to play better. Losman is a very poor man's Steve Young. If he was just a poor man's version of Young (Brunell late 90's) I'd love it, but he's a very poor version with no vision. Sure we might just be 6-10 with Nall maybe win one more game. But we could find out we have a good enough QB next year to not invest more time in "developing" another QB. I'll take a QB who might be able to throw 210 yards a game (average) with 1-2 TDs a game over what we have - which is no offense and a QB still working on fundamentals.

So if you add 10,000 posts to my name it makes sense? Either what I said makes sense or it doesn't. The quantitative degree of posts doesn't make anyone right or wrong. I can discuss football with or without a lot of posts on this board. I was with the standard buffalobills.com board until it became a board full of juveniles. From what I see, people can actually discuss football on this board (well, most of the time).

Can someone please tell me when Willis hit a homerun in a game? For all his juking he goes no where. A-Train will be better for one reason: he has a reason to play hard. Willis is coasting right now and feels secure until next year when it's contract time. A Train is playing as a teammate. Pyrite if you think the team is playing harder for A Train you're crazy. It's like saying the O-line plays better for back-up QBs too. A Train was just better than Willis. Willis isn't that great, and he has no great stats to show for it either. He's mediocre at best right now.

JP's problems can be summarized in an analogous way to Bledsoe: -If we had a better O-line -Better receivers (minus 2002) -Too long in the pocket -Fumbles too much Now what's the downside to starting Nall at this point? We hurt JP's feelings? When guys like the 6th round Gradkowski have a better grasp of the NFL at this point we have to start asking why not look at Nall for a few games before we waste another season on ineptness. -Brady throws to the worst receiving core in the entire NFL, they get separation. Price, Reed, Evans are better than Caldwell, Brown, and the other no-names. -Gradkowski is playing with 4 games experience and has better #s with a shaky O-line. The difference is he plays high % passes with a quick release on 3 step drops. -Lienart looked good that one night where he got rid of the ball quickly and accurately against the Bears with 3 step drops. Facts are good QBs make the players look better around them. JP has progressed since last year but he lacks so much football intuition he looks like an athletic version of Bledsoe with less accuracy on passes over 15 yards. Nall might not be the answer, but at this point we are throwing away the possibility of seeing if we have something with Nall (forget Holcomb, we know his capacities). What have we got to lose? JP isn't on a weekly progression chart so it's not like he's going to regress, and his progression isn't growing exponentially. It's time to see if these team has other options at QB this year. JP might be good someday, but Nall might be better. A 4 week trial period is fair-enough. It gives JP enough time to clear his head, check our options and move forward for next year. I really believe if he wasn't a 1st rounder people would be far less lenient. People would be calling him decent depth and a good shoe in. Give him a 1st round tag and we want to waste 2 more years on him. Sorry, but guys who sit the pine do learn the game (Culpepper, McNair, Romo, et al.). It's time for him to learn and try our other options or expend the rest of the team, alienate the offensive players who want stats for contractual reasons, and see our full options. Nall might not be the answer, but we have to see. If he doesn't we go back to status quo. I believe this should happen after Indy next week. To me it's low-risk with potential high rewards. GO BILLS!!!

Why not start Nall after next week? JP's going to get killed and starting Nall at least shows us if we have any hope at all. If not the status quo will continue. I also like the A Train's effort. When your offense if offensive it's time to change something. The miniscule amount of yardage we picked up is scary. It's not just the scheme, it's the players who are just not performing.

When Gradkowski, Romo, et al. are playing better ball than JP there comes a time when you just know it's time to TRY Nall. Pulling a QB isnt the worst loss. It worked for many a coach, and many a coach got the QB who sat more motivated. What motivation do you have to focus if you are guaranteed to come back some more to flub it up? You stick Nall in for 4 games, give JP some time off and if Nall flubs it up we tried.