vorpma
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French Toast Please
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Good post!
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Really great guy and very humble. Wish a blue sky and tail wind wherever he goes!
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I think it was early spring, 1998, I entered a gas station close to the Nashville Airport to pay for a fuel purchase. The cashier and two men were laughing and mentioned the Bills and Jim Kelly. They told me Jim Kelly just purchased gas and when in the store they recognized him and gave him the business about the four SB losses. He got kind of mad and stormed out, I had to laugh too.
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Andre Reed belongs in the HOF, I have to wonder if those that disagree actually watched Andre play from 85 - 99, not only do statistics validate his selection but the clutch plays over the years support this.
Read a post that Joe Namath does not belong - I watched Joe Wille play and vividly remember 1968 and his bold guarantee of victory. It's an AFL thing, if you had the great honor of following the AFL you will understand.
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If the Bills beat KC, and went on to win the 1st superbowl, would it be called the Lou Saban Trophy?
Awesome point!!
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Excellent post, if you look at the Bills over the last ten years the major problem on the defensive side of the ball is sloppy tackling!!
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Daydreaming it is!! This team is not in the process of turning things around at this point in time.
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My friend, I admire your loyalty but you are a dreamer!!!
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Great response!! You have to get use to some of the posts on this board, I know the feeling.Your posts are always so informative and insightful. You also seem like a really upbeat kind of guy. You're truly an asset to this board.
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Why, when you have the smartest and greatest minds in the history of the NFL, do you still ignore the advice / nonsensical ramblings of Two Bills Drive members?
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OK, I guess we can close this thread now. Thank you for your informative post.
Typical response from the really "informed fans"!"
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The magic answer is that there is no magic answer. The Bills have sucked for a very VERY long time and sadly it is going to take some time to get back to respectability. Unless Manuel somehow transforms into the second coming of Jim Kelly this offseason and Spiller becomes an every down back, that's just the way it is.
Could not have said it better; they have been a bad organization - Drafting, Scouting, FO, FA, coaching - for over ten years.
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I think the Bills should be in a division with Cleveland, Pitt and Detroit. Local fans could easily drive to road games.
I think mass re alignment is a good idea. There are a bunch of natural rivalries the NFL could take advantage of.
I like it, a Great Lakes Division - Buffali, Cleveland, Chicago, Detroit, Pittsburgh; a new black and blue conference. Great post.
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Good post!Players can play or they can't. Coaching makes a difference, but whether Manuel turns into a solid pro is 80% him. Give the coaches 20%.
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I've been following the Bills since 1966. I can assure you that winning does not guarantee sell outs. Can you imagine a home playoff game being blacked out? Well no one in Buffalo saw the greatest comeback game on TV. Heck, Ralph Wilson had to buy the remaining tickets to a home AFC championship game against the Cheifs!
Sure, the first year or two of the SB run RWS was packed. But people's expectations keep going up. Whatever you did in one year was not enough the next. After losing two SB's Bills fans started to cool off.
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Buffalo's economy and the weather can impact playoff games; the greatest comback game was played right after the holidays during a poor economy. In addition the Bills were spanked by the Oilers during the last game of the season and lost Jim Kelly to injury, it appeared the Bills were running out of gas from two Super Bowl losses. I have to agree that a winning - playoff team will fill 99 percent of your seats and sell merchandise - the best marketing strategy available!!
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It seems to me that a lot of people on this board had unrealistic expectations about this team. It has led to all of the "fire everyone", "cut or trade everyone", and "whaaaa" threads. At the beginning of the season I thought we MIGHT win 6 or 7 games by splitting with the Phins and Jets, then beating Cleveland, KC, Jacksonville, Carolina, and possibly Tampa. This team is pretty much where I expected them to be win/loss wise even though we didn't beat a couple of the teams I thought we would and there are still 3 games left. Let's break down what we actually have here in Buffalo.
Let us begin by taking a look at the coaching staff. We have a rookie NFL head coach. Doug Marrone has some quality experience in the NFL as he served under Herm Edwards in NY and was Sean Payton's OC/OL Coach in New Orleans from 2006-2008. Everyone wants to throw him under the bus already. He hasn't even had a full season, not to mention he has had an often injured ROOKIE QB, an UNDRAFTED FA ROOKIE QB, and a QB that came over late in the process having to learn a new offense while trying to build a rapport with new players. He inherited a 6-10 team people, not a 10-6 team like Trestman. I do question some of the guys on his staff, mainly the ST Coordinator is a bum if you ask me, but everyone else is going to have the same growing pains because of what we have under Center. With the DC, Mike Pettine, you knew what you were going to get. I love the direction of the defense. We are more than likely going to break the team's single season sack record under Pettine's tutelage. Bottom line, Doug Whaley and Doug Marrone will work together through this next offseason to get the players that they feel we need to win. If you think these guys don't want to win then you are insane. This is their job, their reputation, and their livelihoods are on the line here.
Now let us take a look at the offensive side of the football. All of these guys are learning a new offense. As stated in the above paragraph, we have started 2 ROOKIE QB's and a guy with VERY LITTLE experience overall who not to mention didn't have a full TC to even attempt to learn the system. Even still this team has been extremely competitive. The losses of Andy Levitre and Joe D'Alessandris are the most evident for our team from last season to this one. The OL play outside of Cordy Glenn has been inconsistent at best. This is what mainly needs to be upgraded. We need to find at least two quality starters and quality depth for the OL this offseason. If we go into next year with an OL situation as screwed up as this year's then it will be a train wreck all over again. We have two good, if not great, RB's in Fred Jackson and CJ Spiller, but if the OL is not performing at a solid/consistent level then those guys are going to struggle. Some of you may scream, "Well, Doug Marrone was an OL coach in New Orleans and he should be able to fix this immediately!!!" I will say look what he had to work with in New Orleans. Stevie Johnson is the only veteran WR that our corp has. That's it. Everyone else is is young and inexperienced. I have gone on record saying that we should trade Stevie, but only if we are offered a 3rd or better. His inconsistency, drops, and turnovers at crucial moments of games have been EXTREMELY frustrating along with the fact he is often injured. Doesn't mean I don't like him, but I just expected more from our #1 WR. If he is still in the fold when next season rolls around I won't be disappointed because I still like him as a player. I love the young WR's we have in Robert Woods and Marquise Goodwin. Both of them have shown flashes this year of what is to come I believe and their future looks bright. I do believe that our TE situation needs an upgrade. Chandler is servicable, but he should be a backup that is on the field for two TE sets and as a redzone threat because of his size. He is easily in the bottom third of the league as far as starting TE's go. Moeaki and Gragg could very well be the answer @ the TE position for us, but we will not know until they get their chance in the offense. Even then their production still depends on the guy who is under Center. Everything I talk about here, minus the dropped passes and fumbles of course, hinge on two things. They hinge on the performance of our OL and QB. It is up to our FO to get the personnel we need, the coaching staff to help them grow as players, and then to put them into situations that they can succeed. We don't have the right pieces yet on our offense in key areas.
Now to the defense. Wow, what a difference a year and a DC makes. Everyone will still cry about how we can't stop anyone from running the football, but atleast we have gotten the pass rush right. We went from 18th in the league last year to LEADING THE NFL this season. A healthy Mario Williams and Kyle Williams along with the additions of Jerry Hughes and Manny Lawson have made a difference in getting to the QB. I love Pettine and his attacking style defense. Dareus has also stepped up his level of play this year. It seems we got a steal in the second round with the selection of Kiko Alonso. I also can't believe how reliable McKelvin has been for the most part. The defense is surely headed in the right direction. IF, and I say IF, we can re-sign Byrd this offseason then this defense is one CB and a couple LB's away from being top 5. If we get a couple of guys who can get off of blocks and smack RB's in the mouth @ the LB spot along with another good CB the AFC East is in trouble. I truly believe that. This all hinges on whether we can keep Pettine or not. Part of me worries that he will bolt for another team. Either way, as of right now, this defense looks to be on the rise.
Now to the ST. Fire the coach. Start over. Marquise Goodwin is really fast. Dan Carpenter has been a find for us.
If you expected us to make the playoffs this year then you were sadly mistaken. If you expected Doug Marrone and Nathaniel Hackett to be able to work miracles with 3 inexperienced QB's (two rookies and one newbie), this OL, and a mainly inexperienced group of WR's in a new system then you were sadly mistaken. If you expected that our rookie/newbie QB's would not have any kind of growing pains this year then you were sadly mistaken. If you thought one Kiko Alonso was enough to take on any and all blockers while still stopping the RB @ or behind the line of scrimmage then you were sadly mistaken. If you thought that unrealistic expectations did not lead to disappointment then you were sadly mistaken. Chin up Bills fans, the future IS looking bright in Buffalo regardless of what all the Nancy's would want you to believe. Happy game day.
I am guilty as charged; however I stand by my contention that Bills are not a winning organization with an ingrained losing culture that may take several years to change. Sorry, Buddy Nix, Russ Brandon and the scouting department have been a total failure - look at are drafts and FA aquisitions. We have several plyers that are above average at best and many players that if/when they finally depart will fade into oblivion like many others. Not sold on Mario Williams!! That being said, I give Marone and Whaley time to fix this dismal NFL team that has not been successful since 1999; I just get tired of this board thinking we are going to the playoffs because we beat the Ravens or Jets.
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You are correct, we beat the Patriots led by rookie Jim Plunket in a mud bowl at the Rockpile for the only win. Talk about a painful season.Very good read Ken.
I may be wrong, but I don't believe the lone win in 71 was the Dolphins....pretty sure we were 0 for the 70s no?
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Think about this; in 1971 the Bills had Heaven Moses, Marlin Briscoe, Bobby Chandler, and JD Hill as wide receivers. All four were serious threats, then we had OJ with a great blocking FB - Jimmy Braxton yet still went 1 and 13.
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How about the Bills win games. If they started being good, you'd see more fans.
It's not exactly a mystery why the Patriots and Steelers have so many fans right now, both teams have been good for a decade+.
Dallas has a huge fanbase too, and they are usually pretty good (and absolutely dominant during certain eras).
Winning sells tickets. Winning sells jerseys.
Right on Dorkington - the best posting on this board in a long time.
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The Buffalo Bills are not a good football team simply because the Buffalo Bills organization has been a failure since 2000. This team is plagued by horrible drafts, poor free agent aquisition, horrible coaghing on the field during game day for ten years, and poor coaching and development of younger players. Finally this team is hostage to a losing culture that continues to choke success - an above average team would be 8 - 4 at this point.
I do not blame the current coaching staff or at this point Whaley, however, the 2014 draft is owned by Whaley - hope the current scouting department is up to it.
Greg Williams, Mike Mularkey, Dick Jauron and Chad Gailey are not household names in the NFL and the Bills who have left the team for whatever reason have not become household names in the NFL.
The GM situation, Marv Levy and Buddy Nix - need I say more.
This team has a long way to go, not going to happen next year either.
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We should be called the buffalo tampons. We are only good for one period and we don't have a second string
Awesome, I love it. This really sums it up perfectly.
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I am a knowledgeable and informed football expert that contributes real insight to this board.
This is great - I love it. Have a great Thanksgiving, you defintely got a laugh out of me!!!
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Too early to tell people!!!
Bellicheck in his first HC job was run out of Cleveland - do you think they may want to have that decision back?
Totally agree, coaching staff needs time; it's the front office I am concerned about and ten years of lousy drafting. Sorry, not sold on our current number one draft choice. Maybe it is Buddy's parting gift.
Jerry Sullivan 25th anniversary column in today's Buffalo News
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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