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Should we already be showing "real dissatisfaction" with McDermott and the 2017 Bills? Have they already been eliminated from playoff contention? How about we wait until they play one game before we pack it in?Sad day when people are too lazy and compliant to show real dissatisfaction any more.. Just a bunch of sheep looking for something they can "follow" and "re-tweet". -LAME.
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Correct. Not sure when it changed. Anyone remember whether David Robinson served before he went to the NBA?It used to be 4 years if I am not mistaken, I think Staubach server 4 years before coming into the league.
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So, because the Panthers defense wasn't very good last year (after many years of being good), McDermott will fail as a HC? Do you know how he and Beane are regarded around the league?If the Jets hired the defensive coordinator from the Panthers who had a worse defense than Rob and Rex Ryan last year and made him the GM and had him pick players in the draft then fire the scouts who setup the board I would mock them mercilessly. It does not look like a winning hand.
Look, I don't know if they will be any good, but I like a lot of what I have seen so far, and I'm willing to wait until the Bills have played AT LEAST ONE GAME before I scream from every rooftop that they suck.
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And you already know the Bills are not a playoff team, right? Just like you already know that McD and Beane don't know what they're doing. Life must be boring when you know in advance what's going to happen.According to Leroi, Sean McDermott thinks this is a playoff team. And I assume he also sold the Pegulas that he would take this team to the playoffs this year.
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I have to say, as much as I'd like to see this guy in a Bills uniform this fall, this leaves a bit of a bad taste in my mouth. When he signed up for his free ride to the Air Force Academy (a great school, by the way), he knew he was signing up for a (minimum) two-year service commitment after graduation. Now he wants to be let out of that commitment because he's got better things to do with his time. What about the AFA grad who gets an awesome offer to go work for Goldman Sachs after graduation? Does they let him out of his commitment? What about a female AFA grad who wants to try out for the Olympics? Do they let her out? Doesn't seem right to me...
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Try reading the thread. People keep trying to discuss Baltimore's former backup QB and there are other threads for that.
Some people also keep trying to discuss the 49ers' former backup QB, and the QB Magician/Coach who traded two second round picks for him.
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I don't know why you keep relying on Andy Reid to bolster your argument. All you really need to say is that Billsareback agrees with you. It's self-evident that he's an unimpeachable authority on this subject.Andy Reid > Greg Cossell.
And Cossell was the one who all the anti-Mahomes people copied, even if they didn't know it. Dinosaur era scouting. No thanks.
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In 2013, the season before the QB Magician passed on Derek Carr, the Chiefs went 11-5, with Smith averaging a dreadful 6.5 YPA. But of course he could throw at will when the game was on the line. I can't remember if that was the year he threw zero TD passes to his WRs...Smith didn't win more than 7 games until his 7 year in the league...mostly as a starter.
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Why did a Quarterback Magician like Andy Reid pass on Derek Carr in 2014 when all he had was the ultimate check-down QB, Alex Smith?Not all NFL teams have good QB scouts. The worst teams like the Bills wouldn't recognize a good QB if they tapped them on the shoulder. The playoff teams and/or teams with QB gurus were salivating over Mahomes. Hopefully Beane and McDermott will hire a QB guru.
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Point missed...So you'd be ambivalent as to whether you'd want Taylor or Rodgers in that scenario.
And that is why your statistical analysis is simply lacking.
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But Kaepernick fails "the eye test", so he sucks.lol ok, Sparky. 4:1 TD:INT ratio on a crappy team. Has been a starter for a Super Bowl team. Apparently you don't realize how crappy the vast majority of NFL quarterbacks are.
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All the data suggests drafting a QB early in the first provides the best opportunity for finding a franchise QB.
Please share the data. In a league where Drew Brees, Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers have been the dominant QBs for a decade or more, this seems to be more disinformation.
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Alex Smith was traded for 2 high picks. He wasn't scraps.
A. Smith was "another team's backup". The difference is that KC surrendered two second round picks for said backup and the Bills were able to get Tyrod without giving up anything--and Tyrod's cap hit was (and still is) far less than Smith's. Sound's like Rex was a "QB Magician"!
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So does this mean you're dropping your "Alex Smith is better than Tyrod" narrative, after being confronted with overwhelming evidence to the contrary? Is your "Andy Reid=QB Magician" narrative still operative?Alex Smith is playing his last year. His replacement has been drafted and is warming up in the bullpen.
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And Tyrod has only started 29 games in the NFL, and is 6 years younger than Smith. There is every reason to believe he has not hit his ceiling.Alex Smith is playing his last year. His replacement has been drafted and is warming up in the bullpen.
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People tend to forget that there are often 5 or more DBs on the field at one time, and that DBs tend to be major special teams contributors. It's not an area of the team that should be ignored, or even de-emphasized.I know you hate drafting DBs... but there is something of an answer here. They had lost their best corner and in the previous 6 drafts their spend on the secondary had been:
2 4th rounders
2 5th rounders
1 6th rounder
3 7th rounders.
They had a major talent deficiency at defensive back and eventually you have to address it. Bradbury particularly was a player I was quite high on coming out and he had a good rookie year. But the answer is they had a real need at the position after ignoring it high in the draft for the past number of years. Maybe you'd rather never use high picks on defensive backs.... but that isn't a model that the successful franchise in this league have followed.
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Why bother drafting a QB in the first? Just keep looking for other team's backups.
I wonder how many more years of this it will take before fans get fed up?
Right, because it's been proven that the only way to obtain a good QB is to draft one in the first round. It's guaranteed!
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Excatly right. Just say NO to moving up in round 1.I would think going up to #1 overall, given that the QB sitting there was the top prospect in years, would cost at least 3 1sts and two 2nds, not counting whatever 1st you swap to move up.
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Why would you take Tannehill's future? He's started almost three times as many games as Tyrod has, he's a year older than Tyrod, and his numbers really aren't any better than Tyrod's. What makes you think he will improve but Tyrod won't?Certainly he's better than Fitz was, and worse than Brady.
You look at the stats and it looks like Tannehill is passing better than Tyrod, a much higher completion percentage and a considerably longer YPA (8th vs.26th), significantly more INTs but more late-game success than Tyrod (3 fourth quarter comebacks and 3 game-winning drives vs. Tyrod's one and one).
But certainly Tyrod runs better. So overall, well, it's not out of the question.
I'd take Tannehill, myself. But to each their own, I guess. Neither guy's that great, but I'd take Tannehill's future.
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I think this is the most legitimate criticism of Tyrod that I've read here. He often holds the ball too long, and he also tends to bail out of a clean pocket. I think those things can improve with more nfl game experience.I'm not talking about the QBR, just simple stats: like sacks.
Most sacked QB in the league because he can't make decisions and waits: holds the ball too long.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/sacks
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It's a pretty good list, but without context, what does it mean? It seems to me that YPA (or net YPA) is what really matters. Within YPA, there are air yards and YAC. If two quarterbacks each have YPA of 8.0, who cares if one has more YAC than the other? It just means the other QB probably has higher air yards per attempt. Which QB is more accurate? Impossible to tell. The one with more YAC is probably just throwing shorter passes, which tend to generate higher YAC.The list goes, for 2016:
1. Brees
2. Ryan
3. Stafford
4. Flacco
5. Rivers
6. Rodgers
7. Bradford
8. Manning
9. Cousins
10. Smith
That's not a bad list. It lends credence to the idea that YAC should be factored, however weighted, into a QB's evaluation.
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Thank you. The Bills' QB situation is better than it's been at any time since Jim Kelly retired. They have a starter who is at least NFL average and two young backups with potential. The last think anyone should be thinking about is mortgaging the future next year for another rookie.One thing I don't get about all the TT bashing, is that those doing the bashing apparently think franchise QBs grow on trees. The 50th best QB in the world is someone like Mark Sanchez. Playing QB is incredibly hard.
TT is a top 20 QB. But some fans are like, get rid of him! Draft Mahomes! Draft Watson! There is no gurantee that either of these players will be any better than Sanchez, much less Tyrod.
And then there's the crowd already mortgaging present and future draft picks for Darnold or Rosen next year. It's ridiculous. Andrew Luck does not come around every year.
The Bills can win with TT. Play to his strengths, have a scheme that lets him succeed. Have receivers who are better than scrubs, etc.
TT is our QB for the at least one more season...probably more, unless Peterman steps up. Get used to it.
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There are lots of good statistics with which to judge QBs. YAC is probably the worst; it may in fact be entirely useless.I agree that it's difficult to use YAC as a QB measurable between different offensive systems, but why can't you say that all things being equal, hitting a receiver in stride (ie throwing an accurate, NFL level pass) is going to usually produce better numbers? I mean, you can't just wash your hands and say, 'Well, all offensive systems are different and we don't know what the playcall was anyway, so you can't use YAC to judge a QB's performance.' We have to be able to use SOME statistics. Otherwise you might as well throw everything out, including passer rating and the things that Taylor scores either average or above average on, because it's possible the offensive system we run is conducive to high QB rating and isn't indicative of the actual quality of said QB at all.
Let's just be consistent. If we're going to qualify certain statistics because offensive systems are a variable, do it for all statistics good and bad.
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Actually, it proves that people let their prejudices and preconceived notions cloud their judgments about players. Or do you think your "eye test" tells the real story?proof that relying on stats is totally useless for the reality of leading a team down the field.
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