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I agree. I'm also thinking the same thing about 'Bama QBs. Something tells me McCarron is going to be a huge bust in the NFL, when he is not surrounded by physically dominant teammates on offense and defense.P.S. There could be a very good chance that all Bama rbs might be completely overrated. Ingram, TRich, Lacey might just run behind dominant, NFL caliber olines that make them look way better than they actually are.
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Put your money where your mouth is.
So, if his average goes up to a still-sub-par 3.8 YPC, then you're right? I don't think so. I never said he is a terrible back. He will probably do just fine in Indy. But he's just a running back, and by all the evidence so far, a not very dynamic one. Backs like Richardson are a dime a dozen and are not worth a no. 1 pick and they are not the difference between winning and losing.
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Did not mean to pick on you. It just seems that "win now" trades like this never turn out well in the NFL. As others pointed out, Indy seems to be a lot more than an average running back away from a title run.I know a little about Indy's FO, and Grigson is a little bit of a puppet and a little bit of a PR guy. This is why Irsay brought him in when he only had 1 year exp as a Personnel guy - the rest of his exp was as a scout. Grigson played at Purdue and is a big "Indiana" guy. He is kind of like a Russ Brandon but with a scouting background. He knew little about how to run a FO. When Polian was there, he was the President of the Colts and really kept what that org was doing pretty quiet. He controled a lot. When he ws cut loose, all of a sudent Irsay is tweeting all over the place, the team website focused on the cheerleaders more than the team, and everything they did was more PR-related than anything. This a "splash" for a team that just lost their starting RB, TE, and an OL for the year. They could tell Luck needed more to win and they didn't want to wait until the draft or sign a FA. They wanted a press conference. They wanted a splash. They got one, we'll see what they do with it.
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Wow, sounds kind of like Al Davis trading a 1 and a 2 to the Bengals for Carson Palmer.Eaxactly... while Irsay cam come off as a bit crazy at times, he wants to win and win now.
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In 236 carries last year, he had TWO runs of 20 yards or more. This year his longest is 10. What is it that you are seeing that the Brown apparently are not? We are not talking about CJ Spiller here. And he has had 2 knee surgeries. No thanks.1.) I actually watch the games. Not look at a YPC numbers. (My Wife's family are Brown's fans for some reason.)
2.) Really? So starting Chris Rainey is the same as starting Trent Richardson? Having a RB get 0.1 YPC is the same as running the ball 3 times and getting a first down? That won't effect wins?
3.) Lets see what happens to Trent's YPC number in Indi? What to take a bey it increases? I'll take any bets.
"He averaged 3.6 YPC with broken ribs in teh factory of sadness therefore he sucks." Just Genius reasoning there.
We're talking about a dude name Chud and Norv "The worst winning record in NFL history for a HC" Turner. He brought the San Diego Chargers offense to a grinding halt. Yes they are actually employed by NFL team, just barely but I'm willing to go with my opinion over Norv "Why isn't every QB like Troy Aikman and every RB like Emmit Smith?" Tuner.
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They will. But if they don't, lots of others will, like Mariota, Boyd, Hundley, McCarron, Murray. It will be a far, far, better class than this year's. I think there is a much better chance this blows up in Indy's face: Richardson continues to be the injury-plagued, underperforming back he has been so far in his career, Indy has a worse year than expected and misses out on a great draft.EDIT: Not to mention this could all blow up in the Browns faces. What if Manziel or Bridgwater don't come out? What if there isn't a clear cut franchise QB?
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How do you figure he is one of the best young backs in the league? He averaged 3.6 YPC last year and is averaging only 3.4 this year. The current Browns regime, which has the opportunity to see him up close every day, obviously is not nearly as high on him as you are. And we are talking about a Running Back here. His loss will make little difference in how Cleveland fares this year.Cut their losses? They traded one of the best young RBs in the league. One so good the NFL had to change the rules because of him.
This would be like trading Spiller in 2011 when you Fitzy on the roster.
Its not cutting your loses. Its amplifying your loses.
This seriously questions the integrity of the game.
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A lot of people are ripping the Browns for this trade, but really it makes me question the competence of Indy's FO. The Browns are just cleaning up a mess created by the previous regime. I don't know what Indy is doing. And wouldn't it be funny if Indy's pick--in a very strong draft--turns out to be a lot higher than anyone expects?I think the owner in Indy is sticking his nose in and telling them what to do. The new FO in Indy is very inexperienced. This looks like a desperation move to make sure they don't take a step back this year after they went to the playoffs lastyear, when in reality they kind of overachieved with an average at best defense and a young offense, a 1st year coach, then an interim coach, etc. He wants to make darn sure that he still looks good for getting rid of Polian & staff and Manning and moving on.
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talk about missing hard on the 2012 nfl draft with wheeden and richardson.
Yep. On the other hand, this is a pretty good trade for the Browns, even though it must be painful to give up someone you took with the no. 3 pick in the draft. Their initial selection of Richardson was incredibly foolish; even though he is a good back, running backs are a dime a dozen and the only ones that should be taken in the first half of the first round are guys who are once in a generation talents like AP. Richardson clearly did not qualify. They are lucky to get a no. 1 for him now, even though it's likely to be in the second half of the first round. This puts them in a great position to get a franchise QB next year by (a) getting an additional no. 1 and (b) making it more likely they will lose a lot of games this year. And by the way, there is no sure-fire first pick in the draft next year. Way too much football to be played. You can bet that several of the highly touted QB's will flame out (like Barkley did last year) and others will step forward. Personally, I believe Mariota will be the first player selected. One thing is for sure--if a sure-fire franchise QB does emerge, you can forget about Jadeveon Clowney going no. 1. No defensive player--no matter how good--is worth a great QB.
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The reason I think he wouldn't is the dreadful series when he launched two straight fades from the Carolina 2-yard line and did not appear to seriously consider going for it on 4th down, when the analytics show that you should. My sense is that Marrone is not yet confident enough in his decision-making to make the "tough" call to go for it in that situation. Again, this is all just a guess, and I truly hope I'm wrong.I would really like to think Marrone and Hackett know the statistics and would have made the correct decision.
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Great point. What amazes me is that the announcers are completely oblivious to this sort of thing. I could not hear the announcers at the end of the game yesterday, but I'm sure they did not even suggest that Rivera might consider going for it on 4th down. To the contrary, if he had, they would have been floored and talked about him like he was a riverboat gambler, when the numbers show just the opposite. Something tells me that Marrone takes the FG in that situation, too, but I hope I'm wrong about that.In Carolina's situation (4th and 1, opponent's 21, 1:42 on the clock), the difference in win probability for success/failure of attempting the FG was 82% vs. 81% -- almost negligible. By contrast, the win probability for success/failure of going for it was 97% vs. 84%. But here's the point -- even failing to convert on 4th and 1 results in a higher win probability than making the FG.
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That's hard to say. IMO, a lot of NFL coaches, probably the majority, would have reluctantly kicked the FG. The probably of a rookie QB going 80 yards for a TD versus 40 yards for a FG in 1:38 with no timeouts has got to be less than 10% and probably closer to 1-5%.
I agree that a lot of NFL coaches would have kicked the FG. That doesn't make it right. I don't know for sure what the analytics folks would say, but I'm pretty sure that according to their formulas, going for the first down in that situation gives your team the best chance to win, and it's probably not even close. Chance of converting the 4th down play on that part of the field has to be at least 70%, especially with Cam Newton at QB. Then, if you fail, the Bills (with a rookie QB in his second game) have to go at least 50 yards with no time outs. Chances of that alone happening have to be less than 35%. Then Carpenter has to make the FG. Chance of a miss is probably as high as 50% from beyond 45 yards. AND the FG would only tie the game, meaning your team still has roughly a 50% chance of winning even if all those other bad things happen. It's a perfect example of the "safe" call being the low percentage move.
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Luckily he was up against a coach who did his best Jauron imitation - Rivera. For the life of me, I don't understand how NFL lifers don't understand basic NFL clock management. Go for the first down on 3 and 5; don't run it up the middle and concede the series. He did it all for the purpose of ensuring that the Bills would have 1:38 and no timeouts to work with instead of 1:38 and 1 timeout to work with. Try and actually get the first down, and you might actually have some success. Schiano did the same.
And go for the first down on 4th and 1 from the Bills' 21, especially when you have a 6'5" 250 pound, highly mobile QB. Convert that and the game's over. Fail to convert, and the Bills still need to go 50 yards with no timeouts to kick the game-tying FG. (Unlikely that the Bills would try to score a TD if trailing by only 3.) I was elated when Rivera decided to kick the FG. It was a timid, old-school, Jauron-like, play-not-to-lose decision.
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Unless you are talking about the Panthers' players.The players didn't seem to be hampered too much by their culture of failure today.
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Yep, and the worst part is that they really had three shots at it from the 2 yard line--Marrone should be thinking that they are definitely going for it on 4th down in that situation. That was truly awful. Hopefully, he learned something.Aside from the A. Williams late hit (ridiculous gaffe - what was he thinking?), I was most frustrated with the playcalling when we were in the red zone on this drive in the 3rd quarter:
Man I was frustrated.
Or a QB draw.. Also I was FURIOUS at the plays called from the 3 yd line when we have 2 clutch RBs. 2 fades??? Ram that ball up their throat with a dive. Hell, CJ can jump the pile from there if he had to. -
5. I was more upset with the two fades that were called from the Carolina 2 yard line. That is Fred Jackson territory. Was happy to see him get the ball from there on the next possession. Result? TD!
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Anyone who thinks Nix had anything to do with this draft is delusional.Don't thank Nix, the ADD portion of the fanbase will be upset.
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. Agreed, but going for 2 really is a no-brainier in that situation. Almost made up for that atrocious series when he called 2 straight fades from the 2 yard line. Just punch the damn thing in. That was Gailley-esque.Give Marrone credit for the 2pt conversion call. It wasn't a given to go for it at that point, but in the end it was a difference between a win and overtime.
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If I were you, I would be calling for Rivera's head for kicking that FG instead of going for it on 4th and one at the end of the game. Dumb and gutless at the same time.Panthers fan here. Wanted to post earlier in the week to say I expected you guys to win, but had to wait for my account to be verified. I put $100 down on Buffalo to win against Carolina. Carolina always finds a way to blow it at the end of the game and as usual they followed the script.
I wish you guys well the rest of the year but honestly you guys are probably in for a rough season. From what I saw, any good team would have crushed you guys. You won't get the privilege of playing a franchise as inept as Carolina every week. But congrats on the win. Enjoy it because I know as a Panther fan coming to a Bills fan, they are few and far between.
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Cannot believe they kicked a FG there. Fortunately for us, Rivera is as incompetent as Marrone.
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As I recall, Culpepper was slow.Reminds me of Daunte Culpepper, but more polished.
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Just watched replay of Sunday's game. One thing I love about EJ is his size. It is nice to have a big, mobile QB in the backfield. You get the sense that a blitzing cornerback would not be able to bring the guy down. He throws a nice ball, too.
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nonsense. It was immediately clear that he was an absolute steal in the 5th round. I believe he started every game his rookie year and was definitely one of the best defensive players on the team.He was talented and exceeded his draft position but wasn't a stud. He improved yearly and became a force.
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Are you joking? He was a stud from the first week of training camp.Kyle Williams
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I have to mention the 2007 Monday Night game against Dallas, even though the ending was horrific. It was a gorgeous October night in WNY and the electricity in the stadium was palpable. I have never heard noise like that at any stadium and it lasted the entire game. And of course the game was just jam-packed with huge plays--two pick sixes, a kick off return for touchdown, etc. Easily the most memorable sporting event I have ever attended. I believe that was the last Monday Night game at the Ralph, and it is a bloody shame that there have not been more.