mannc
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The question is, will the Browns pick up Justin Gilbert's fifth year option?🤔
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Well, he has played 3 quarters in the preseason and one quarter in a game the Bills were actively trying to lose. Let's cut him!I remember that too.
Bills fans are fickle.
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Watkins has been somewhat of a disappointment so far, but only because the expectations were so high and because of the astounding success of that year's WR class as a whole. When he's on the field, he is a matchup problem who opens up the entire offense. There is no question the Bills will pick up his 5th year option and will probably end up franchising him in year 6.
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33, Cosell -- you happy now?
Someone has to maintain the high standards of TSW...
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No way the Browns would give up their 2018 1st just for moving up 2 spots.
Their 2nd round pick(#33) this year would be a different story.
I agree that the Browns will not give away their 1 next year to move up two slots, but there is no way they would give up pick number 33 either. In fact, some people would consider the 33rd pick this year to be at least as valuable as next years no. 1, based on the premise that, in valuing future draft picks, you deduct one round for every year in the future. This might be an exception to that rule given the perceived likelihood that Cleveland's no 1 next year will be a top three pick in a year where there might be multiple franchise QBs available, but still...
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You can't discount the TDs either, the guy have 50 combined. 50/17 is not a bad ratio, that is +43.
You sure about that?
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Who is Howard Cossell? Is he any relation to Howard Cosell, of MNF fame?He works for NFL films. His uncle was Howard Cossell.
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Who is this "Cossell" you keep talking about?Cossell falls in love with Blake Bortles hates Derek Carr. This year it's Davis Webb and he hates Mahomes.
Cossell your cup of tea?
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I was joking (look at the thread title). I've got no issue with Tyrod running the ball.I don't like putting a QB at that much risk, but we scored plenty of points. THAT was not our problem. This year? Who knows?
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The Bills led the league in QB runs last year and it did not really work in their favor.
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I hate this idea. It has been tried many times and has literally never worked, although there is an outside chance that Philly may have a good QB in Wentz. Let the draft come to you, or trade down.I've been on board trying to get a 2018 1st so that you can go from 10 to 3 or whatever to land one of those elite guys.
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There is nothing whatsoever in that two and a half year old article that supports your "feeling" that Cardale will be cut or that he has a poor work ethic. Nice try, though.http://collegefootball.ap.org/article/nfl-talk-buzzing-cardale-jones-says-hes-not-ready
Plus I have read reports of him taking a lot of time off last season. Sorry can't find a link for that.
It does not matter though, I just feel Jones will not be in the NFL long.
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The problems with Sherman are that he is 29, highly paid and apparently is considered toxic by one of the best and easiest coaches in the league to get along with. Most teams don't want to trade a no. 1 for that. Hope the Bills don't.
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Not quite. Browns could trade up to 10 to take MT or another QB because they are afraid AZ or another team will trade up to 10 and do so.If the Bills were willing to trade down 2 spots, that would imply they don't want Trubisky because a lot of people expect the Browns to take him at 12. The only reason the Browns would make that trade is if they thought Buffalo was going to take Trubisky,
Therefore that trade doesn't make sense unless the Bills know (with confidence) that the Browns don't want Trubisky.
Otherwise the trade is a catch 22.
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I'm not sure where to start, but let's go with your laughable statement that ACC and Big 12 defenses are superior to PAC 12 defenses, as if it's some sort of unarguable piece of received wisdom. Then there's your attempt to deny that Ross was an extremely productive receiver, but most of all the punk attitude you took with one of the most knowledgeable and respected members of this board. And I didn't even mention your third grade level spelling, punctuation and sentence structure.😃What part was ignorant?
The part where he claimed one injury when he actually had 3 and was corrected?
The part where he said he isnt oft injured? When he was corrected that the kid has missed more time from his college career to injury than he has played?
The part where he was corrected about the stronger conference. I mean the PAC 12 screams high level talent.
The likes of Colorado, Wahington state, california, utah, ucla, arizona.
Cmon dont come here and bandwagon mean and act as if i said posted something that was wrong. The kid has had 4 major surgeries. One acl, two meniscus, and a microfracture surgery. About to get a torn labrum fixed and has only playe one true year of college ball with any results. Hea not worth a top ten pick regardless of what attacking posts you send my way.
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First you were wrong about his td production.
Then you were wrong about his level of competition vs roscoe and goodwins.
The only thing you uave said that is even remotely true is that he is the same size as Antonio Brown. You know who else was Roscoe and Goodwin. He missed two seasons. One with a torn meniscus the other with a torn meniscus and acl. Why do you continue to lie? Now hes scheduled for a shoulder surgery and likely to miss quite abit of time at the beginning of the season. The only reason hes being talkes about at all is his speed. That isnt a reason to remotely draft him anywhere near 10 with 4 significant injuries, a bery small frame, one year of production against low competion. You might want to step away from the keyboard abit.
Wow. This caps off one of the most profoundly ignorant and insulting series of posts in the history of TSW. Congratulations. After only 296 posts, you are on a pace to re-write the record book.
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...pretty surprising for Pete.......he is a rah rah players' coach.......
Sherman is not a team guy. He's taken numerous shots (publicly) at the coaching staff and his teammates. Carroll is a very positive guy and I think Sherman's act just rubs him the wrong way, as it should.
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Because he was benched at OSU. Didn't you know that???why?
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Do you also factor in the first that the Eagles got from Minn for Bradford?IMO you absolutely have to factor in the cost it took to get Wentz.
Eagles gave up two top 12 1st round draft picks, plus the 2nd, 3rd and 4th, plus the cost to move up in the 1st round last year with Miami.
Wentz has a very long way to go to ever be worth everything given up to get him.
I get what you're saying, but the cost to get Wentz is a very real factor.
At any rate, I think the verdict on Wentz is still highly uncertain. He did not look good the second half of the season. If we were just talking about the 2017 season, i would definitely take Tyrod over Wentz.
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John, you're absolutely right, but wasting your time. If you look at the numbers, TT has better numbers than Jameis Winston the last two years, but it's ignored. They have about the same number of NFL starts, too.based on what? The individual qb numbers? passing yards?
Most certainly was not total offensive production
How do you know that?Based on no NFL team would rather have Tyrod than Carson Wentz.
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IMO, most likely trade down is to 12 or 13, which would probably net us a 3rd. I'd do it.
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Not according to ESPN. Seahawks have plenty of cap room and no viable replacement for Sherman on the roster. Pete Carroll is simply tired of this guy's act. No, thank you.The Seahawks are willing to trade him for the same reason that the Patriots traded Richard Seymour or Chandler Jones. They ARE about to run into MAJOR cap issues over the next couple of years. Some of these guys won't be back. You try to get back assets to replace them instead of letting them walk (a la Gilmore) with nothing to show. Teams make moves like this when the return will be greater than any compensatory pick that they could possibly receive. This is a problem that only really good (and deep) teams have. Most teams can allocate their cap dollars to their 5-10 best players. When you have 12-15 guys in that mix though it changes things.
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Is there any reason to believe that the reported combine number was not accurate? Were his throws clocked again at his pro day? (Reports re his pro day were not encouraging, btw.) You saw the data in the other post regarding ball speed--if Watson's reported 49 mph was real and not the result of injury, I think it makes him to a mid-round pick at best.I don't believe the data we have is sufficient to conclude that Watson isn't there.
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Yep. The problem was not Detroit's heavy investment in the position; the problem was that they drafted lousy WRs (except for Megatron, of course).And was a dynamic option for that offense. Not apples to apples what he was looking for but I think illustrates that the Detroit lions aren't the only possible outcome

why draft a raw QB when we've got Cardale on the roster
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