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    What’s up with Gambling int he NFL amongst NFL Players?

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    7 minutes ago, Logic said:

    The NFL is walking a funny, fine little line right now.

    On the one hand, getting fully into bed with legal sports betting, promoting it three times per commercial break, adding handheld betting machines to stadium seatbacks, etc....all while telling players "gambling is bad!".

    And I'm not talking about gambling on other NFL games. If I understand it correctly, the NFL will discipline players for gambling any amount, on any sport. 

    Ridiculous.

     

    ...wait, what?

     

    Let's dump on Saffold a little more

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    29 minutes ago, boyst said:

    dude was a joke and is a joke. he's a former bill, so just like the dead there is no need to bring them up.

     

    Mostly just in the vein of "how did we specifically improve from last year."

     

    I mean, in this one they have Singletary lined up essentially as an OL next to Saffold, probably because they figured he would completely screw up the threatened blitz.

     

     

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    Let's dump on Saffold a little more

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    This guy has been tweeting today about Josh's work in the Bengals playoff game, but all I see is Saffold getting repeatedly embarrassed. I don't know if there was something going on with him that game, like an injury or something, but this is just brutal.

     

    Gives me hope for next year, since the others on the line seem to be doing a pretty decent job in pass blocking, even Brown.

     

     

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    Uniform Identity & Changes (What is behind it)

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    On 5/3/2023 at 2:39 PM, corta765 said:

    A popular topic around these parts is the Bills doing a throwback to the 90s blue unis and red helmets which in turn brings up why we do not see more uniforms or changes by the Bills in general. As someone who regular reads about the process of uni changes and everything that goes into it I thought I would share what factors the team, NIKE, and NFL wise regular play a role in this.

     

    To start you can basically divide the league into three branches in terms of uniform style; traditional, not traditional, and mixed appearance which are teams that may have some traditional looks they either have blended or moved away from but the elements still are there. I would break the teams out like this:

     

    Traditional look: BUF, CHI, CLE, CIN, DAL, GB, IND, KC, LAC, LV, NYG, PIT, SF

    Not traditional look: ATL, BAL, CAR, DEN, HOU, NYJ, NOLA, PHI, SEA, TEN

    Mixed: ARZ, DET, JAX, LAR, MIN, MIA, NE, TB, WSH

     

    How those teams end up in those categories is interesting as a variety of things are at play. Classic long term franchises like PIT, GB, CHI, KC, etc will never significantly alter what they wear as that is their brand and look come hell or high water. BUF/CLE/CIN have all smartly returned to classic style uniforms after moving for a while to newer "modern" looks that really never fit. On the flipside teams like SEA, NE, & DEN all had very nice traditional looks, BUT the rings came in what you see right now. A lot of Denver fans do not mind their current look apparently because that was what their titles came in. For the Patriots the classic Pat the Patriot look is wonderful, but Brady and crew won six in the blue Elvis patriot look so I doubt they ever fully move away. Some teams like Minnesota have successfully mixed a traditional flair with a modern approach while Miami has had middling results and other franchises like the Rams have left a far superior jersey on the table for the trash sorry "modern" look they have now. Modern doesn't mean bad as BAL/PHI/NOLA/TB all have very solid looks that are not traditional, but as we've all seen many times modern goes off the rails.

     

    Today's NFL teams are corporations in a nut shell. The brand is everything which is why some of the more creative logos and looks have passed for dull "modern" attempts. Any time a team decides to move to something new its a multi year process that goes through the NFL. Even if Buffalo wants the red helmet and blue jersey from the 90s as a third you are looking at 2-3 years to actually get it on the field between approvals and then sourcing. Last season the Bills did not wear their AFL white unis and I partially believe that is because the submitted a request to the league to move to the red helmets on an alternate basis. The Bucs would've had their popular creamsicle look last year but the supply shortage caused it to be delayed a year. When a new uniform is brought out it is five years before a team can start anew for something else. If that team wins a title in that time I can guarantee any plans they have on made changing or altering things will be delayed. 

     

    One of the other things that has slowed down or stopped popular uniforms like the Eagles Kelly green is the NFLs one shell rule. Back around 2011 the NFL made it mandatory that players use the same helmet at all times for safety reasons. That in turn eliminated the ability for one off helmets until this last year when the NFL finally modified the policy to bring in another helmet as long as it passed the safety tests. This should open up teams to be able to wear multiple looks again. 

     

    Finally the NFL uniform provider NIKE plays the other major role in this. NIKE rarely does things traditional if they have the opportunity. If the entire league was traditional 32 teams across it hurts NIKE. Whether you liked Atlanta's divisive look that came out or not it brings NIKE to the forefront with something different which keeps the brand out front. I have thought for a while the NFL will eventually go the way of college football where teams can wear many combinations and looks as it is an additional revenue source for the league and NIKE.

     

    Let me know your thoughts on this and anything you may have to add

     

    Sorry if I missed this, but just curious why you would consider TB "mixed"?

     

    Can you recall a time you didn’t watch a Bills game and got the result after the game?

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    Sort of what you mean, but my favorite/worst example of this was back during the dark times, in the Monday Night season opener against New England**** in 2009.

     

    I had to board a plane that evening, can't remember to where, and I sat in the boarding area watching everything I could as long as I could. They were getting to last call for boarding when Freddie scored on the excellently called and beautifully executed screen pass to give the Bills an 11-point lead with just over 5 minutes left in the game. At that point, I boarded the plane with feelings of joy and hope, knowing I wouldn't be able to know the results until we landed.

     

    By the time we landed, it was past midnight, and the arrival airport was dark and mostly abandoned. There was a TV on in the middle of the terminal so I stood there and waited for the score scrawl at the bottom. When I saw the final was 25-24 Pats****, I nearly ***** my pants right there in the airport.

     

    I walked out of the airport in a daze. In retrospect, I am so glad I didn't have to watch that collapse in real time.

     

    Second best (but really the best) was the other season opener against New England****, the one in 2003. Had to go to a friend's wedding and we were again on a plane the way back during the game. I didn't hear a thing about the game, and found out after we landed that the final was 31-0. That was a sweet feeling.

     

    DHopkins would cost a 2nd round pick...would you do it?

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    4 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

    Yes. When we have 200 page topic on one item and I ask "why in gods name do we need another topic on this" (and people agree)  and instead of replying why, you make it a personal comment against me..

     

    Just friggen stop for Christ sakes. My question wondering why we need another topic lead you to say "Wow, life must be pretty tough"  Seriously think I won't defend myself?

     

    Enough....  Get over it. 

     

    Hey, I wasn't the one triggered by a new topic on a message board. Would be good if you took your own advice.

     

    DHopkins would cost a 2nd round pick...would you do it?

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    18 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

    if you think me asking why we needed another thread on this topic with others agreeing with me personal then the only skin that is thin is yours. 

     

    Ah, the always impressive "I know you are but what am I" response. Savage!

     

    Seriously, you're telling me you look at these two posts:

     

    10 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said:

    why in GODS NAME!!!! did we need another topic on this? 

    210 pages+ is NOT enough for you to figure this out?

     

    boards are going to hell in a hand basket. 

     

    6 hours ago, Rubes said:


    Wow, life must be pretty tough.

     

     

    ...and your conclusion is that the second is the totally rude and personal one while the first is just a totally innocent, objective statement of fact (nothing personal at all!). Sure. I mean, I guess if you're living on your own personal bizarro world?

     

    As for "others agreeing with me" I guess I'd compare the handful of those who did with the now 320+ board members who voted in the poll and extended this thread to 9 pages. Apparently a lot more thought there was, in fact, room for another thread, your ALL CAPS bewilderment notwithstanding.

     

    Again, as other have repeatedly pointed out, just ignore the thread if you don't like it. Nobody's forcing you to interact.

     

    DHopkins would cost a 2nd round pick...would you do it?

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    1 hour ago, Buffalo03 said:

    Why isn't this in the 216 page Dhop thread already open?

     

    'Cause I wanted to do a poll to see where people stand on the issue of a 2nd rounder for DHop. Sorry if that offends you, but I don't think burying a poll in the middle of a 216-page thread will really give us a sense of where most people stand.

     

    If you'd prefer yet another thread on someone we should or should not draft, maybe I can better serve you next time.

     

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    A Not So Trivia Trivia Question

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    20 minutes ago, RevWarRifleman said:

    The other day, something reminded me of that old Lou Saban half time speech that NFL Films used to showed:  "You can get it done. You can

    get it done. What's worse, you GOTTA get it done!!!

     

        What team were the Bills playing and, did the Bills  "get it done" and win that game?

     

    Something made me think it was Miami, and the answer is no. But I could totally be making that up.

     

    OT…Marcus Mariota cut

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    I like Keenum and I think they'll bring him back, as they seem to prefer guys who already know the system.

     

    That said, I never felt very confident that Keenum could come in and get the job done.

     

    I don't know if Mariota could, but it will be interesting to see if they look at anyone else out there. Many options.

     

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