Offside Number 76
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I like the idea a lot and it seems to make sense so the Erie County and Buffalo politicians will die before they let it happen
Hi. Welcome to 2015. The city has a mayor that stays the hell out of the way. The county, well, not so much, but if it's enough private money, it will happen.
You're welcome back to your Masiello or Griffin or whatever years now.
why cant you tailgate in the city?
There is no reason. When the Sabs play late in the year (I know it's been a while), people tailgate without any problems. Full-on grilling, drinking, music, fun, mini-sticks, whatever.
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I dont think it would..i think it would be the same. But a lot of folks, like myself, prefer to be outside cooking my own food, drinking my own beer. I guess my point was to expect people to go to bars/restuarants pre game, spend money in the stadium, and then go back the bars post game is not realistic for transportation planning.
It's exactly what tons of people do before and after Sabres games to avoid traffic and/or crowded trains. It really isn't unrealistic. Some will continue to tailgate, some will go to restaurants, and some will go straight home.
The point about the liquor law is more important. I think that the state would grant Erie the same exemptions that it grants certain counties downstate. http://www.sla.ny.gov/provisions-for-county-closing-hours Notice which counties are missing: Bronx, Kings, New York, Richmond, and Queens. The usual favorable treatment for NYC...
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Jasper , IMHO, that MetroRail just will not be able to handle any reasonable amount of game day attendance. I think you all are overestimating the appetite for people to hang around after a game. I know Buffalo is having a nice comeback, but to think people are going to come down early on a train or bus, spend $40 bucks on pre game food and drink, spend $100 on tickets at minimum, spend $30 inside, then come back out and spend $40 again eating and drinking just not realistic for the majority of fans.
Is there a subset of fans, mostly in 20-30s that will yes. But not enough that would spread 10000 people out over two hours. That has been my experience in other cities like Pittsburgh and New Orleans that have downtown stadiums. Christ, in New Orleans a block away from the atrium we sat right down at a half empty bar 20 minutes after the game.
And I am missing the hotel thing as I mentioned. I stayed downtown for 3 games this year, and it was a scramble to get rooms , and I reserved two of them day schedule came out.
I know the new Marriot is going up , but as I said with Hockey tourneys and such, demand for rooms be even greater, but just on weekends. Not sure how that translates to more rooms being sold.
Like I said, I want a downtown stadium, I just don't want to see it become a cluster like it did in DC. Parking has to be priority. Mass transit will not be the answer in Buffalo, nor will buses etc. Need parking and plenty of it.
We have to do that now, with the traffic situation in Orchard Park. It's either (1) leave early, (2) sit in traffic for 90 minutes, or (3) hang out for 2 hours and then get in the car. Why would it be any worse with stuff to do around the stadium?
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I thought there was a lot of stupid stuff in this article. Just going from memory
1) park and ride lots with bus service to stadium is just not gunna work. Groups taking a bus to stadium one thing, but I don't know one city where that is a massively used option in a park and ride fashion. In DC when that place first opened, people would not take metro cause you had a 2 mile bus ride to stadium. Had to build a brand new metro stop to get people to use it.
2) including that MetroRail system as a comparison to other cites with subways etc is just a flaw. Thing goes in one direction, and even at that could not handle the volume after a game. Christ, Metro in DC one of the best systems in the country, and it sucks for Skins game.
3) Amtrak being on time haha. Guess these folks don't take the trains often. If you plan on a train from Syracuse being there before the game? Best leave at 8 AM When I go to Boston for the Pats game, we take train to stadium. 2000 people on board. Can't see train being a huge option that everyone wants to say it is.
Also saying downtown saydium would encourage people to stay downtown in hotels. Hun? I stay downtown all the time for Bills game, hard as hell to get a room now. Add in hockey tourneys and such and Harbour center, unless boatload of new hotels gunna be built for 10 days a year, hotels at capacity for Bills games now.
4) I also agree downtown does not mean end of tailgating as long as surface lots within a mile of stadium. been to plenty of games in downtown stadiums, still plenty of tailgating. Even in New Orleans last year plenty of tailgates , and that in a city with the best bar/ restuarant scene in the country.
5) for everyone who keeps saying putting a roof on the place makes it a year round facility? What else would it be used for? I am at trade shows quite often, have never been in a stadium for one. I am asking seriously... What else are these place ( outside the Cowboys olace) used for.
But the basic point is correct: If downtown Buffalo can handle 60,000 people arriving between 8 and 930 on a weekday morning, it can handle the same number arriving between 9 and 1130 on a Sunday morning. No problem.
Re: DC, the problem there is a little different. First, they had the bus thing, and I lived there then and experienced it. You're right, it's a nightmare. But on top of that, there is not as much of a tailgate culture there, not everyone has cars, and it's the worst traffic in the nation. So, IMO, there's more of a load on the metro there than there will be here.
There is enough parking in the three cardinal directions radiating from downtown for everyone, and the traffic isn't going to be any worse than it is in Orchard Park. (Seriously, is it even possible for it to be worse?) It very likely will be better for the reason pointed out in the article: the city already handles that traffic every day.
EDIT: I'm in total agreement w/ you on point 5 and still want a dome, for selfish reasons (I'm a weather wimp and I'll freely admit it). If there's a dome, I'll likely try to become a STH. If there isn't, I likely won't.
All that said, as a taxpayer, my preference is renovation. That's not going to happen, though.
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It's easy enough to see that the Pats are cheating with this graph & analysis.
But look at the other end of the graph: What does this tell us about our Bills? Way too many fumbles!
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I may be wrong JR...but I recall there being no rule against 'stickum' in the NFL at the time Lester Hayes used it with Raiders. He used to go on the field with the stuff literally dripping off his hands and everyone knew he was using it. It wasn't illegal.
Hence, I can't draw the same parallel with NE as they knowingly broke a rule. That, and the fact that they are systemic cheaters.
You are correct. And while Hayes has the reputation, it was Biletnikoff that taught him about stickum.
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That was probably the first time the head coach has said hello to the receptionist in the past couple of years.
I have a print of that LeRoy Neiman behind her.
And to close the loop, the plane Rex took to Buffalo his was certainly not the one the team used to conduct the West Coast interviews.
Definitely not, but very likely another Executive Airshare plane.
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The thing that bothers me the most is we have a really talented team that was likely going to make the playoffs next year anyway. Now this worthless sack of crap is gonna get credit for it.
Can't wait to hear this fat POS run his mouth off all the time.
Sorry, but he's not a Buffalo type of guy who's humble with working class roots/mentality. He's a "I'm better than everyone else" type of guy.
There are things I like about this hire and things I don't, but I don't see a bit of swagger as a problem. It's a refreshing change.
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Just noticed that either the profanity filter is down or it doesn't filter the word "shitting."
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The first splashy hire since Chuck Knox and some people are sh**ing all over it. Amazing.
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The message board is fine, just the news portion is down.
Thank you so much for telling me that. I always go in through the front page.
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This is killing my ability to procrastinate and I may have to start a Sabres thread here.
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Uh oh. I hope this is not a repeat of the Great Crash of 2007 or whenever it was.
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As a sometime poster here, but very frequent poster on Sabrespace, all I can say is that I hope the mobile version of Xenforo is better than IPB if you are considering the switch.
I've also always liked the look and feel of your boards, so hopefully that doesn't change.
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Anyone else find it odd that DUI/DWI not in there? He left a bar room brawl at 3:15am and you're trying to tell me the guy wasn't drunk too? [/size][/font][/color]
Kelly wasn't the driver.
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I disagree that it isn't more prestigious (and I love the Bills & hate Michigan). A big part of what makes those jobs is tradition & alumni money. Is ND any good? Texas? Those are still considered way better jobs than somewhere like Ole Miss even though Ole Miss would pound those teams (when healthy). Here is a list of the 10 best coaching jobs in football as of 2 years ago. http://m.espn.go.com...842&src=desktop
While I agree that Michigan isn't what it used to be (and may never be). The job clearly still has appeal.
That list is ridiculous. Houston? New England?
But yes, Michigan is a prestigious job.
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How about that Mark Poloncarz? NFL smackdown. Don't mess with WNY.
Now it looks like the NFL that is getting buried.
Good for him.
And I'm glad the future of the team isn't at risk so that he could speak up.
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The skank apple doesn't fall far from the tree I guess.
Your house huh. This thread has been enlightening.
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The proper thing would have been to either bat it back onto the field or throw it back onto the field. Sorry, the away team doesn't get to celebrate with its fans in my house.
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Any team that drafted him would still be playing him. He's a QB and it is simply too early to write him off. Or to call him the next all-star.
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So let me ask you this, do you think this kind of case would be plastered all over the news just like AP? Do you you'd be plastered on all major sports media outlets? Or any news outlets for that matter? No, you'd be on the last page of the news paper with one line, if at all. This is apples and oranges. Its likely your company would allow you to go through the process and still work. If found guilty then they make a decision. That's the way it should be.
What about the guy who slid down the railing?
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I put AP in an entirely different category than Ray Rice. Peterson grew up thinking this was an appropriate way to discipline a child. It's what he knows; this is what was taught to him as a child. He needs therapy (to deal with the abuse he received), counseling (to become a better parent), and compassion. Not this nonsense.
I doubt Ray Rice grew up thinking it was appropriate to knock a woman out.
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I just came in to compliment you on your excellent taste in screen names.
Rex changes his tattoo to Buffalo blue
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Here are some photos and video, with an interview of the tattoo artist: http://www.wsj.com/video/bills-coach-rex-ryan-updates-his-old-jets-tattoo/1BD01A4C-BFE8-40A5-A42F-8A8AF9898B1A.html