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This was exactly my agruement with the WGR screener today - but again - it wasn't relevant. Schoop is nothing more than a shill to Entercom who makes a TON of money off ad revenue because of the SABRES and the BILLS. But still, WGR is a joke... and so is DeLuca1967.

No, the real question is: what kind of fan are YOU? Again, find me a link on record nhl profits - please, hurry - meanwhile, our beloved Sabres STILL can't make a profit.

AND a win, on the road in Baltimore, against one of the TOP defensive units in the league? Again, nice try champ - now go find me a link on NHL profits. (good luck!)

The Bills needed a miracle to make the playoffs! Where's your link on NHL record profits? Last I heard, it will be a miracle if the Sabres make a profit THIS year: http://www.njdevs.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=28281 WGR55 is a joke and should be called "Sabres Radio 24-7." Even the callers they let on are a bunch of fems. Nice try buddy but don't you have calls to screen?

So, tell me - if the Sabres didn't come off the strike blazing like they are - would they be that popular because the "NHL shut down for a year so that teams like the Sabres can exist." (what a crock that argument is) Dude, in your little dream world - the Sabres are an anomaly - Buffalo is the only team in the NHL that is seeing this type of success - go to Boston, NY or even Carolina and you can walk up - same day - to get a ticket. If the gears were switched and bills were winning - fans would be going nuts over the bills. Winning brings fans and support. But his show was so over the top and biased - he couldn't even handle a call from someone to counter his points - what a joke. I'm sorry, but I expect more for Buffalo NY.

Sabres officially take over as number one team in Buffalo - per Schoop! Sabres this, sabres that, sabres, i love the sabres, who are the bills, sabres, sabres, bills suck, sabres, gotta gotta gotta, did I mention the Sabres? Sabre players are people - bills players are bad bad bad. (Don't give me this: the common man can relate to the Sabres and not the Bills when both make millions upon millions a year - more than most "common folk" will ever see in lifetime. ) Schopp was over the top and an arrogant pig. If the Bills won last Sunday - today's topic: "Sabres officially take over as number one team in Buffalo" (ACCORDING to who, YOU??) - would never have occurred. I'm sorry, big Sabres AND Bills fan - I support them both 110% - win or lose. But the Sabres are local - the Bills are worldwide - try calling up to share that perspective and it's not "worthwhile to the show." Shows like this make me sick and do nothing for the morale of Buffalo. Kick the Bills while they're down but I'll suck their A$$ when they win. Bunch of bandwagoners!

Wow, I don't know if anyone was listening to Mike Schoop today but his show is just awful. If you don't agree with the topic - they don't let you on. What a bunch of pu$$y's. Buffalo needs another, unbiased sports talk show cause this station makes me sick.

Sorry, no link. I just heard it on the radio. Schumer confirmed with the NFL that the Revenue Sharing Meetings WILL take place this Janaury and Ralph will attend. Go get em' Ralph!

Would you be offended if the Bills aggressively pushed this at you, as a season ticket holder? How imperative that these seats be placed near your existing seats?

I guess you don't know Boston fans very well.

This town has no choice. We MUST support both during good times and bad. Go BUFFALO

fin heaven is fricking joke. I was having fun and intelligent banter all week @ fin heaven-leading right up to the start of the game. yesterday, i went back to say "hello" and i was blocked! wonder if they block all opposing fans... they're so !

You totally missed my point. I'm not arguing for or against a new stadium; I'm talking about the Bills leaving WNY all together.

Thanks. Again, I'd like to see Ralph do something more productive on this issue. Right now, he is losing credibility with the league and polarizing our franchise from the rest. I honestly don't buy into the fact that the league/national media wants the Bills out of Buffalo. There is no proof to that whatsoever. I would argue that the Bills existence/success in the NFL is just as an important, if not more, than placing a team in LA. The Buffalo Bills have a great history in the league. Our fan base is enormous and world-wide. We deserve a strong, passionate leader who we can trust will do all in their power to keep the Bills in Buffalo. However, the Bills also need a top notch marketing arm to tap into our base. At one time, the Bills were king in WNY/S.Ontario. Now, there are just too many options for folks to spend their entertainment dollars. Ralph needs to catch up and lose the ego. Mr. Wilson, do the right thing - bring in Tom Golisano. Prove to us that you’re open to seeing this work. Tom has made his interest known throughout the community. Put the issue of the Bills leaving Buffalo to rest, for once and all; continuing to let this malaise hang over us is not right and heartless. Go Buffalo!

Dear Ralph, The team looked great yesterday. An awesome win over Miami - made me feel great. Today, I have a bitter-sweet taste in my mouth - why? Wilson Not Optimistic About Future of Bills in Buffalo We can’t even go one day, enjoy the win without you reminding us about our uncertain future. Personally, I’m tired of it. I’m tired of hearing you B word, moan, and not make any moves to stand up to the NFL. Keep up the good work on the revenue sharing fight - it is a cause worth fighting. While you continue to plant seeds within the community and enable the national stage that Buffalo cannot support the Bills and their eminent demise is near - why not take it one step further; stand up to the big market teams and PROVE that you can be successful here… How about selling half the team to Golisano and/or a group of local investors and let fresh blood come into the administrative and leadership roles at One Bills Drive and help you with your cause? Yeah, I know, Buffalo will n-e-v-e-r be NYC and/or Dallas and see $250,000 per suite. BUT, guess what? Nor will Green Bay, New Orleans, Jacksonville, Cleveland, Kansas City, Tampa Bay, Tennessee, St. Louis, Detroit, Indianapolis, San Diego, Oakland, Cincinnati, or Minnesota! More than half the league would dream to have revenue like that! You've done your best the past 40 years and I am forever thankful that you chose Buffalo for the Bills... and I know all the noise you're making today is on behalf of our team’s long term success here in Buffalo. (Although, I'd appreciate it if you'd stop making Buffalo out to be a third world country - it's starting to eat at me a bit!) But before you let the Bills bail on Buffalo - this Bills community; which stretches from Syracuse to Toronto --> deserves another shot at local ownership, leadership and success. I can see Tom Golisano putting together a strong team to reach out to other owners in the league to make this revenue sharing deal a win-win for everyone. I could also see Tom reaching deep into his business contacts and partners from CNY to Southern Ontario - to help buy out those suites at higher rates. You can see a powerful sports marketing collaboration between the Bills and Sabres – that would help both teams flourish in Central-Western NY and Southern Ontario. Ralph, I love all that you've done for WNY... you have no idea how much pride this team bring to this community. I appreciate you sticking with the community for this long... and I hope that you/we see a *Buffalo* Bills Championship soon - but please note: The Bills need a new face – a new approach – but not a new home! God bless and Merry Christmas

Yea, I read the drama on this damn board daily... why? It's called my love for everything/anything Buffalo. Go Bills

NFL | Los Angeles might not receive a team soon Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:36:25 -0800 The Associated Press reports NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said Los Angeles might not receive a franchise soon. The league had hoped to put an expansion team there in 2002, but the franchise went to Houston after civic leaders and potential ownership groups could not agree on a stadium site. "I think there has been a misunderstanding in the past that we have to be in Los Angeles. I think we've proven that we don't have to be in Los Angeles. Los Angeles is a wonderful community. It's got great sports fans. It's got great football fans. It's got great NFL fans. We want to be back there. But only on the basis of being successful for the community and for the NFL," Goodell said.

Tom Golisano's thoughts on the Bills from the Buffalo News on 12/03/06: PT: Did you ever think of buying the Bills? TG: The Bills, like the Sabres - even more so - are a huge asset to this community. I'd hate to see them leave. On the other side of the coin, I've seen no activity at all to indicate they are available to anybody, so I don't spend any time thinking about it. I'm sure Ralph Wilson has his plans under control, and if they ever become available and people want to talk about it, I'm sure I'd talk about it.

What are you worried about? You're stuck in Cincy!

A new Bills stadium will be funded by the state, period. And yes, don't worry folks, the Bills will stay in Buffalo, forever.

Giants, Jets Receive $300 Million in NFL Stadium Loan By Aaron Kuriloff Dec. 7 (Bloomberg) -- The New York Giants and Jets received approval for $300 million in National Football League loans toward a shared $1.2 billion stadium in the New Jersey Meadowlands. Representatives of the league's teams, meeting in Dallas, voted 30-2 to grant each New York franchise $150 million through a program that provides financing for stadium construction, Giants co-owner Steve Tisch said in an interview. No other single project has received more than $150 million since the NFL's program began in 1999. ``With no other obstacles, we're in good position to break ground in the spring,'' Tisch said. The Jets-Giants request risked being the first that the owners rejected. Some owners were concerned that increased revenue from the new stadium, once added to the players' salary pool, would boost payrolls for all teams. Owners of both teams said the privately financed stadium was contingent on the $300 million NFL contribution. The NFL players union said this week it was willing to cut the salary ceiling by $800 million over 15 years to reduce the stadium's impact on other teams. It said a new facility would raise salaries by around $2 million a year. With financing secure, the next step for the stadium project is an environmental-impact hearing Dec. 13-14 before two New Jersey state commissions. Share Stadium The Giants and Jets said they should get twice the usual loan because they are the only NFL teams sharing a facility. They agreed to split the costs of replacing 30-year-old Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, New Jersey, after the Jets were unable to get public funding for a stadium on Manhattan's West Side. The teams' plans call for building an 84,000-seat stadium next door to Giants Stadium, with a footprint of about 630,000 square feet, according to a document submitted to the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection and the Meadowlands Commission, which will hold the hearings next week. The Giants plan to build a 20-acre training facility in the southwest corner of the development, along with parking areas and tailgating zones. Broadcast facilities, sports medicine clinics, stores, restaurants and a New Jersey Transit rail spur also are part of the project. Playing in the U.S.'s largest market, the Giants had annual revenue of $182 million, according to a 2006 listing by Forbes magazine, while the Jets had about $179 million. The Washington Redskins led the league, with $303 million. Revenue A new stadium might help both New York teams generate more money from skyboxes, luxury seating, parking, concessions and naming rights, even after borrowing for construction, said Craig Depken, who teaches sports economics at the University of Texas, Arlington. Depken said the average NFL team gains about $20 million in profit annually from a new stadium. ``I imagine at current rates, the debt will be something like $20-25 million a year, so they'll need to get more than the $20 million league average,'' Depken said. ``I have no doubt they'll get it.'' The teams may make more money, and help pay for the stadium, by selling seat licenses, a one-time fee for a transferable permit to buy tickets, said Max Muhleman, president of Private Sports Consultants in Charlotte, North Carolina, who has worked on stadium projects for the Carolina Panthers and other NFL teams. ``They receive ownership or equity in their seats that can be transferred or sold if they wish,'' Muhleman said. ``This is not a front-burner need, but it could contribute a significant amount of capital, around $90 or $100 million.'' Revenue Restrictions Other teams don't share in local revenue that new stadiums generate, such as money from luxury seats, skyboxes, parking and naming rights. Because the NFL's labor agreement calculates the salary ceiling as a percentage of total league revenue, the new stadium also will raise player salaries for all teams. Ralph Wilson, owner of the Buffalo Bills, was one of two owners to vote against the labor agreement in March 2006. U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer, a New York Democrat, joined Wilson in an Oct. 10 news conference saying the agreement threatened the NFL's competitive balance because it left teams such as Buffalo with income pegged to the local economy and expenses dictated by teams in bigger markets such as New York City, Washington or Dallas. Gene Upshaw, president of the National Football League Player's Association, said this week that the union would accept an $800 million cut over 15 years in the salary limit -- $102 million per team this season -- in order to alleviate concerns about labor costs to other teams. Cowboys owner Jerry Jones also said in an interview in October that owners were working to mitigate revenue differences and called giving the Giants and Jets $300 million a ``reasonable approach.'' ``I think we are working and have worked with the player's association to mitigate that revenue so it can take steps to clear the way for a new stadium,'' Jones said.

A New Football Stadium For Buffalo... What if?

Please explain to me your rationale when Jacksonville has to cover 7000 seats just to "sell out?"

yep - season ticket holder - and i live in boston, ma - next?

Disgraceful.