Meathead

well thank you for saying so. i will do my best as a culture advances it gets to a point where its abundance makes it obvious it has enough resources to permanently address an element of well being for all its citizens. we arrived at that point with food a while ago, theres enough resources so that nobody has to go hungry in america. it would be ridiculous to allow someone to starve in this country its time we take that step with healthcare. yes, its a difficult rock to push up the hill, but we definitely have the resources to do it. we should not be having our citizens compete on the ability to get competent healthcare when with some effort we would be able to accomplish serving everybody im glad don made the comment about australias healthcare. theres so many countries with much less than we have that are able to cover everyone. you cant tell me that we dont have the intelligence to at least replicate that, if not improve on it pretty dramatically yes, its going to cost more and we are going to have to make adjustments. yet its an idea whose time has come. we have the ability and we have recently generated the will as a collective. its going to happen as magox said, the people are making the choice of quantity over quality. i dont think its as dire as it sounds. even the bottom rung will be better than the nothing millions have had for way too long. options will develop that allow better means people to get better care however they do it, it has to be everybody participating. considering that every single person needs healthcare throughout their lives to get and stay healthy, i think thats very fair

on one partial way don is right, there really IS a lot of fake news in our mainstream media and its not just politics, its everything now. you have to cross reference everything to try to get a handle on how to shave off the spin and find the truth thats now buried under bull **** its a fkg plague on our culture and i cant entirely blame the media, either. we as citizens are the ones that are enabling it, incentivizing it. our fixation with social technology and its incredibly ease at creating insulated silos of groupthink has dramatically exacerbated this problem. we after all buy their stories, and its our own hardening of bias that enables it

thanks alf. i know not hard considering. theyve built a ѕhit chamber here where empty insults win. not hard to ignore it is annoying tho. our culture is in a bad time where we are literally manufacturing conflict. its little fkd up silos like the dominant element in this forum that are at the root this is exactly the kind of baseless abuse environment we need to resist to move out of this self-created ѕhithole here it the ѕhit tsunami that rules resist the asshollery!

Texas police officer who killed black teen could spend rest of his life in prison A suburban Dallas police officer was charged with murder after killing 15-year-old Jordan Edwards on April 29. A Texas police officer turned himself in on Friday after he was charged with murder in the shooting death of a 15-year-old. Roy Durwood Oliver, a patrol officer in the Dallas suburb of Balch Springs since July 2011, was released on $300,000 bail. If convicted of the murder charge, he could spend the rest of his life in prison. In a statement released Friday, Jordan’s family said the charge “brings hope that the justice system will bend against the overwhelming weight of our frustration.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/05/06/texas-police-officer-who-killed-black-teen-could-spend-rest-of-his-life-in-prison/?utm_term=.3e0d834e0f37 while i think its good hes going to jail, i dont know that a life sentence is appropriate. you would have to show literal malice against teens or that kid or blacks or whatever with forethought to be worthy of a life sentence. thats a super tough job, and deadly mistakes should seriously risk jail time. but life doesnt feel right, unless we find out some of that malice stuff existed

remove the hatefulness and that parts true on the hc front its republicans i whole heartedly disagree with. it is indeed greed and heartlessness that drives its main healthcare policy i wouldnt say hatefulness bc for most i dont think it goes that far. but it is a rigid worship of the idea that money equals worthiness, that we must let each individual keep as many pennies as they possibly can so that we can determine their worthiness very sick. petty and selfish. deeply disappointing theyve had many chances to deliver on hc and they never have. at least not nationally, its literally never. so what the hell else am i supposed to believe right wingers suck ass on healthcare. and since the gop is now driven by the fear of being 'primaried', that party sucks the most serious ass on hc right now

and yet im the retard

the free market doesnt work in healthcare mainly bc the insurance companies always end up defacto colluding to cover only the most profitable ppl: the well-off, the well-working, and the healthy in multiple instances throughout american history, they were caught actually intentionally colluding to that end. but even when they dont do it intentionally, thats the way it ends up as policies always coalesce to the natural and obvious heart of the profit curve. everyone else gets left with scraps at best what you end up with are armies of duplicated administrators sucking money from a system that becomes increasingly non-competition oriented thus healthcare simply is not well suited for reliance on the profit motive as a self-regulating entity

house plan getting absolutely scorched in national dialog. rightly so, its an utter piece of crap not to say that the popular opinion is always the right one, but don might have miscalculated by pushing through a known cartoon strip of a plan just to get it to the senate. now the entire thing starts from scratch, which is a monster undertaking. if the senate fails then don is right back where he started, except that now most of the country is pissed at him not just the right wingers a real solution needs to be bipartisan. he might regret starting that process before it even got to the senate. we'll see

well in reality what they passed didnt really matter. they could have passed a chinese food menu bc it would have to be reworked in the senate all they really did was completely pass the buck so they could get some happy camera time

lmao hes not such a great thrower when hes behind the los but when hes running downfield he can really uncork it

i think it is. i know several ppl on medicaid and theyve had surgeries and other conditions treated with nothing more than maybe a longer wait time the biggest difference ive seen is the quality of drs. the best drs dont take medicaid so youll never see them, but medicaid drs are usually still competent to address common conditions. its the one-offs that you have problems with, the unusual cases idk what kind of zoo abusive toms sister lives in but i expect hes exaggerating. i find it hard to believe theres only one pulmonologist in an area that has as many poor folks as wdc

medicaid sucks but its better than nothing. the only ppl that would be on medicaid would be the poorest that have no other option. being on it would mean longer wait times and lower quality drs. that would be incentive enough to get the hell off it if you can, but leave enough basic coverage that those ppl dont become liabilities to everyone later then medicare is for ppl that have paid in during their working years, or are currently working at a level above poverty but dont have better options through their employment. so they get better care but still not the best care then insurance companies would provide increasingly better policies for increasingly better coverage. this provides another level of incentive to succeed above the minimums, and allows the higher achievers to have the best coverage and care why wouldnt that work?

yes. and as you have so effectively pointed out, it will be expensive i was wondering, we say 'medicare for all' but what does that mean for medicaid? does medicaid go away? or could we make medicaid the default lowest rung (ie. poorest ppl), with standard medicare as the next rung (social security and default employed), and then have insurance companies sell policies above that for better coverage?

sincerely, the office of the bills and sabres president

horseѕhit america has always had elements of socialism. there isnt a better reason for it than the most abundant country in the history of healthcare to provide for all with one of our most abundant resources we can definitely cover all if we werent so damn petty and selfish

agreed good find

theyve been consistently pulling that crap for decades. by 'they' i mean exploitative blacks and enabling whites god bless ms ryan for her efforts, but this whole thing between her and don has been bullѕhit from the beginning i cant stand don, and yet i still dont see anything at all racist with his positions on this. SHE was the one who brought up the cbc. SHE is the one who asked him to meet with that group. then he says great im ready set something up are you friends with them, and in some bizarro universe thats racist?!? further evidence our entire race issue process is completely fkd in america. creating racism where none exists. fkg fantastic. talk about creating our own pain

well said exactly they are trying to erase some of the embarrassment of the original failure with a political gesture. on to the senate where it stands no chance as it is. so this step is nothing but fluff more wasted fkg time on bullѕhit this crap that we consistently get from the gop on hc is disgusting

of course its ridiculous that a man of his age and alleged experience could say something like that. its like he has the mind of a teenager with him we just add it to the pile

no it is not their right. by choosing to not be on insurance until you get sick you are stealing from the system its like a game. random events just happen. that doesnt matter to a lot of you bc it hasnt happened to you yet. should we let you wait until it does, or until you get signs its coming before you participate? or do we do what is going to happen WAAAY more often under doncare, do we let those hit with random events go bankrupt even when their random event is treatable and they could return to productive lives? hell the fk no everybody participates. everybody is covered

can you specify the area you are referring to? we do have some areas where the law enforcement system is broken and we need to address those aggressively my problem is with the broad-brushing. its the same disease that we claim to be fighting against

boring dickicitis

agreed ultimately its the only permanent solution. it should have been implemented decades ago

and completely ignores the occurrence of random events that frequently make ppl sick to no fault of their own whatsoever bad idea by the fraud chef