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3 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said:
He was there for the families of dead soldiers, Biden has pictures from Arlington used in campaign pictures, but I am not surprised you would dismiss the families wishes so that Biden looks better for completely forgetting them.
I have no problems with the families inviting him. They do not however get to decide Arlington National Cemetery policy. I expect them to follow the rules just like the rest of us.
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6 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said:
Tibs the fact that you are so impressed by bureaucracy is crazy and pathetic. We know what happened, Trump broke a rule by not having bureaucrat rubber stamp what he did. I care that he was invited by the families, I don't care what hoops he did not jump through.
This wasn't an oopsie. There was no bureaucratic "rubber stamp". Using Section 60 for political campaigns is illegal. There are not hoops to jump through to make it okay. This was made clear before and when he showed up. Nobody is criticizing him for going. He is deservedly being criticized for producing and issuing campaign adds off of this.
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2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:
He’s heating up…….got Dems to talk about the Afghanistan debacle for over a week for absolutely no reason.
But thanks for reminding us what happened
Like I said, he is using these families.
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1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
That’s the allegation, and yet the Army has indicated that no charges are necessary.
With respect to showing up, meeting with the family and honoring their request—even if misguided, is the ultimate sign of respect even if other veterans disagree, as some surely will.
The army is saying the woman decline to press charges. The didn't say no charges are necessary.
It wasn't misguided. When someone is buried in Arlington National Cemetery, they are given a set of rules of what is and what is not allowed. They knew this ran afoul of ANC rules. Trump knew this ran afoul of ANC rules. They did it anyway which is in disrespectful to the funerals and other families visiting ANC at that time. Trump and you are disgusting they way you used these families as shields to justify this abhorrent behavior.
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3 minutes ago, B-Man said:
Nobody is calling for any such thing. This is nothing more than fear mongering.
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17 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
Whether this played out as alleged is hard to say. However, he took the time to go to the cemetery, meet with the family of fallen soldiers and apparently honored their wish for a photograph. While apologies may be in order here—I’m not certain a candidate or president could show more respect.
Yes he could have. He was told before, when he arrived and during his visit to ANC to not take pictures and not use it as a campaign event. His group assaulted a woman to have their way. That is not in any way shape or form respectful.
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20 minutes ago, aristocrat said:
trump using the service for a photo op or your guy lying for years that he was in combat when he never went. whats worse?
Deflection.
Both are bad. One doesn't Excuse the other.
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6 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:
He did.But why would this be a phot op for Trump anyway in the first place?
Why did the Hoover family invite Trump there?
What happened that Trump somehow benefits politically from being there?
I don’t get it?
He didn't quietly pay his respects, as evidenced by all the noise generated by it.
The Hoover family isn't being respectful of other families, so I really don't respect their desire to use Arlington National Cemetery.
If Trump doesn't benefit, why did he release the photos with music and make a political speech voiceover?
I have no respect for anyone who hides behind these families like you are doing now.
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1 minute ago, Big Blitz said:
Much like you don’t care about anything regarding your nominee, it’s character bc it doesn’t talk to you and answers important questions without them being pre recorded and staged, or that you need it to speak to the American people off script far more often as to give us the opportunity to judge its character bc that’s what free societies do………I just don’t care.
Don’t ask me to care about anything you’ve whined Obama Didn’t Build That style in here when you can’t even expect your machines candidate to have to literally show itself to the American people that could vote for it………I just don’t care.
You see what that feels like now? Only it’s for something that actually matters and is very real. Not whatever the hell this is.
Well that is a whole lot of deflection to avoid a pretty basic topic, decency and respect at a cemetery. Apparently that doesn't matter and isn't real. You are truly disgusting.
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2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:
Who do you think your machine runs for you in 2028?
This is related to showing decency and respect at a cemetery how?
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5 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:
This is “Obama’s birth certificate” or “you didn’t build that” desperation bad.
Hoever. This is what it sounds like when you know you’re losing.
You find showing expecting decency and respect at a cemetery funny?
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3 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said:
Trump was there as a memorial to people who died for our country, the fact that you deny that truly means you should examine how deep you TDS runs. You can state lots of political junk but when you lie about basic facts it is sad.
Why did he need to take pictures, especially after he had been told repeatedly not to do so? Why do you keep dodging this question?
46 minutes ago, Roundybout said:
The ones trying to get clout though Trump? Hell yeah I am. ***** ‘em for using their loved ones for their bizarre obsession with Donny
I have to disagree with denigrating the families, at least without more information. The families may not be in the best state of mind when losing a son or daughter. The emotions are just too high and raw. They certainly aren't considering the families of other Arlington National Cemetery service members.
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11 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said:
I am sure someone can explain why these are ok but Trump is the problem.
Why did he need to take pictures to pay his respects?
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1 minute ago, K D said:
It's videos of her saying all of those things smart guy lol. Were those "cheap fakes?"
You have to click it broooo
I see nothing but text.
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5 minutes ago, K D said:
Here you go, video evidence of everything in this thread
A tweet from a rando isn't proof.
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42 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said:
This thread is hilarious, the very people who are voting for a women who had 600 convictions overturned because she used information from a known crooked source thinks I should be more bothered by Trump not following social convention. Y'all defended Biden when he checked his watch but are upset Trump wanted pictures
There is the deflection, as predicted.
40 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:Not sure but here’s how you end it
That won't end it.
Trump's team was told that they could not take pictures or film in Section 60. There are reasons for this. Arlington Cemetery performs 27 funerals per day. For those who were not cremated, all the coffins end up getting buried in the same section side by side by side. As a result, it is impossible to perform all those funerals in the location where the burial will take place. The funerals are thus spread around to different sections of the cemetery with multiple ceremonies happening at the same time or overlapping in time. People are told at the end that this is not where their loved one will be buried but are given the plot number for future visits. Also, families may be visiting their loved ones in Section 60 and some level of solemnity, respect and privacy is expected.
Whether or not the Gold Star families invited Trump really isn't relevant. It certainly shouldn't give him a free pass. While I am sorry for their loss, these families aren't thinking through the ramifications of holding a campaign event where funerals are happening. Those families are not respecting the families and loved ones of other deceased servicemen.
Trump could have quietly paid his respects in Section 60 without cameras. he could have just paid his respects. But NOOOOO! Paying respect is not what this was about. Trump used this only for his benefit only. He used this for a photo op. He is using those servicemen and their families.
Hiding behind the Gold Star families is even more pathetic. Have some decency.
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11 minutes ago, K D said:
If Trump didn't film it they would say he didn't go and he doesn't care about the military. Luckily everything is filmed and online so we can decide for ourselves who the scumbags are. Hint, it's the ones that got these soldiers killed and then didn't show up
I don't think anyone would have thought anything about it if he hadn't gone. If he cared so much, why did he wait until ~ 2 months before an election?
You think it is okay to disrupt ongoing funerals for this photo op?
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7 hours ago, SCBills said:
“I just want this to end”Says the man upset the media makes this the story, when Trump was invited by Gold Star Families and had the decency to show up.. compared to Biden/Harris, who it’s now being reported have never reached out to the families.
Those that can’t separate Trump’s actual problems (and he has many) from the media contrived issues that they then project on him, are why a Harris Presidency is a real possibility.
Low info, easily manipulated voters who still believe the media is an accurate arbiter of the truth.
7 hours ago, SCBills said:
Yes, I prefer the guy who pretends to care over the people who caused this to happen with their incompetence and can’t even be bothered to express condolences to the families.
When it’s been 3 years and still they can’t reach out, yet somehow Trump visiting the cemetery at the request of Gold Star families is the story our media is fixated on…
Biden did meet the families.
Trump's team was told that they could not take pictures or film in Section 60. There are reasons for this. Arlington Cemetery performs 27 funerals per day. For those who were not cremated, all the coffins end up getting buried in the same section side by side by side. As a result, it is impossible to perform all those funerals in the location where the burial will take place. The funerals are thus spread around to different sections of the cemetery with multiple ceremonies happening at the same time or overlapping in time. People are told at the end that this is not where their loved one will be buried but are given the plot number for future visits. Also, families may be visiting their loved ones in Section 60 and some level of solemnity, respect and privacy is expected.
Whether or not the Gold Star families invited Trump really isn't relevant. It certainly shouldn't give him a free pass. While I am sorry for their loss, these families aren't thinking through the ramifications of holding a campaign event where funerals are happening. Those families are not respecting the families and loved ones of other deceased servicemen.
Trump could have quietly paid his respects in Section 60 without cameras. he could have just paid his respects. But NOOOOO! Paying respect is not what this was about. Trump used this only for his benefit only. He used this for a photo op. He is using those servicemen and their families.
I'd prefer somebody who doesn't pretend.
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8 minutes ago, Doc said:
You know what I mean. Running scared isn't a negotiating tactic. Trump will still appear on Fox on September 4th and have the stage all to himself.
And this is different from Fox's normal programming how?
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6 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:
RFK is right on this issue.
As much as you can, shop the perimeter of your grocery store.
People should follow RFK Jr.'s lead. They should harvest all natural road kill to feed their families. At worst you might have to deal with the occasional brain eating worm .
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2 hours ago, Tenhigh said:
You deserved that!
I'm not so sure that isn't a parody Twitter handle. Name is "The Femminist Turned Housewife". The description says "All opinions are my husband's ".
There can't possibly be a woman that funny.
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1 minute ago, Tenhigh said:
You do you, buddy
The Constitution is for all of us.
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32 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:
Your guys should have whomever you'd like for a candidate, but thankfully you all stopped pretending you care so much about "democracy".
Where are primaries mentioned in the Constitution?
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2 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:
The superseding indictment was to get the charges to conform with Fischer vs United States and Trump vs United States.
Arlington Cemetery a clear eyed examination
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Having read Harris's statement, I see nothing wrong with it. Arlington National Cemetery is not the place for politics.