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11 minutes ago, TPS said:
We haven't had free markets in a long time. With each crisis, the FED intervenes in more and more markets creating the expectation they will always bail out Wall Street...because they do bail out Wall Street. It's difficult to put the genie back in the bottle. Wall Street likes socialism when they benefit...
How far back are you talking in your opinion?
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3 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:
That is certainly a valid point. I guess I was hoping to point out to Trump supporters, that there are likely similar suspicious happenings in all states, not just the states that Trump is currently targeting. And, also to highlight the foolishness in lobbying for flipping states based on suspicious video clips.
Very valid points. Voter fraud isn't limited to one side or the other. A Trump supporter in Pennsylvania for example tried to vote twice. There also seemed to be a thought that a recount would go in Trumps favor, or at least narrow Trumps loss. Recounts of vote tallies have a 50/50 chance of going against you. A recount in Georgia may have narrowed Trump's loss as uncounted votes did show up in pro-Trump counties. However recounts in Wisconsin and Michigan I believe actually caused Trump's loss to widen.
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39 minutes ago, Unforgiven said:
https://www.axios.com/china-spy-california-politicians-9d2dfb99-f839-4e00-8bd8-59dec0daf589.html
Scream about Russia while colluding with China, nice
You can tell who the real dirty rats are....they protest the loudest.
Democrat party, raping and pillaging America, 2020
Can't be true. It comes from a fake news source.
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21 minutes ago, Tiberius said:
You see the difference, right?
1) No one has said it is "endless" except for you
2) It is, but the government has to adjust the rules as situations change.
3) Proof? You saying that retirees have a bigger stake in the overall game than people investing in stock market? I'll need to see proof of that
1. Jerome Powell said so on 60 Minutes.
2. Then you do not have free markets.
3. https://www.fool.com/knowledge-center/5-bond-market-facts-you-need-to-know.aspx
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54 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:
Without seeming to advocate for an election re-do, shouldn’t the left point up suspicious happenings in FL and say, TX? If all that is needed to throw out or flip a state’s electoral votes is suspicion, I am confident taking that same comb to those states would cast sufficient similar suspicion to flip those, is it 67, electoral votes to Biden. Thoughts?
There is no reason for Biden to sink to Trump's level. 306 Electoral votes is sufficient. There are more important things for the incoming administration to focus on than contributing to the circus.
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1 hour ago, Tiberius said:
1) How is that a bubble?
2) "Artificially" low? Is there a natural place for interest rates?
3) Fixed income investors don't have enough wealth to create a stock bubble
1) You don't think that the ability to print and endless amount of money and buy bonds doesn't create a bubble?
2) The market should be set by buyers and sellers that are putting money at risk. The Fed risks nothing. Benn Bernanke, Janet Yellen and Jerome Powell have no skin in the game yet controlled markets with made up money.
3) The fixed income market is much larger than the stock market, If fixed income investors can't get a return in bonds, they are forced to take more risk, which bubbles up stock prices. Again, this is happening because of the Fed, which isn't taking any real risk to the Fed Chairman or the Governors.
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1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:
Bingo! A very good summary. It was a classic example of bad, if well intentioned, public policy running head first into private capitalism. Bad things tend to be the natural result.
Bad policy? Yes. A Ponzi scheme, that it was not.
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1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:
Thanks for the response
My point is a simple one. Let the system do it’s job. Let the process work. All of these election challenges will play themselves out in due time. Just like the Russia Hoax, just like the Ukrainian debacle, this is all just inside baseball squabbling between two sides engaged in a political tug of war. Is it ugly? Yes it is. Is one side totally to blame? No, they’re not. It’s the result of the country reaching yet another philosophical governing crossroads. We’ve been through it before and survived for over 200 years.
The process has played itself out. Trump L-L-LOST. Pressuring governors or legislatures to disenfranchise their citizens is not part of the process. The Republicons are reducing our country to a Banana Republic.
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10 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
How come we only get to puppet dictator status when the courts are involved?
Because if the Thief in Chief hasn't limited himself to embarrassing court appearances that have been routinely denied with prejudice. He tried to stop counting of ballots, sought to disenfranchise entire cities and states and tried to get state legislatures and governors to go against the voted results in their states to install him illegally.
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32 minutes ago, SoTier said:
Which "bubble" are you referring to? The housing bubble that collapsed and led to the panic that froze the financial markets in 2008? That was fueled by reckless lending practices that developed into what was essentially a Ponzi scheme by several of the largest mortgage lenders.
I'm talking about the bubble in bonds caused by the Federal Reserve printing money then using that money to buy bonds. This has caused interest rates to fall to artificially low levels. Fixed income investors can't get a return on their investments and are forced to take greater risks, which has led to a bubble in stocks as well.
I would stipulate that if inflation rises, the game the Fed has been playing will come to an end. Large investors will short bonds and stocks and this bubble will burst badly.
How was the housing bubble a Ponzi scheme? It was bad lending. These risky mortgages were backed by insurance that was insufficient to cover the losses when adjustable rate mortgages went up in response to the Fed raising short term rates. That's not a Ponzi scheme as I understand it.
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My grandfather was a fire fighter in Honolulu. They ended up fighting fires for 3 days at Hickam Field. One of his company was killed in a strafing attack.
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On 12/7/2020 at 2:42 PM, Bidens_basement said:
SCOTUS is the only court that counts.
Today the Thief in Chief said "Let's see whether or not somebody has the courage, whether it's legislators or legislatures or a justice of the Supreme Court or a number of justices of the Supreme Court," Trump said. "Let's see if they have the courage to do what everybody in this country knows is right." Today the Supreme Court answered. They did have the courage to do what everybody in this country knows is right. They denied a request from Pennsylvania Republicons to block certification of the Pennsylvania election results. There were no dissents. It is over.
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5 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
That's hogwash. Complete poppycock.
When faced with being steamrolled by an adversary with unlimited resources and the power to crush you and anyone around you love, decisions have to be made. When the government case unravelled--as it did, it was certainly possible for even the most well-intentioned judge to follow the recommendations of the justice department.
Well, he could have avoided all this by not lying. If he really did nothing, he shouldn't have accepted the pardon. The man has no honor.
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1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
You have to give him credit, Judge Sullivan was substantially committed to ruining the man’s life. Finally, closure on some level.
Flynn controlled what Flynn did, including admitting to the charges 3 times now. He has no one to blame but himself.
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To me, this is all courtesy of a Federal Reserve that is printing money and using it to buy bonds, crowding out private investors. This is a bigger bubble to solve the last bubble. When this bubble bursts, it ain't gonna be pretty.
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1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
See again... you paint Gore as some heroic figure.
Again? Where did I ever paint Gore as some heroic figure before?
1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:He wasn’t, he was a partisan looking to overturn the election. He lost the election. It was done. He chose to try a Hail Mary and swing for the fences. He lost because his argument was weak, regardless of it was 537 votes or 57,370. He lost because he was wrong...and still the Republic survived
What does that say about Trump? Gore was behind by 1784 votes on election night. The margin was so close that it generated an automatic recounts and the margin dropped to 327. If that was a Hail Mary or swinging for the fences, Trump must be trying to jump the Pacific on a Harley. Oh wait, the cancel culturalist in chief canceled Harley Davidson, a Confederate suites him better. Trump is behind by 10,457 in Arizona, 11,779 in Georgia, 154,188 in Michigan, 33,596 in Nevada, 81,660 in Pennsylvania and 20,682 in Wisconsin.. He lost by larger margins than he Hillary in 2016. Recounts have reaffirmed Trumps losses. He has taken the extraordinary step of asking courts to disenfranchise cities and legislatures to set aside the vote and seat electors for him. Gore came nowhere close to anything like that undemocratic behavior.
Let's face it, Trump is a partisan looking to overturn the election. He lost the election. It is done. He lost because his argument is weak, regardless of it was 11,779 votes or 7,061,839. He lost because he is wrong.
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On 12/7/2020 at 5:19 PM, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
Again, at the risk of appearing rude, the question of evidence or lack thereof is best answered by you. I don’t care one way or the other what you think or feel. That’s the beauty of being an American.
If you believe there is evidence, I am asking you to provide said evidence. The fact that you can't do so speaks volumes.
On 12/7/2020 at 5:19 PM, leh-nerd skin-erd said:As for damaging the republic, I have a few thoughts on that. First, the republic is strong enough to withstand legal challenges that come with results a candidate chooses to bring. We saw that with Gore v The Republic, which ended the way it started.
Bush vs Gore involved 1 state and 537 votes. Given the exceedingly slim margin, (0.009%) recounts were reasonable. At the end, Gore did what was good for the country and conceded, graciously, with a call for unity. Trump has to flip multiple states. Trump lost all these by far greater margins than Gore did in Florida in 2000, hasn't produced any evidence that any judge found remotely convincing and every recount has reaffirmed the original result. Trump lost. Never did Gore remotely suggest that the voters in entire cities or entire states should be disenfranchised and the election thrown to state legislators. There is a wide chasm between these two cases.
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21 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
I admitted nothing, Comrade. I simply acknowledged your feelings as yours and moved on.
Again, though, if you’re right, what’s the problem?
I will ask again, what evidence?
The problem is that elections are the backbone of a democracy. When you call into question the very basis the republic is built upon with no substantive reason, you are damaging the republic. Trump's only reason for doing this is to damage Biden's presidency and to fleece his supporters wallets. Either that or his is insane.
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4 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
The evidence submitted. Or lack thereof if you prefer. Either way, I don’t really care.
What evidence has been submitted? And if you admit that there is a lack thereof, is there anything to consider?
It just keeps coming back to the same conclusion. Trump lost.
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7 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
See, that’s the spirit. I really don’t know why all you folks are fussing so much. You seem to have it in the bag, but there’s an awful lot of hand wringing about things. My advice—just look at what the evidence presented is, consider whether or not it’s valid, and process accordingly.
Sure. What evidence?
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2 minutes ago, Bidens_basement said:
You have no clue what evidence they have or not have.
If they have evidence, it hasn't been presented in any court in any way that it was considered credible.
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1 minute ago, Bidens_basement said:
Why are you against making sure there was no fraud committed? You were gung ho over the fake Russian collusion, but now, all of a sudden the election was legit? There are thousands of poll workers who were sworn under oath, videos of counting ballots after they supposedly stopped counting.
This whole election has been crooked as hell. But hey, screw the country as long as your side wins.
Its funny how whatever Team Trump is accusing you of is exactly what they are trying to do themselves.
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1 minute ago, Bidens_basement said:
It will. It's too important to our nation not too.
Actually, it would be a farce for anything other than the 1 suit about Pennsylvania receiving and counting votes after election day made it to the Supreme Court. Team Trump hasn't provided evidence that would overturn any state, let alone multiple states. And as for the 1 case in Pennsylvania, that wouldn't change the results either.
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5 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:
This seems like a legit argument...Do you know if the Trump campaign has attempted to counter this point?
No, They know that many of his followers live in the hermetically sealed Fox/OAN/Newsmax/Trump circular reinforcement loop and don't believe anything outside of that circle. They just keep deceiving so they can keep grifting. Do you know that you have to give $5001 to the recount fund he has been touting before $1 goes to the actual recount? The rest goes to a Super Pac for him, to retire his campaign's debt and to the RNC. This is nothing but a con by the conman in chief.
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This is repetitive and non-responsive to what I wrote. You seem to think we are following a process that is in place. Please describe the process.
I recall that Hillary Clinton conceded on the night of the election. She raised no legal challenges. She didn't go to any governor or legislator asking them to disenfranchise their citizens. She attended Trump's inauguration. All this she did while winning the popular vote.
Trump and the Republicons are just sore, whiny L-L-Losers.