Dr. Who
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1 hour ago, Logic said:
I think Thomas and Jones are beyond cooked. I doubt either of them are at all superior to Shavers or Shorter at this point.
My money might be on OBJ given their prior interest and his ability to be a mentor of sorts to Coleman. I wouldn't rule out a Zay Jones or Hunter Renfrow, though.I don't really like any of those names, though that's probably the sort of player you're looking at. Still praying there's a super-secret plan to get Aiyuk. Sure wish they could have doubled up and grabbed McConkey, because I think he's the missing piece that would have made the WR room complete with the addition of Coleman.
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4 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:
Sounds to me like the Bills (and probably NFL teams in general) are waiting on Hyde's decision to either seek another NFL contract or hang 'em up for good. Beane said all but the retirement part out loud recently. He said the Bills do not yet know/are waiting to hear what Hyde has decided. WHAT Hyde is deciding on exactly, I guess, could be whether to agree to whatever modest contract number the Bills have proposed, if they've even gotten that far with his agent, versus continuing to seek more money and/or term elsewhere...but I strongly suspect it's more existential than that at this stage. My read is, like you @billsfan89, that Hyde is considering retirement...and also that the Bills would 100% welcome him back at a modest number for one more run if he decides to suit it up again in 2024. Kind of a no brainer for the team, but all contingent on the player.
I think this sounds right, and I appreciate the well-crafted sentences.
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5 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:
You know a bunch of people here compare him to Kelvin Benjamin, right?
Why give them this ammo?
Nah, if you don't love to eat, you can't be Buffalo. Food, the Bills, pray God, the Sabres, it's what we do.
Addendum, and if you listen to the conversation in context, the fella is very focused and bright. This is not someone who is indulgent, but actually pretty wise about allowing a small amount of comfort food into a diet that is not foolish. Not taking care of himself and getting out-of-shape is not going to be one of his vices.
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3 minutes ago, Doc said:
I disagree with this. The Bills let Morse and Bates go because their plan was to have McGovern start at center. Van Pran appears to be strictly a center and as such I think they'll give him a chance to compete with McGovern. If he proves to be superior, which will be tough but not impossible, they'll start him at center and move McGovern back to LG. Edwards and Collins will be competing against each other for the LG spot, unless/until Van Pran wins the center spot.
I think the point that some folks are making is that they are granting that head-to-head, McGovern will win against SVP, no matter how talented he may be, because professional experience goes a long way, and even though Van Pran was excellent at the collegiate level (I am an UGA fan, he was), it doesn't match the kind of experience McGovern has accrued. The way that SVP is not competing against McGovern is in the holistic synthesis of the best starting five. It may be that McGovern at LG with Van Pran at center is part of the most effective grouping.
It is in that way that Van Pran does not have to prove to be superior to McGovern at Center, but as the Center that allows McGovern to play LG. If that contributes to the better Oline, it will happen. And long-term, I say Van Pran will develop into a starting Center for many years.
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54 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
They always say the interview process leading up the draft is a job interview. If I were a GM looking to hire a WR and Keon Coleman gave me those answers. I’m hiring him.
I honestly was blown away by his answers relating to football and life away from football.
Yeah, he was not on my list of favorites, but you start listening to the fella, I sure hope he can play, because I don't think I could pass on him either.
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51 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:
It is from an older language translated as an Orator has finished with a proclamation.
I deem it so, was also used.
Means , No more is to be discussed.
And now
I have spoken 😇
Yes, I know something of the oratorical tradition. I was just making a joke, but the fella apparently didn't think it was funny.
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2 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said:
The talent we have is decent. And it would work for almost any QB. But therein lies the problem, Josh Allen is not any QB! Give the man two legitimate outside WRs! Stop trying to have Josh outdo Brock Purdy and Mac Jones/Zach Wilson with the dink and dunk.
Brady made do with what he had last year. He adjusted the offense to hide G Davis who singlehandedly got Dorsey fired. Brady was also given permission to unleash Josh's running- which was a decision made during desperate times.
But in order to properly judge J Brady's abilities he should be supplied with a full arsenal of weapons. This should include one top tier veteran WR (sorry C Samuel). Then the offense should be dynamic, and if it then isn't Brady should be held accountable.
I've said it before, but I always knew Einstein's dog wrote all his papers.
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10 minutes ago, Sweats said:
Some people have actually watched a little more than a YouTube video to assess this guy, myself included and to judge a guy's talents only from social media outlets and YouTube is grossly negligent and irresponsible.
Go back and watch full Michigan State and FSU games (you can find them on YouTube.......apparently, you are a YouTube master, so you'll figure it out) and watch the complete package on this guy. It's not always the plays that you see on highlight reels that highlight his skills, but it's the plays he makes that you won't see on social media outlets.......the blocking, slant routes, etc.
That is all i have to say to you, sir.
I have noticed that you have a habit of announcing that you have spoken when you "speak," which is redundant, though rhetorically memorable. I hope it does not become a contagion that results in an unspoken rule. It would be tiresome if everyone who posts informs folks that they have spoken.
I have spoken.
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2 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:
Did Dumerville have those freakishly long arms though?
Turns out 32.6" versus Solomon at 34"...so advantage our guy. But not at all a terrible comp overall.
If we got the long-armed Dumerville, huge win. If he adds juice on the edge, the D could really be improved.
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1 minute ago, Warcodered said:
Really that's what it has to be, it couldn't be that through the process Beane has interacted with him and knowing the Bills fanbase is a little excited for them get to know a guy he knows they'll enjoy. Or hell it could even be that Beane getting a bunch of stupid ***** for the pick but he knows that when people listen to the guy they're going to really like the guy.
But no it has to be some sort of conspiracy against the team and city because that makes more sense. 😭
If you don't know about the lizard people, I really can't help you.
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2 hours ago, T master said:
My bad sorry !! I think they should have taken Legette at 32 and i feel they could have traded their 60th pick and a couple others like a 4 & a 5 to get up to get Keon .
Legette or Coleman was going to be the X. If you take one at 32, you should have traded up for McConkey, in my view. Doesn't matter now.
I think you're spending a 2025 second and maybe a bit more to move up from 60 to 33.
I do hope they bring in a veteran after 6/1. If there really was a secret plan to trade for Aiyuk, well, that would be grand, but it's probably soap bubbles.
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2 hours ago, appoo said:
This kid has me dying
He's an incredibly likable kid, with natural charisma. Very easy to root for.
It will be both thrilling and heartwarming if it all comes together and turns out well.
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37 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
He didn't say he is setting a low bar, he is saying all the people saying we "didn't replace Diggs and Davis" are not realizing how little production actually had to be replaced.
What has this team been in the past? SOFT. Diggs disappears in the postseason...Davis is not a smart player and had unreliable hands and was one dimensional. Those were our top 2 guys.
Now, we drafted a dawg in Coleman, how is open when not open, who has incredible hands and a massive catch radius and a redzone beast. Then we have Shakir who led the NFL in efficiency, catch rate, and yards per target in his 2nd year who is YAC beast. Then you have the sure handed Kincaid who is a mismatch for defenses and a big target in redzones. Then you add in a swiss army knife type guy in Samuel who has had between 50 and 80 catches 4 times (Davis never hit 50 even once) and runs a 4.3 forty and never had a chance to play with a real QB.
Instead of 2 guys who underachieve in the postseason, who drop passes when it matters (yes Diggs did too), and are too often taken out of games...we now have guys who go out and make plays, guys with sure hands, guys who are tough and cerebral.
Beane, like myself, got tired of the soft team that wasn't matching the toughness and physicality of its opponents preventing us from making that extra play or two to win these tough games where the other does make those extra plays or two.
I mean we probably beat KC last year if Diggs doesn't drop the bomb. Who did the Bills turn to for the go ahead TD on the final drive? Shakir ran a perfect route open to the endzone before Chris Jones bullied Dawkins back enough to step on Allens foot on the throw causing him to short arm it.
Diggs and Davis are addition by subtraction...just watch this year.
I understood the point, and I don't disagree with what you are saying. What I am saying is that one should not use the deficiency of the WR numbers for Diggs and Davis in the second half of the season as the baseline by which to measure the achievements of their replacements. Much more should be expected from a putative WR1 and WR2, even if one redistributes the targets and embraces a model that spreads the wealth and deemphasizes traditional roles. If you start with very little production and disappointment in the post-season as the bar to better, it won't be hard to achieve. The validity of Beane's choices needs a more difficult metric as a proper measure.
And I agree that there appears to be a shift towards tougher, more physical players. I am good with that.
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3 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:
I don't think Beane is looking at it as a punt year. But I also think the cap is mostly spent and the draft is over. Realistically, what can he do?
The only thing I can think of is bring in a veteran WR through trade, or someone who shakes loose because of the influx of WR talent acquired in the draft. Tre's post 6/1 money will get added to the cap and allow for an added player, whether at WR, S, or DL, I dunno, but that's where I guess it would be spent if he uses it.
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5 minutes ago, bearstobills said:
McConkey, after a long process, became my guy. But by the time the draft came, I just wasn't excited about him. And trust me, the guy is a master route runner/separator. He would've been plug and play. But I give Beane credit for taking Keon. He's somewhere between Josh Allen and Greg Rousseau in terms of draft picks. Allen had the 56 percent completion percentage that enraged Bills fans, and Coleman runs a 4.61 40. Beane looked past both of those numbers and took a chance. Rousseau also was not explosive and most of his sacks came from the inside. He was roundly derided by many draft analysts. He's been good and I think he'll get even better. Keon fits the same mold. There's just something about him that will figure this out. I'd be fine he had a Greg Rousseau type of career...day 1 starter, core player.
As for adding a player later....yes, yes, and yes. Walker would have been a brilliant addition. And who knew Hicks would be there at 95. They love Bishop though, so at least they got their guy. And yes, they needed a DT, and I think he'll be a good addition. But man oh man, if Walker hits, it will be tough to watch.
I live near Athens, and was and am very big on McConkey. If he stays healthy, he's going to be really good. And there's no question that McConkey and Mitchell can gain separation. I hope for the best on Coleman. Beane drafts traits, and he has some.
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1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said:
That is definitely true. If we drafted Worthy, fans would be complaining about our WR corps being too small, that we should have drafted someone bigger and people would be worried about us letting Coleman/Legette fall to the Chiefs.If we stayed at #32 and drafted Legette, he's a one-year wonder. If we drafted Mitchell, he's got diabetes and is an attitude problem. If we drafted McConkey, he's a "gritty slot" and not an X. There will always be detractors. Some of it is because Beane explicitly said he was looking for explosive receivers who would separate, and Coleman doesn't fit that profile.
22 minutes ago, BeastMaster said:He has tape where he's beaten guys
He ran a slant and go where the got the DB to bite and then got past him, and he has other plays where DB's held or grabbed him cause he had them beat. He threatens the defense at all levels, so corners will be susceptible to plays where he get's DB's to bite, and if they try to jam him or press him, he will win at the line and get open.
Alot of posters are going to eat crow on this kid. He's a baller that has tremendous skills and a strong basketball background that helps him have outstanding body control, shiftiness, and the ability to box out and win jump balls/contested catches.
I'm not reading many posters who are saying outright he is going to bust. There are questions about whether he can be an effective boundary receiver, because he does not separate at the college level, and that won't get easier with NFL dbs. And anybody who is a true Bills' fan wants him to succeed.
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4 hours ago, bearstobills said:
All good points. Although I love both of the last RB picks. I think James Cook fundamentally signaled a complete change of direction for this offense. Undynamic Singletary was replaced with very dynamic Cook. They did it again the next year upgrading Knox with Kincaid. They had Diggs over the last 4 years so a #1 was not a priority. I'm wondering....how did you want them to address wr in this year's draft?
I think you are largely right, and I don't think any of Beane's picks in this draft are such that one can argue they lack a plausible logic. I personally even like the flier on the British giant in round seven. I just do believe he has a quirk about WR from his Carolina days, and I do think it's a paleolithic tendency.
I would have taken McConkey. I would have traded up from 60 for Mitchell, and he could have gone to 50 to get him. I'd have been willing to use some 2025 capital if necessary to do that. You don't get Bishop that way, and I like Bishop. I would then have taken Hicks at 95, because he is a safety I think can play in our system. I don't know why he slid. That has cascading effects, because they did need to add DT.
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2 hours ago, Beck Water said:
We did give him guaranteed money, but it's not such a large amount we couldn't move on without flinching (by NFL standards) - $1.5M or so
Yeah, I think he's vulnerable, and I hope we find better, because I think he's running on fumes at this point.
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8 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said:
He claims he doesn't and that we are set at WR
Yes, I have heard that. I couldn't read the article without disabling an ad blocker. I am not technical, and don't want to disable the ad blocker, so I'll just take your word for it. He said as much in the after draft press conference I gather. He is either prevaricating, or that is his plan.
I remain dissatisfied with how he addressed the WR room. I don't think his concept of adequate matches my own. I've expressed this now multiple times, so much so that even I am bored with it. Nothing one can do, but hope for the best.
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18 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:
I mean they did average 27 points over the last 7 games. Our best receivers over that stretch will be back. Our best receivers from the playoffs will be back and we averaged 28 points in the playoffs. I hate to be the one with all the optimism but it doesn't all have to be gloom and doom. Maybe you don't take one of our WR's for your fantasy team but that doesn't mean we can't win.
My disappointment with the WR room does not indicate radical pessimism with regard to the team. I still expect to win the division, though I'm not presuming such. I don't at all engage in fantasy football. I don't care about stats so much as wins, but I'd rather roll teams than play close games. I'm getting too old for the stress.
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1 minute ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:
Who said it was acceptable? I said there is no doubt they can do better. The way I see things, the shift in philosophy to Brady lead to a much quicker passing game designed to attack horizontally and gain YAC. There is a reason they brought in guys like Samuel and Coleman. Stef Diggs catching a bubble screen for 3 yards ain’t cutting it.
My point in bringing up the old stats: They went 6-3 over that stretch, including the OT loss to the Eagles and the 12 men on the field botched Broncos L.
Okay. I'm not one of those predicting a doomed season. I still think we should be favored to win the division.
I'll be surprised if they make a SB run, but it isn't impossible.
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2 minutes ago, NewEra said:
We had Diggs for 3 elite seasons prior to this year. All same results in the playoff losses. He was beyond irrelevant
He was. I don't know if that speaks to WR1 generally, or Diggs, however.
I'm willing to entertain a different offensive strategy where targets and emphasis are diversified.
Still think Beane should have done more to improve the WR room. (And of course, maybe he will, by the time the season starts.)
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On 4/27/2024 at 5:35 PM, HOUSE said:
I can't seem to stop watching this. I don't think it's a good sign about the state of my soul.
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11 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:
The question should not be what unit you have to have - because none are needed to win an SB (not even QB). The question should be what would help your particular team the most. The Bills have Josh a generational QB with one of the best 25-30 yard laser arms ever - a good WR room should be a priority.
I'm still hoping a move is made. They only took one WR so it could be saving the spot. They have extra picks next year as draft capital, Tre money and possible Josh restructure.
The Beane denials could be just keeping expectations low. Plus any move might not be done quickly.
As you know, I'm really hoping this narrative has merit, but overall, I think it is more likely Beane is cognitively impaired when it comes to assessing what is and is not an acceptable WR room. It's just exasperating that they always seem to ask Josh Allen to do more with less. There probably is enough above the minimum threshold for him to work with, but why place that burden on him?
Calling it now: You're all about to witness the arrival of Shakir
in The Stadium Wall
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I wouldn't take a victory lap until we actually see how it plays out. I hope you're right, of course. I still think the WR room is lacking. I don't like the depth. You still need a reliable field stretcher, I don't care that Brady has a different concept of how the offense should look. I love Coleman's personality, work ethic, and intelligence. It doesn't make my concerns about him disappear, but it makes it very easy to root for him, apart from his importance to the Buffalo Bills.