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1 hour ago, Jerboski said:
Can ward went to Miami
Oh looks like he declared but didn’t hire an agent then decided to transfer. Well I guess he is offf the board but either way I would find a qb in the late rounds to back up Josh for several years. I think it’s time to have some stability there instead of spending a couple million each year and having a recolving door
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I’ve posted this in another thread as well but this is what I would do on offense. I’m trying to get a proven WR just because you draft one high isn’t a sure thing and can’t waste another year
Cap savings:
Extend Dawkins (7 million)
Release Harty (5 Million)
Release Hines (4 Million)
Cut Gilliam (1.9 million)
Restructure Allen (23 million)
Total cap savings (40.9 million)
Additions/Re-signings:
- Edwards (2 million)
- Ty Johnson (1.5 million)
- Quentin Morris (1 million)
- Tee Higgins (9 million year 1- diggs gone once number increases)
- Terrance Marshall JR- (1.5 million trade 7th rounder. He hasn’t been good in nfl but was good with Brady at LSU)
-Carson Steele RB UCLA round 5 (1 million)
-Ricky Pearsall WR Florida Round 3 (1 million)
- Cam ward QB Wash st round 5 (1 million)
Net cap savings: 22.9 million
Roster:
QB: Josh Allen, Cam Ward
RB: James Cook, Ty Johnson, Carson Steele
TE: Kincaid, Knox, Morris
WR: Diggs, Higgins, Shakir, Pearsall, Marshall JR, (Isabella, shorter, or hamler)
OL: Dawkins, McGovern, Morse, Torrence, Brown,Edwards, Bates, Anderson, Van Demark, Doyle
This would make the offense younger and cheaper. Besides Diggs, Morse, and Dawkins everyone else is under the age of 27.
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I think we have the ability to get younger, cheaper and also improve. I have only gone through offense so far but I was able to add some playmakers on offense, leave 6 draft picks for defense including 1st and 2nd rounders and cut our over the cap amount to about 18 million over which we can easily free up more than that on the defensive side through restructures, extensions, cuts.
Cap savings:
Extend Dawkins (7 million)
Release Harty (5 Million)
Release Hines (4 Million)
Cut Gilliam (1.9 million)
Restructure Allen (23 million)
Total cap savings (40.9 million)
Additions/Re-signings:
- Edwards (2 million)
- Ty Johnson (1.5 million)
- Quentin Morris (1 million)
- Tee Higgins (9 million year 1- diggs gone once number increases)
- Terrance Marshall JR- (1.5 million trade 7th rounder. He hasn’t been good in nfl but was good with Brady at LSU)
-Carson Steele RB UCLA round 5 (1 million)
-Ricky Pearsall WR Florida Round 3 (1 million)
- Cam ward QB Wash st round 5 (1 million)
Net cap savings: 22.9 million
Roster:
QB: Josh Allen, Cam Ward
RB: James Cook, Ty Johnson, Carson Steele
TE: Kincaid, Knox, Morris
WR: Diggs, Higgins, Shakir, Pearsall, Marshall JR, (Isabella, shorter, or hamler)
OL: Dawkins, McGovern, Morse, Torrence, Brown,Edwards, Bates, Anderson, Van Demark, Doyle
This would make the offense younger and cheaper. Besides Diggs, Morse, and Dawkins everyone else is under the age of 27.
note: I originally created a post for this but since deleted it since it fits in with this conversation.
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Curious to see what everyone would like to realistically see happen this off-season. Here are my initial thoughts:
Draft picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd (comp), 4th, 5th (gb), 5th, 6th (LAR), 6th (Houston), 6th, 7th
Coaching:
-Hire Brady as OC and give him an offseason to implement his offense
-ST was brutal this year I think you need to make a change her
-Hire a QB coach
- I would keep McDermott as HC/DC but I think you need to bring in someone else as assistant HC to help alleviate some of the tasks on MCdermott (Ron Rivera seems logical here)
Offense:
-OL: I would bring everyone back including David Edwards (hopefully on a similar deal to this year). Edwards filled that 6th lineman big TE role perfectly. The line played well this year and keeping them together will only help
- TE: Knox and Kincaid are both going to be here. Morris is a FA if he will come back at vet minimum I bring him back if not use one of your late round picks on a TE to round out the depth chart.
-QB: Allen is here and you restructure him to free up over 20 million in cap space. Personally I think it’s time to use a 5th or 6th round pick on a qb who we have under contract for 4 years and that is cheap. If Allen is hurt it doesn’t matter who the backup is.
-RB: Cook proved he could be a RB1 this year and I really like Johnson to come back as an RB2/3 on a minimum deal. Once again using a 4th to 6th round pick to fill out this depth chart. Brady will also need to decide if he needs a fullback if he doesn’t I let Gilliam go. Hines is clearly a cut due to cap savings
-WR this is where the big changes come on offense. Diggs and Shakir are a solid start and I thing you let Isabella, shorter, kj hamler compete for that 5th/6th wr role but I think you double dip in the draft 1st round and 5th/6th round as well as bring in a mid tier vet (going to be limited due to cap space and if you bring in a Rd1 guy they would be your wr 4. I would be looking at guys like Josh Reynolds, Kendrick Bourne, Nelson Aguilar, Curtis Samuel. I would really like Michael Pittman but he will be way to expensive).
Defense:
-Saftey: this is tough but I think it’s time to say goodbye to poyer and Hyde. Hamlin also needs to go. Cutting poyer I would use his money to sign Jeremy Chin or kyle Duggar. I bring back Rapp on a small contract and I use a Day 2 draft pick on a saftey. Cam Lewis or a late draft pick can be your 4th saftey. Your likely to take a step back at this position with poyer and Hyde gone but it’s time to turn the page.
CB: I would extend Douglass and Johnson to lower their cap hits. Benford is your other starter and I keep Elam for one more year as a backup. I think Dane Jackson will be gone and Tre is the tricky one. I think you try to renegotiate his contract to lower the cap hit and provide incentives if not he has to be a cut at his current rate.if Jackson and white are gonna we are going to have to sign a cheaper vet to round out depth chart.
LB: If Dodson will resign at a relatively small deal I think your set with Bernard, Milano, Dodson, Spector, Williams.DL: This position is going to need a lot. You have Von, Groot, and Oliver. I think you try to resign jones if it’s reasonable. You’re also going to have to sign a DT free agent and use a day 2 pick on one. As far as DE goes I think brining lawson back makes sense on a minimum deal. If we can get Floyd back on a 2 year 18-20 million dollar deal with a void year I also probably do that then have Kingsley jonothan and a late draft pick compete for that 5th d end spot.
Next year will be tough the team will look a lot different and we need to start getting younger and get cap in better shape for the next run. Next year is the year to do it to get ready for 2025.Miami will then have to pay tua and tyreek will be old and, Rodgers will retire, and Reid and Kelce will also be near the end. The goal should be to build for 2025.
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Bills should bring the entire oline including backups back, the entire TE group back, and Ty Johnson as a rb3.
they need a back up qb (should use a late round pick on one so we have someone for 4 years)
they need a rb2- cheap vet or late draft pick (or if they like what fornette has done in practice just bring him in as the rb2
they need 2 wrs (draft one high and a mid tier vet (Diggs, high draft pick, shakir, mid tier vet, resign Sherfield as blocking wr, and shorter
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Within the next few seasons there will be 16 international games a year. Every team will have 8 home, 8 away, and 1 international game. Likely split between 6-7 countries.
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Morris played 38 percent of the snaps vs the jets and 26 percent of the snaps against the eagles. Gave Davis was over 95 percent in both games. You give all of morris snaps to Knox and 10-15 percent of Davis snaps. That gets Knox up to 40-50 percent of the snaps and gets gabe into a better spot around 80 percent
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36 minutes ago, DrBob806 said:
You sound like a Steelers fan. Unless things are all rosy, they bail on their team every season & look for silver linings down the road- problem is the schedule always has these perceived notions & many of them turn out wrong.
There's 8 games left, my goodness. Yeah, losses suck, but let's see how they adjust.
1 minute ago, haroldwaide said:Right now, we are a game out of first place in our division. I'll say it as simply as I can...beat the Dolphins week 18 and we HOST a playoff game. I'm not giving up on this year yet, and neither should you.
I am a super optimistic fan and I’m not giving up but just looking at reality. The dolphins have a much much easier schedule than the bills going forward and already area game up. The D is decimated by injuries and we would need to win 6 of of 8 to lock in wildcard. We are currently sitting at 9th in the afc. I think overall the window on this group of players had closed and we just need to retool for another run with Josh in his prime-
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Unfortunately unless the dolphins implode of the next few weeks I don’t think the bills will make the playoffs this year. Right now we have 4 afc losses and lose most of the tiebreakers if not all of them.
There will be plenty of time this off-season to talk about all these items in more details but here are some of my thought:
1. I think core group of players has run its course. It’s time to retool for the next run.
2. we will likely be picking the higher in the draft than we have in several years and we have a lot of picks this year. We must hit on the early picks to set up our next run.
3. Our schedule looks like it will be much easier next year. Pats should still suck, we play the NFC west and AFC south. We will likely finish 2nd or 3rd in the division which means we will avoid KC, Philly, Baltimore and will
likely get the Steelers, cowboys, and chargers instead.
4. Although not all the offensive struggles are on Dorsey I think they need to move on and find an experienced OC (If frank Reich gets canned in Carolina I would take a look). With McDermott focused on the D having someone on offense with HC experience would be nice.
5. It’s time to move on from Davis and either invest a high draft pick or sign a guy in FA who has been consistent. It looks like we will have a solid core with diggs, shakir, Knox and Kincaid but we need another weapon.
6. We need another back to compliment cook. We don’t need to invest a ton of cap space or draft capital but we need to bring someone else who can be an 1b type back.
7. The oline has mostly been fine. I think they look worse than they are sometimes because Allen holds the ball so long. I would bring David edwards back for depth, bring in a tackle for depth and hopefully keep continuity. The one change I could see would be to drop Morse for bates to open cap space.
8. The d is hard to judge because of all the injuries but I think they are going to have some tough decisions on a few players. What do you do with white? Poyer? Hyde? Von will be here due to his contract. Do you resign epenesa and jones? The bbills need to get younger and cheaper on d in a hurry. -
2 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:
You can tie a 1st Round pick to 5 years with your team and not kill your cap, unlike Johnson who you'd have to sign to a significant extension to keep him here or let him walk and get a 3rd Rounder at best.
I don’t think we should give up a 1st but if you can get a proven young player on a first you do it even if it’s going to cost you salary. We went with the other approach and drafted Elam and he doesn’t see the field
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1 minute ago, Westside Madness said:
I am hearing that because they cut him now, they eat a cap hit of 22m. Apparently if they cut him after 01-Jun, they would not have. So, if that is true, why wouldn't they wait a week to cut him?
Because they know they are going to suck this year might as well just take the loss this year instead of splitting it into next year once Murray is back
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Bills can free up 7 million by extending Daquan jones and cutting siran Neal. That is more than enough to sign Hopkins with a 1st year cap hit.
with shorter on the team now who can play special teams and the league de-emphasizing special teams no reason to keep Neal when you already have other special teams only guys
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9 minutes ago, BillsfaninAZ said:
Has anyone bought tickets for Bills games through venues like Stub Hub or Vivid Seats? Are they reliable? I'm checking online for tickets to the Raiders game and Ticket Master doesn't have as many available like the other sites.
I used vivid seats last year for the bills home opener and didn’t have any issues. I also purchased giants vs bills tickets last night on vivid. 300 level got them for $201 a ticket after fees.
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51 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
QB - Allen, Allen
RB - Cook, Harris, Hines, Murray
FB - Gilliam
WR - Diggs, Davis, Harty, Shakir, Sherfield, Shorter
TE - Kincaid, Knox
OL - Dawkins, McGovern, Morse, Torrence, Brown
Bates, Edwards, Quessenberry, Gouriage
DE - Miller, Rousseau, Lawson, Epenesa, Basham
DT - Oliver, Jones, Ford, Phillips, Settle
LB - Milano, Bernard, Klein, Williams, Dodson, Matakevitch
CB - White, Elam, Johnson, Jackson, Benford, Neal
S - Poyer, Hyde, Rapp, Hamlin
ST - Bass, Martin, Ferguson
If everyone stays healthy through camp I think you nailed it.
I think Spector, Morris, and Doyle are next in line to make the team
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2 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:
Offense:
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2 - QB: Allen, Allen
5 - RB: Harris, Cook, Hines, Gilliam, Murray
6 - WR: Diggs, Davis, Harty, Shakir, Sherfield, Shorter
3 - TE: Knox, Kincaid, Morris
10 - OL - Dawkins, McGovern, Morse, Torrence, Brown, Bates, Doyle, Edwards, Broeker, Quessenberry (or Gouraige)
Defense:
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5 - DT: Jones, Phillips, Oliver, Settle, Ford
5 - DE: Miller, Rousseau, Epenesa, Basham, Lawson
6 - LB: Milano, Dodson, Spector, Bernard, Matakevich, Williams
4 - S - Poyer, Hyde, Rapp, Hamlin (lock if healthy)
7 - CB - White, Elam, Benford, Johnson, Neal, Jackson, Austin
Specialist:
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Here I am at 56, l so someone would have to go.
I cut AJ Klein, though I am not sure how likely that is. To me a guy like Dodson either wins the job or he isn't here, which is crazy. You have to likely lose a corner unless Miller does go on PUP. The chances of any of these UDFAs making, aside from maybe Gouriage is very slim.
I bolded my locks, that roster is 48, essentially 5 spots up for grabs with 2 of those spots likely going to OL and 1 to safety.
All my opinions obviously.
Nice work! I agree with most but I think a couple guys you have as locks could be surprise cuts. I would put the following players in competing for a job due to what the cap saving would be and just overall performance:
Settle
Spector
Neal
Doyle
I also think Murray and Lawson are pretty close to locks and Klien is probably closer to a lock than cut. I see Klien making it and Dodson and Spector battling for that last LB spot
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I can’t really understand why so many here are questioning this and don’t think he will make the roster. The bills have always carried 4 rbs and rb on the roster I don’t see why this year would be any different. I know Jones only played special teams but now you have a special team guy in Hines who can also play on offense.
I think it’s much more likely we carry Murray on the roster than a 7th wr or even Quentin Morris as a 3rd TE
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Kincaid, Knox, shorter all 6’ 4
Davis 6’ 2
Plenty of speed as well with cook, Hines Harty and sherfield
oh and one of the best wr in nfl with diggs
no matter what d we play we will have the players to counter it
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Probably not a popular opinion on this board but remind me of kelvin Benjamin. I know he sucked here but he produced his first few years in carolina
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- Bills don’t take a OL on day 1 or 2
- Bills draft at least 2 players on D with their first 4 picks
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18 minutes ago, Mister Defense said:
I notice the offensive line is not part of your offense. Could be a problem...
honestly I’m not as down on the line as most are. I think we upgraded at guard over saffold. Morse and Dawkins are good. Bates is average but it was also his first year as a starter and I am expecting brown to be better actually having an offseason this year. Allen is part of the reason they don’t always look great as well. He holds the ball to make the big play too often rather than checking it down. If he checked down more the line would look better.I actually would be surprised if the bills draft a lineman in the first 3 rounds. Their starters are set (Beane isn’t benching brown this year). They already have young guys with upside in Doyle and Brown. Proven starter with edwards and Quesenberry as backups and a guy they obviously like in Boettger.
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I would do a second for Hopkins in a heartbeat. Take the TE Washington in the first
Allen
Diggs, Hopkins, Davis, Shakir, Harty, Sherfield
Knox and washington
cook, Harris, Hines
that would likely be the best offense in the league
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13 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:
A better gauge might be a comparison of our final roster with the 2022 opening day roster.
I considered taking that approach however the injuries last year were so significant that a lot of guys went out for large chunks of the season. It’s actually pretty amazing how many wins we actually got with the injuries
All of these player missed at least 3 out of 16 regular season games last year
White
Elam
Benford
Poyer
Hyde
Edmunds
Groot
Miller
Phillips
Oliver
Kumerow
crowder
Morse
Doyle
Boettger
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58 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:
I can go with your assessment and conclude that the overall team is better, but i think marginally better. However, I dont think we have improved enough to pass the Bengals and Chiefs. So, while important to improve, it will mean squat if we continue to be ill-equipped to win against them in the playoffs.
Yes, there is the draft but again, the other two teams have it too.
As it stands right now, I am less optimistic about the upcoming season than I was about the last 2. (2020 was just a very pleasant surprise).
I get the finish to last year was disappointing and we had a terrible showing against the bengals however we have beaten the chiefs 2 out of the last 3 and if it wasn’t for 13 seconds in would be 3 straight. Also looking at KC free agent moves it appears they have actually regressed. The have significant downgrades at OT and WR at this point and no positions where they have made a clear upgrade. The bengals have had a significant downgrade at safety and depth however they did get a significant upgrade on the oline. The bengals are going to be extremely tough again this year but the dynamics will change quickly once they have to pay Higgins chase and burrow this year -
1 hour ago, KzooMike said:
If you're betting on Tre being his old self (which I feel is possible) this position immediately upgrades by about as much as LB downgrades. I'm really hoping that is the case. In fact, to go further, we could have the best secondary we have ever fielded with the depth we gained at corner last year and if our safeties can remain healthy. A lot of what if's, but really only room to better IMO.
In my initial assessment I tried to be reserved in my outlooks but I agree corner could be significantly better this year. I also said “Same” for running back but it is a position that could be significantly better as well.-
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Thread for roster gymnasts & CAPologists: how do we make this team BETTER in the offseason?
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In no way do I expect Tee Higgins to sign for 9 million a year. I full expect him to get a 5 year 100 million dollar deal. What I am suggesting is his cap hit year 1 is 9 million which is doable. Then after this season Diggs would be gone and Higgins cap hit would go into the 20-25 million range much like diggs is now. I personally like the idea of a proven young receiver over a 1st round pick. If that receiver doesn’t hit your looking at a bad situation next year and even worse the following year if diggs is gone.