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seems to me you have your experience as a coach and it allows for a different perspective than some other folks might have. my assumption is that what some see as inconsistency you simply view as part of human element of the game. i've read the various comments over the past few days...i don't see where the OP said anything that rises to the level of 'tomfoolery' at all. he said there are inconsistencies in the way games are officiated, and for him, it ruins the experience. i'd hazard a bet that if i asked 100 nfl football fans if the officiating was consistent week to week, game to game, i figure 90 of them would say it was not. the most common example...."Gosh, it was great to see them just let 'em play!". I recall the great marv levy referring to an official as 'an overly-officious jerk'. bb's complaints about the play in carolina, his comments about welker taking out talib..aren't those just examples of calls he thought should be made, but weren't? taken a step further--the seattle td set up by the pass interference call was absolutely the correct call. a short time later, broncos still in it (in retrospect, probably, the equivalent of a guy still having a chance to survive just before he falls into the wood chipper), driving, and the seattle dback pretty clearly cutting off the receiver route with no flag. no pi, no hold, no nothing. We're not talking in the trenches, we're talking a play with two guys near the ball and no one around them. Missed call? Judgement call? Let 'em play? the nfl should cringe when someone makes the comment that the game was exceptionally called, or when some announcer says they 'just let 'em play today...". the goal should be to be consistent week in, week out. if, as some have suggested, seattle built their team with the understanding that they'd be overly aggressive play after play because the officials won't call penalties on every play---they should be penalized play after play if the rules suggest they should. word.

Here's the reality for all you EJ apologists. If you can't accurately predict the career trajectory of a qb after 73 minute playing time of regular season football in his rookie year, well, you ain't paying attention.

the guy had a selective positron ratio that was -7.8 and it dropped to -8.3. that's like a -.5 swing. or, a positive .5, i can't recall how that math works. surely, though, he's trending in the wrong direction.

3rd...i was, indeed, joking. i thought that fairly obvious, and figure mr. frenkle knew that when he responded to my initial post. it's funny to me you saw it as a sword fight...i was just looking for a little break in an otherwise stressful couple of days. i thought the OC was joking, but figured out along the line that maybe he wasn't. i couldn't let the 'we'll rough you up or run you out' thing pass without comment...he might be just that good to have drawn me in. either way, i'm ok. my Dad told me a long time ago "Never let an anonymous poster make you feel bad about your online persona". rob, your choice of language was colorful and not necessarily how i would say it (i'd likely put out the fire with my urine), but i agree a zealot is a zealot. i'm good with my view of God, i respect your right to have your own views as well. In the interest of full disclosure: Penn Jillette will (probably) not burn in hell, but i do think he's sort of a dick.

I'm in trouble? I don't feel like I'm in trouble, but thanks for letting me know. What did I type that has you and your angry group of anonymites thinking I'm morally superior? Was it Satan, grill, or fatty pork loin? And who is the 'we' you keep referencing, and why do you feel the need to keep bringing them up? Do you find comfort in numbers? And...this is crazy, really, and difficult conceptually to follow when you have a pack mentality....but it doesn't even strike you as a teeny weeny bit poliburo-ish to type things like "We don't let "moral superiority" phonies on the left get away with it, why should we allow it from the right?'. Thank you, Komrad, just post the rules on the slate-gray wall for all of us to follow. I can't speak to all the frat boy hate you've picked up on in your life, but what makes you think I hate frat boys to begin with? Do you honestly think you're in a position to render an opinion on my hate of fraternities or lack thereof from my comment? If I had said someone was behaving like a drunken sailor, does that mean that I hate sailors? i think it's presumptuous of you, though i forgive you. I agree with you to a point on fraternity boys caring what others think. Then again, maybe a lot of them really care about what other people think. it's hard to say when you don't generalize. As for jealousy....I'll let you come to your own conclusions. After our correspondence, I can see how you would look at the comments I made and conclude the only logical explanation is that I'm jealous of fraternity members, most of whom you know being successful and all. It's as simple as A + B = Pineapple. Oh, yeah, and there's a lot of us out here who don't like your tone. We don't like it, not one bit.

i read way more than i post, obviously evidenced by my status. i like to peruse the various comments, generally football-related because i enjoy the jib-jab, but now and again i pop in the PPP forum for some fun. as a conservative, neo-con really, I can't think of any time i've ever agreed with something you've written. i don't post to get into confrontations, like to have a bit of fun and try and keep the name-calling out of it....but i have no choice but to look over my shoulder for a while because some group i know only as "we" is coming for me. or, maybe we're talking multiple personality disorder and there's only one 'we' but he so craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayzaaay. if anybody asks if you saw me, tell 'em i skipped town.

To quote Phil Hartman: "Incandescent blather.". Best I can tell, you want to play it off as towel-snapping yuks, but you're thin-skinned, like a drunken fraternity boy. No problem though, I'll move on to avoid being hazed like a rookie...of a message board.

Well...your silly little squirrel/nut/faux democrat party seal post was probably the hit of Mrs. Smith's 7th grade homeroom class...but strikes me as sort of the definition of "dopey" when you're trying to show up another poster on a message board. It makes you look like a little boy wearing his dad's big shoes to school. Oh... and thanks for the clarification on "Pretense", but it was unnecessary here--I read books, too.

Butt-hurt is a term the kids are using these days - didn't mean to make it wierd...lol. From a believer, your comments, while human, didn't seem very Christlike. That's all I'm saying. A guy says he denounces the holy spirit and you say he'll burn in hell for all eternity because of it, which doesn't seem to be a very measured response IMO. I'm really just trying to point out the apparent contradiction between what you seem to believe and how you choose show it. Do unto others and all that... and Stop getting all butthurt about some guy saying you're going to "burn in hell for all eternity". You don't believe in it, so what's the worry? Burning in hell only matters, if you believe it's possible, right? So what's going on here Frenkle? A little bit of apprehension? Perhaps not butthurt, rather, a sudden tightening of the sphincter? Geesh..."some guy"? I have a screen name for heaven's sake. To be fair, I never suggested that PJ nor the man we know as "Frenkle" would be burn in hell for all eterntiy. I said PJ would roast on a George Foreman grill. All this butt and sphincter talk has me on edge. Good day to you both.

Well, I Dream of Gene(y), I'm going to have to figure out a way to come to grips with how you feel about me and what I wrote. I do, in fact, feel comfortable with my statements, and thanks for asking. I also appreciate your concern over my "hurt butt', though on some level I find it a little bit creepy. The good news is that we were discussing Penn Jillette and his point of view, and I'd hazard a guess that he would be perfectly fine with my point of view. He might see an opportunity to show me the truth. I read your thoughts on his postings and thought your perspective was excellent. I'm not agnostic, but see a certain mean-spiritedness in the whole thing. Perhaps that influenced my response in kind. Perhaps what you see as arrogance on my part was simply the natural by-product of the human condition. I don't know, I'm only human.

They are doing the most offensive things they can think of to invoke the wrath of god. Maybe, but I'd edit that to suggest they are doing the most offensive things they can think of to invoke the wrath of those who believe in God. From my perspective, it's not particularly creative, inventive or interesting. I don't see the big fellow as brilliant or clever, but he is a hell of salesman for his schtick. 50 years ago, someone else was doing the same sort of rap somehwere, 50 years from now someone will take his place. Of course, by then, Penn will sizzling like a fatty pork loin on Satan's George Foreman grill, but such is (after)life.

he's a chump. all the other stuff aside--hard-scrabble kid from a tough neighborhood, charlie from charlie's angels stuff aside....i'm a fan of the buffalo bills, and my job is to complain about anything that gets in the way of success. i don't think he's any more chump-ish than any other agent, nor is he any less chump-ish. for what it's worth, my list of chumps is quite long, it started in 1970 or so.

Fyi, I'm not looking for trouble, to criticize, or to say I'm right. I try not to generalize generally, and certainly know very little about the life and times of a professional athlete. I certainly wouldn't hang 'spoiled' or 'entitled' on most of those guys, there are 1,700+ athletes in the NFL, not counting practice squads and whatnot, and even in a basic thugonomics world, while you hear aout some of them often, you don't hear about most of them all the time. i'm amazed at times by the amount(s) of money some of these guys make, but much past that don't think much about it. But here's the thing, the one word from SJBF that I take from all this is "special'. These are special people with special rules that live special lives. Some make a fortune, others make it and blow it, others never make it at all. I view it through the eyes of a football fan. I want to see JB playing for the Bills this season, and the rules in place say we can franchise, and we decided to franchise, and good for us. i fully agree that he takes risk in playing it out under the tag, and it improves the position of the club in some respects at this time. Still, it's a relative risk, and there's been plenty of time to plan for it. If he's surrounded himself with good people, they likely have a strategy to deal with this issue. $6.9 mill spends well in most places in the country, even after expenses and taxes. the rumor mill suggests he and the bills are $2 mill apart, which seems to imply he sees is value as X + $2m, while the Bills see his value as X. i guess we'll see. i'm hard-pressed to feel badly for anyone in the financial-negotiations-mix here, from the owners to players to agents to the players association.

He is indeed. He's 18 now, going to college in the fall and will be in Rhode Island. I'm certain he'll be surrounded by pats fans, but through it all he's a bills fan, as is my 14 year old son. That game locked him in, probably sadly, for the rest of his life. We go to a game a year, have a blast. Yeah, the bills can pick you up, too. great way to look at that!

Quick story about that game. I live in Albany, from wny originally. A buddy of mine won tickets to the game that Saturday afternoon, called me late sat and asked if I wanted the tickets (he's a pats fan). I decided to go and took my 10 year old son.I told him we were taking a road trip, with road trip rules so the backseat of the car was his place to hang. From the moment we left at 6am, to the rest area stop where a kindly hostess gave him a free donut for the trip, to the drew Bledsoe bobble head they gave us at..mcdonalds (?), to the tailgate/football toss before the game it was awesome. I wasn't hoping for a win, had a couple beers and tried to wait it out but finally had to use the bathroom and of course over his objections I made him come with me. Literally minutes later, Campbell scored and I realized i likely made him miss the only td of the game. From there, the rest is history, the wheels came off the rams bus and it was one of the great games of my life. A family of several guys (20s or so) were In the row In front of us with their dad and told my son he was the good luck charm, and they treated my son like a king the wholebgame. High fives, rubbing his head for good luck-----and making a major ruckus all the time....all the good things about football fans you hope to see at the stadium. After the game, we went to my brothers house in williamsville, again my son was treated like a king and ended the night watching starsky and hutch (Ben stiller version), still one of our all time favorite movies. It really was an awesome experience, one he (and obviously I) will never forget. Thanks for bringing it up!

We would generally work our way back to Hertel, Mighty Taco or a sub from John and Mary's. More often than not I'd get a chance to see it all again about an hour later after my bed started spinning like the house In the Wizard of Oz. Good stuff!

The things I used to see Cassidy's bouncers get away with was criminal. Those guys were aholes................But, that was the best bar ever invented, so we kept going! Ah, a blast from the past. One of my good friends back in the day ended up being a bouncer at Cassidy's. It instantly upped his status with the 11pm-4am weekend crowd, and while we didn't hang out much after that, he'd hook us up by having us skip the line like we was Rick James (or the poor white kid version of the disco'd one). On the other hand, some of those guys were indeed d-bags. But...nickle wings and... FREDDY'S... SPECIAL! FREDDY'S... SPECIAL Was aw'iiiiiiite.

I don't know anything about medical marijuana, but if you're telling me this is all hype, well buddy boy, I'm not buying it. It's pretty implausible to think someone would go to the trouble of making a documentary/movie about the dangers of marijuana and supposedly misrepresent the dangers of this quote-unquote harmless plant. next you'll tell me the documentary of the little old lady who spilled hot coffee on her secret garden somehow shared the blame with mcdonalds simply because of something as obviously non-threatening as balancing really really hot liquid on her bony legs in the passenger seat of an '87 K car in motion, or that the 3 hobos on the grassy knoll and tommy lee jones didn't actually shoot jfk. it says it right on the poster, so it must be true: Women cry for it. Men die for it.

the problem with it all coming down to one play and 'it should have been called' v. 'it should not have been called' is the same one you have as a team when you let it come down to one or two plays: the game is 60 minutes long and it's unreasoanble to look at one call-non-call without looking at the game as a whole. additionally, there are several elements all being looked at the same time---pushing off/holding/interference/catchable ball--and that's just on the players involved. how many calls were missed earlier in the game, a game where most acknowledge you can find a hold/penalty on every play in every game. how many of those missed calls might have tipped the game one way or the other? in the end, the niners lost in large part because they were cold early and got hot too late, and the hole that they dug required just about everything to go their way for the remainder of the game. complaining about the officiating in that case is understandable but shortsighted, especially in light of the fact that a call doesn't guarantee them the win anyway. and yes, if it's the bills of buffalo, i'm on the window ledge of a one story building if it goes against us, and typing exactly what i typed above if it goes for us.

wouldn't the mulligan come after he screwed the proverbial pooch? he's here, we'll know in a year. seems to be jumping the gun to chastise the guy at this point. also, in retrospect, wouldn't the wannstadt hiring have been something we'd agree with?

it's the football equivalent of second base (under sweater,maybe).

you're thinking of robitussin. silver spoons are used to kill vampires, from the old country, where people have names like....gulp....Count VAHV-rohv.

excellent word efficiency here. you painted a very colorful portrait in short order. one question though, in fairness to the guy, don't most high school kids live off their parents? i don't imagine he would have started a hedge fund by 11th grade (even in clarence).

Buddy Nx is correct. 100% correct answer from his perspective. Now whether or not he's the guys for the job we need done is another story.

i don't know, i may well deny that "mitt got smoked". certainly, he lost the election, but whether he got smoked or not remains to be seen. looking back over the past four years, a large number of american voters pretty clearly indicated that THEY got smoked by voting for romney. the end game for many supporters of obama has devolved into "he didn't have enough time..." and "it was way way way worse than he thought..." and "no one could have done a better job...". at this point, i'm in the camp that says we're all along for the ride, so like it or not, it all be what it will be. with luck, congress will hold the line on the key issues important to conservatives, and with luck, things get worked out. personally, i think the choices outlined by the president with respect to the looming crisis is the choice between going over the fiscal cliff, or sitting in the ford pinto looking over the edge while people are racing up behind you. it remains to be seen who got smoked, and the next few years will tell. as for the original poster, here's the only way to look at it. if your life is a perpetual cycle of "i got %$#@ed" offset by "wow i'm getting $#@^ed" interspersed with "*&^%ing rich guys always trying to &^%$ me", well, all you did was make romney's point clear. maybe someday your children will be lucky enough to break the cycle and marry a rich guy.