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Excellent Sc. Saw a response from another poster and had to watch.

That’s a standard default argument—reigning in the budget, kicking the can down the road, it’s on our kids and grandkids. Truth is, not enough people care, and there are very, very few politicians in Washington who give it much thought. Rand Paul, maybe, and people were thrilled when his neighbor tried to take him out. That said, Trump was in office for 4 years, Biden has been in office 45+. There is no comparison between the two and their impact on the national economy.

I’ll revisit this later, Frankish, thanks for putting the work in.

I think @muppy is unaware that Utah is considered the San Diego of the land of the Latter Day Saints.

You two lovebirds should get married. 😎 Rockefeller would be 174 years old if he were alive today. The r party has changed since the studebaker was all the rage, and the d party has as well. I’m a conservative with socially liberal tendencies who recognizes the abject stupidity of both parties at times. What appealed to me about Trump was his America first agenda. I don’t see that as really all that different than the “Buy American” movement of the 1970s by union democrats. I also tend to believe if you have your own house in order, it’s much easier to help others.

Red typed FIFY, which I believe means Fixed it for You. In that case, I would be you. I believe that he should have typed FIFM, or Fixed it for Me, me not being me, obviously, but me being him. Not him Him as in “He HIM”, but him being the me who fixed the text to represent his views, not the you purported to be me.

@muppy I may also done accused RedTailHawk of things he didn’t do! I’ll defer to you on this one, I saw what RedTailHawk had done and believed he done misappropriated the words I used and replaced them with his own. While that is my truth and I hold it dear, if you see it otherwise I withdraw my charge of plagiarism but RedTail is a scoundrel still!

I’ll summarize: Someone said something, someone said that was crazy, someone said republicans are all stupid, someone said democrats are all stupid, RedTailHawk done plagiarized and edited my post, Eastern Ohio has season tickets to the WNBA (he’s probably the only one) and Andy, this Andy guy was 🤬 nice to me. Cats are eating dogs, dogs are eating cats!

Point of order. I don’t understand what this means. Damn you for your niceness! It’s kryptonite here!

Point of order, FIFY should be changed to FIFM. Other than that, the debate continues and I understand your perspective.

Well we’re not that far removed from a whole bunch of people worried about authoritarian rule later on applauding an armed raid on a former president, and congress force feeding the release of private tax information under the banner of freedom. Crazy times.

Holy smokes— add in Biden and his daughter’s diary, his acknowledgments on groping women, and the credible allegations of violent sexual assault, maybe we really are moving toward a one party system? Andy, glad to see you’re ok. We had the brief exchange the other day about Republican’s treating Santos with the Biden model and then poof, you were gone. This is like the PPP version of “Castaway”.

This is democracy in action, friend! It will get worked out, one way or the other.

@muppy is sharing her thoughts during a very difficult time, and her initial response was a heartfelt post and prayer for this very unfortunate young man. In my experience, that’s been her response to every trial and tribulation the Bills have faced. Consider context, a human being letting her heart show through and sharing a conversation she had with her child during a very emotional time. Muppy can certainly speak for herself, but you’re wrong on this one—there will not be a fan on this board who cares more than she does.

This is an awesome post on so many levels, you did really, really well here. Thank you.

There are threads for that purpose. You know that. I know that. Everyone knows that. Kudos to you for acknowledging that Joe Biden is a human being with major flaws. George Santos does as well.

I agree, I thought I made that clear? Biden has consistently delivered on the things important to his constituents—-unfortunately, many of those things were disproportionately harmful to a generation of people who looked and sounded different than his constituents. This isn’t news to you, BillSy, however you want to spin it. People can rationalize behaving in a way that on the surface conflicts with their convictions, but generally there has to be something really good in it for them (more money in their pockets, safer neighborhoods and insulated property values), and it helps if there is a bigger boogie man to make one feel better. My point remains that in spite of what you call the “major flaws” of Biden, he’s been one of the most powerful people in the country for decades. He was rewarded for doing the heavy dirty lifting you want to pretend now never occurred.

I can agree with your point on Trump v Biden, but that ignores the much, much larger point to be made here with respect to Biden. Biden has had “major flaws” for nearly 50 years and has been selected over and over to represent the Democrat party for most of those 50 years. If you’re a Democrat, his major flaws were of no major concern. We know this because of his 50 year career. To paraphrase Colonel Jessup from “A Few Good Men”….while some may find him grotesque, the truth is deep down, in places where you don’t talk about it, you wanted him on that wall, in fact, you needed him on that wall. One does not accidentally back into positions of great power in the US Senate, the Vice Presidency and ultimately the Presidency with “major flaws” unless on the whole, your people were down with the whole ride. It wasn’t the “lesser of two evils” that got Biden into the WH, it was a comfort level with who he is, what he offered and what he delivered past and present. Attempting to recast it as “Gosh, what could we really do???” is weak and completely disingenuous.

Could have gone higher, Doc. Who really knows? Oh, and how dare you, Sir!

Sure, I already suggested as much. You’re responding to comments that deal with a separate issue. @Andy1 agreed with my assessment that Biden had serious, substantive issues with lying and misrepresentation and suggested Republican leadership follow the Dem leadership model of dealing with Biden. I simply outlined what exactly that model is, and I’m thinking he doesn’t want that at all.

Well, not really, Andy. You’re mixing up the players in the game. Senator Biden was outed by the media and rejected for the promotion to higher office, this part is true. However, he remained a fixture Democrat politics in the Senate, helping to guide the party for decades to come. Later, you may recall, his loyalty to the party was rewarded with the Vice-Presidency in spite of allegations of sexual assault to go with the frequent lies and deception he was guilty of. Of course, we know the political end game for Joe Biden as it relates to his lies and deceptions and the Democrats—-the pinnacle of power and the Presidency of the United States. I accept your acknowledgement of the wisdom of my post, and certainly appreciate the kind thoughts. If you’re an honest man, and you strike me as such, if the GOP follows the Democrat Biden Model as you have suggested, his future is quite bright indeed.

Just catching up on this post. It seems to me you’re confusing patriotism with blind loyalty. When a president or party has an agenda that one thinks is detrimental or harmful to the country, it’s perfectly rational and patriotic to hope that the agenda fails. At the same time, acceptance of the will of the people is paramount to a patriotic citizen in spite of feelings about agenda.

@B-Man advised you to do a bit of research, and I’ll limit my heavy lifting to this gem. https://imgflip.com/gif/4871ls Btw, this is one of my favorite media clips ever. Biden once had a certain charisma that made voters want to believe him. Most people know a guy like Joe Biden, quick wit, willing to say whatever came to mind to get a laugh but maybe a bit sensitive to questions about things he says or does. The arrogance displayed in this clip is hysterical because he really seems convinced that everything he said was completely true, and his complete douchesness is hysterical in context.

Deflecting?🤣 He got bounced out of a couple presidential races for lying about his education when people cared about such things. He was a national laughingstock. He’s made multiple false statements about his background, the jobs he’s held and so so much more. Santos is a speck on the political windshield who probably will get what’s coming his way for spinning his yarns. Folks elected Joe Biden leader of the free world in spite of his long, established history of making up stories and taking great creative license with his resume. You may like his lies better, or his agenda suits your needs better than someone like Santos’ might, but these are not new or novel concepts about Joe Biden.

Joe Biden…. Schooling, check. Finances, check. Background, check. Occupation, check. Again, if he follows the Biden model, he does a little time in the morality sin bin and this guy just might be President one day. Maybe not Joe Biden’s parents, because somewhere along the line Joe realized in politics, it’s not so much about degrees of lying, it’s that people will rationalize their support with a “degrees of lying” argument without fail.