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This possibility seems very exciting given the terrible rise in autism rates
Medical Cannabis May Treat Autism
Once thought to be the sole domain of criminals, jazz musicians, and beatniks, marijuana is coming into the mainstream as a viable treatment for a wide variety of ailments, including autism. For many, medical cannabis is now found to be a treatment that works when all others have failed. After pharmaceuticals cease working and other medically prescribed treatments come up lacking, many parents have found that plant medication is what works for their kids and family.
In addition to the stunning anecdotal evidence, scientists at Stanford and UC Irvine have found that the active ingredients in cannabis, cannabinoids, are indicated in the treatment of autism-linked mutations and Fragile-X syndrome. The Stanford study found that the endocannabinoid system, which is the body’s natural cannabinoid system, was disrupted in autistics, and that marijuana helped the system correct itself.
The UC Irvine study showed that once the cannabinoid system was regulated with marijuana, autistic mice improved in measures of anxiety and open-space acceptance. While neither study found that the plant medicine was a cure, the door is open to further research, giving hope to autistic patients.
Continued at http://guardianlv.co...-treats-autism/
Or this article from more of a business perspective http://www.mainstreet.com/article/family/family-health/marijuana-could-treat-autism-0
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For your own sake don't ignore my earlier advice about crusading.
I find it odd that you have no issue with nonsensical postings about McDonalds queues, breakfast cereals, Dickey Do Disease, and magical cowbells but my post, technically a response to a question on obesity with links to research studies on cannabinoids, is the one that has ruffled feathers and has become problematic.
The information is contained within a single 'off topic' thread about cannabis and health problems. There is no board take over, turning every conversation to a single subject.
What is inappropriate about linking to research studies on GW Pharma site? They are probably the premier cannabis research company in the world today.
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My cnn link worked just fine for me http://www.cnn.com/2...etes/index.html Edit: I understand now that you mean the link within the CNN article.
I had a non-cannabis article copied into my earlier post. You were correct. I had gotten carried away with my cutting and pasting and included a non-cannabis FOX article. Sorry about that and thanks for catching it. I have removed it. It was a cool picture though, eh?
Gary, if the study underlying the CNN article is flawed, I will take your word for it.
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Believe me when I say this, Chano. After trying to respond to your postings here, I think I would rather you have diabetes too
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Funny you should ask.
Check out this link from Cheerios on a new cannabis based.....
ok, just kiddin, but now I can see that you are starting to come around
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And this list of studies from the GW Pharmaceutical site http://www.gwpharm.com
Cannabinoid Publications in Metabolic Disease
Wargent ET, Zaibi MS, Silvestri C, Hislop DC, Stocker CJ, Stott CG, Guy GW, Duncan M, Di Marzo V, Cawthorne MA. Nutr Diabetes. 2013 May 27;3:e68.
The endocannabinoid system in energy homeostasis and the etiopathology of metabolic disorders.
Silvestri C, Di Marzo V. Cell Metab. 2013 Apr 2;17(4):475-90.
Cannabinoids and Endocannabinoids in Metabolic Disorders with Focus on Diabetes
Di Marzo V, Piscitelli F, Mechoulam R. Handb Exp Pharmacol. 2011;(203):75-104.
Cannabinoids inhibit insulin receptor signalling in pancreatic β-cells
Kim W, Doyle ME, Liu Z, Lao Q, Shin YK, Carlson OD, Kim HS, Thomas S, Napora JK, Lee EK, Moaddel R, Wang Y, Maudsley S, Martin B, Kulkarni RN, Egan JM. Diabetes. 2011 Apr;60(4):1198-209.
A role for the putative cannabinoid receptor GPR55 in the islets of Langerhans
Romero-Zerbo SY, Rafacho A, Díaz-Arteaga A, Suárez J, Quesada I, Imbernon M, Ross RA, Dieguez C, Rodríguez de Fonseca F, Nogueiras R, Nadal A, Bermúdez-Silva FJ. J Endocrinol. 2011 Nov;211(2):177-85.
Silvestri C, Ligresti A, Di Marzo V. Rev Endocr Metab Disord. 2011 Sep;12(3):153-62.
Banni S, Di Marzo V. Mol Nutr Food Res. 2010 Jan;54(1):82-92.
Riedel G, Fadda P, McKillop-Smith S, Pertwee RG, Platt B, Robinson L. Br J Pharmacol. 2009 Apr;156(7):1154-66
Nunn AV, Bell JD, Guy GW. Nutr Metab (Lond). 2009 Apr 16;6:16.
Nunn AV, Guy GW, Bell JD. Immunobiology. 2010 Aug;215(8):617-28
The endocannabinoid system in metabolic control: a preface.
Di Marzo V. Best Pract Res Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2009 Feb;23(1):vii-ix.
Cannabidiol arrests onset of autoimmune diabetes in NOD mice.
Weiss L, Zeira M, Reich S, Slavin S, Raz I, Mechoulam R, Gallily R. Neuropharmacology. 2008 Jan;54(1):244-9
Cannabidiol lowers incidence of diabetes in non-obese diabetic mice.
Weiss L, Zeira M, Reich S, Har-Noy M, Mechoulam R, Slavin S, Gallily R. Autoimmunity. 2006 Mar;39(2):143-51.
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Anybody mention obesity as a disease? Stoner's like munchies, snacks. The Mary Jane surely can't be helping that "disease" and gratuitous calories people will consume.
Ask about obesity? Check out this article. Studies show that regular cannabis users are statistically less obese
http://www.cnn.com/2...etes/index.html
(TIME.com) -- Toking up may help marijuana users to stay slim and lower their risk of developing diabetes, according to the latest study, which suggests that cannabis compounds may help in controlling blood sugar.
Although marijuana has a well-deserved reputation for increasing appetite via what stoners call "the munchies," the new research, which was published in the American Journal of Medicine, is not the first to find that the drug has a two-faced relationship to weight.
Three prior studies have shown that marijuana users are less likely to be obese, have a lower risk for diabetes and have lower body-mass-index measurements. And these trends occurred despite the fact that they seemed to take in more calories. (continued at the link)
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These are marginal US tax rates.... today they can get as high as 39% or so, if I recall.
As recent as 1986 the highest rate was 50%
As recent as 1981 the highest rate was 70%
As recent as 1964 the highest rate was 77%
From 1949 - 1963 the highest rate was 91%
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You could be right about Trump. There are several issues with a bid from him. His gambling interests, his personality, and that whole USFL thing don't really work in his favor. That being said, you know that we'd have a loud voice stumping for us in owners meetings. RE: The USFL, i don't see any of the legacy ownership groups voting to approve him.
To me Trump seems to be mostly hot air, always looking for a way to push himself into the public eye.
If you were the other owners, would you want to have the accompanying Donald Circus at every owners' meeting? They would need to be pretty much out of options to pick The Donald, imo
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Why isn't every police-citizen encounter recorded these days?
Make the recordings from the officer's vest. Make them unalterable by the police and available to any citizen that wants to file an official complaint.
That by itself would discourage bullies from wanting to take the job of police officer. It would make it easier to weed out the bad apples without members of the police squad having to snitch on each other too.
In many cases guilty citizens would not fight the charges in court as often if they are captured demonstrating their guilt on camera, such as DUI's.
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Ask the Toronto Group to structure an ironclad, bulletproof, legal agreement not to move the team until 2035, involving ridiculous monetary penalties for doing so.. Then I will believe they won't move. About half a billion penalty would convince me.
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This troll, me, has been a member on here since 2001 - about 3 years longer than you, Mr Adams. So, bite me. From my perspective you and Chano are the disruptive trolls in this thread.
For God's sake, 7 posts ago (just 2 of them mine), you defended my right to post here. What happened?
It is just information. Don't read the post if you aren't interested. How easy is that solution? Last I looked there were over 600 views so maybe there were readers that were interested other than you.
Was it the information on pets or.....Oh, I see! You must be a pharmacy rep and didn't like that tidbit on the vicodin side-effects, was that it?
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If you haven't reached my point yet, (even though I've been making it all along), I don't believe medical marijuana is as miraculous as you say. You claim it might cure numerous diseases, but I haven't seen the data for that. You say it doesn't have side-effects like vicodin, but I'm sure that will change as well.
Courtesy of drugs.com
Side effects of vicodin, just for comparison purposes:
Some side effects of Vicodin may not be reported. Always consult your doctor or healthcare specialist for medical advice. You may also report side effects to the FDA.
For the Consumer
Applies to acetaminophen / hydrocodone: oral capsule, oral elixir, oral liquid, oral solution, oral syrup, oral tablet
Along with its needed effects, acetaminophen / hydrocodone may cause some unwanted effects. Although not all of these side effects may occur, if they do occur they may need medical attention.
Check with your doctor immediately if any of the following side effects occur while taking acetaminophen / hydrocodone:
More common
- Dizziness
- lightheadedness
Incidence not known
- Back, leg, or stomach pains
- black, tarry stools
- bleeding gums
- blood in the urine or stools
- blood in vomit
- bluish lips or skin
- chills
- choking
- cough or hoarseness
- dark urine
- decrease in the frequency of urination
- decrease in urine volume
- difficult or troubled breathing
- difficulty in passing urine (dribbling)
- difficulty with breathing
- difficulty with swallowing
- fast heartbeat
- fever
- fever with or without chills
- general body swelling
- general feeling of tiredness or weakness
- headache
- irregular, fast or slow, or shallow breathing
- light-colored stools
- loss of appetite
- lower back or side pain
- nausea or vomiting
- nosebleeds
- not breathing
- painful or difficult urination
- pale or blue lips, fingernails, or skin
- pinpoint red spots on the skin
- puffiness or swelling of the eyelids or around the eyes, face, lips, or tongue
- severe or continuing stomach pain
- shortness of breath or troubled breathing
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skin rash
, hives, or itching - sore throat
- sore tongue
- sores, ulcers, or white spots on the lips or in the mouth
- tightness in the chest
- unable to speak
- unusual bleeding or bruising
- unusual tiredness or weakness
- upper right abdominal or stomach pain
- yellow eyes and skin
Get emergency help immediately if any of the following symptoms of overdose occur while taking acetaminophen / hydrocodone:
Symptoms of overdose
- Bloody or cloudy urine
- change in consciousness
- chest pain or discomfort
- cold and clammy skin
- decreased awareness or responsiveness
- extreme drowsiness
- general feeling of discomfort or illness
- increased sweating
- irregular heartbeat
- lightheadedness, dizziness, or fainting
- loss of consciousness
- no blood pressure or pulse
- no muscle tone or movement
- not breathing
- severe sleepiness
- slow or irregular heartbeat
- stopping of heart
- sudden decrease in the amount of urine
- unconsciousness
- unpleasant breath odor
Some side effects of acetaminophen / hydrocodone may occur that usually do not need medical attention. These side effects may go away during treatment as your body adjusts to the medicine. Also, your health care professional may be able to tell you about ways to prevent or reduce some of these side effects. Check with your health care professional if any of the following side effects continue or are bothersome or if you have any questions about them:
More common
- Drowsiness
- relaxed and calm
- sleepiness
Incidence not known
- Belching
- changes in mood
- difficulty having a bowel movement (stool)
- fear or nervousness
- feeling of indigestion
- hearing loss
- impaired hearing
- pain in the chest below the breastbone
- unusual drowsiness, dullness, tiredness, weakness, or feeling of sluggishness
- Dizziness
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I use the internet and my razor-sharp wit.
...and get your butt kicked by a gang of baby seals.....lol
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OK, if you have watched or read about cannabinoids and cannabinoid receptors, you now know that they are in animals too, including pets.
After the jokes die down, if you have an older pet with health issues, it may be worth further research. Note, I am not any sort of medical professional.
If your pet is tolerating its medicine well and it is effective, certainly do not change anything. At this point my non-professional opinion would be to consider this option when there isn't really much else that your vet can do.
DO NOT FORCE SMOKE INTO YOUR PET'S FACE. I am talking about cannabis based medicines, such as glycerin tinctures, for pets, especially pets nearing the end of their life. Or, the concentrated oil can be smeared onto treats or even right onto the teeth of a pet that has no appetite. It will be absorbed through the tissues in the mouth as it melts. Capsules can easily be made from the concentrates if your pet can take them. Start with the tiniest of dosages and work up to an effective dose.
Why would anyone do that to their pet, right? Well, as with people, it largely has to do with positive effects and lack of negative side effects.
The big three positive effects I suppose are pain reduction, appetite stimulation, and restful sleep. As with people too, an animal will need a few doses to get used to the medicine and may lose some coordination with the initial doses. Be careful around stairs or drop-offs. Watch the animal until it falls asleep. If given a large dose be watchful as the pet could wet the bed. They sleep very soundly and typically wake up, go outside to do some business, come in, and head to their food bowl.
I guess it shouldn't be all that surprising that veterinarians haven't started reusing it as medicine, at least the vast majority of them. Few enough doctors believe in the benefits and people are telling them directly. Not many dogs are talking, even after ingesting cannabis.
I want to mention one, certain to be doubted effect that I witnessed first hand. The concentrated cannabis oil, when repeatedly applied over the course of a month or two, can shrink mast cell tumors on the skin of a dog. My dog, due to anesthesia problems could not withstand more surgery. I had read about this cannabis possibility, had the oil on hand, and so started melting my dog's leg tumor over the course of six weeks.
When I returned to the same vet that had refused to remove the growth under a local, he was very surprised and wanted to know what I had done. I only took the dog to clean the wound because it now appeared that he was going to survive for a while and I was afraid that it might get infected. After cleaning up the wound area, the vet said, "the growth was now hanging on by a thread, so I removed it and sewed it up"
Several months later I had to put the dog down. Eventually his problems compounded and I couldn't take watching the struggle. On his last morning before our ride to the vet however, he had a good appetite.
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Here were some historical veterinary uses of cannabis
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Some more good news. Illinois children and adults with epilepsy will soon be allowed to treat with cannabis.
http://news.msn.com/...n-with-seizures
Here's an 8 minute video of another recent child epilepsy success story
http://www.webmd.com/news/breaking-news/marijuana-on-main-street/medical-marijuana
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Chano, I never claimed to be a health care professional.
I no longer care what you believe. It is clear to me that it is not worth the effort that I have put into trying to help you. You have been wasting my time
Still unconvinced? I'm OK with that outcome.
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Tell ya what Chano, take a deep breath and consider if you actually want anything answered or you just want to agitate. At the moment I question your sincerity.
I'll start ya off on the business angle of cannabis growth and you can research from here or not.
Exponential sales growth is forecast in industries that supply cannabis, process cannabis, vaporize cannabis, and a hundred different ancillary businesses that can grow up around this industry. Everyone and their brother is starting cannabis related companies and investors flocked to put money into them. They have spiked and fallen and spiked and fallen a few times. It is a pending green rush that is just waiting on the the right time.
It is a sector that is driven by news and makes huge moves when it moves. Here are some of the companies in the sector. http://www.marijuanaindex.org/
"daily marijuana smoking is a risk factor for progression of fibrosis among people with chronic hepatitis C infection"
Someone with Hep C? Marijuana can cure that **** probably! Heart condition? Oh, don't bother telling your doctor you're using marijuana behind his back, you'll be cured in no time!
The wonder drug, coming with horrific side-effects to a pharmacy near you! Just make sure you don't tell your doctor about it!
Oh, I almost forgot. Here is a more recent study on cannabis and liver function. Check it out.
Marijuana smoking does not appear to cause progression of liver fibrosis in the Canadian HIV/HCV Co-infection Cohort study
April 2012
Authors:Brunet L, Moodie EE, Rollet K, Tyndall M, Potter M, Conway B, Walmsley S, Pick N, Cooper C, Cox J, Klein MB for the Canadian Co-infection Cohort (CTN222)
Location: 21st Annual Canadian Conference on HIV/AIDS Research (CAHR 2012) Montreal
Background:
The literature on the effect of cannabis
on liver diseases is conflicting. Cell cultures and animal model studies
conclude that cannabidiol could have a therapeutic effect on liver
injuries. However, cross-sectional studies of chronic HCV
patients suggest that daily cannabis use is associated with fibrosis
and steatosis. This study aims at estimating the causal effect of
marijuana use on liver fibrosis progression in the Canadian Co-infection Cohort study.
Conclusion:
Marijuana smoking does not have a causal effect on
progression to liver disease in co-infected individuals.
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Just a followup in the lightening round, can't we tell something by the number of potential rounds or the allowance for magazines on these rifles?
I mean unless you are hunting baby seals, why would a hunter need a hundred rounds?
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Yes, there are several people here arguing against it.
The truth is that there is not any strongly organized medical pot movement, at least that I know of. There are some organizations but they are weak and poorly funded. State by state, laws have been changed and seemingly citizens start anew battling the same issues over again that were battled in the last state. There is little carryover from other states.
Money drives politics these days and most patients are sick or disabled and that equates to poor. Had cannabis had the power of the drug lobby behind it, we would all be smelling skunky these days.
Within the last year or so, Wall Street has been taking notice of the potential and so the latest drivers in the cannabis arena are business and profit potential. Business can often blur the medical/recreational line as so many businesses do not care. This will move the country toward legalization much faster than any compassion for the sick.
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You make a fine point. You can't trust things you read on the web. Be careful. Check sources.
Seriously, I don't wish to argue. Look at the information, watch the video, or don't .
I sincerely believe the information on cannabis use as medicine can help many people. You don't. I'm OK with that. I knew I could never convince some people, no matter the evidence
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Apparently then I was wrong.
You win this discussion. I was completely wrong and I apologize.
Is there some reason you can't carry on the discussion without being so damn condescending and insulting? Reminds me of Denniis Leary without the humor. It is a shame because it was educational there for a moment.
You win, I was wrong.
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This seemed to be a forum for issues of the day. The discussion that I joined was 6 pages in before I got involved so I don't think I can take credit for starting that one. I started this post to try and unbury the information from such a long thread that was full of name calling.
I have tried to convince people to look at the cannabis info with an open mind. I hope that some have. I have provided you plenty of information to get started. If interested, continue the research. If not, don't.
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You can lead a horse to water....
I didn't say don't talk to your doctor, if you actually read the words. Here this is what I said (from above):
Anyway, be careful in discussions with your doctors. It sounds odd to say because generally they are such experts and we confide in them, but most doctors were taught only about the harmful effects of this in med school. Also, consider that most doctors were studious and weren't necessarily the most streetwise and so didn't learn a lot about cannabis growing up. Add in the fact that very few pharmaceutical companies are pushing cannabis based solutions. Doctors, with few exceptions, are not experts on cannabis based solutions. Many are very opposed.
Don't talk about your usage or desire to use cannabis until you have felt them out a little. Maybe the old, 'I have this friend that was talking about using cannabis to treat...' would be a good approach
I know full well that it will not cure everyone of everything. And it has been mentioned, it has side effects though they are mild.
What I am saying is that there are tremedous medicinal properties within the plant. After reading 6 pages of stoner accusations and misconceptions in the earlier marijuana thread I wanted to try to educate some folks hoping that the information might help them.
If you can't see the possibilities already, you probably never will.
Know anyone with a disease? Read this
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Posted · Edited by Bob in Mich
This study talks about THC injections bringing on paranoia. That problem was mentioned in an earlier thread on cannabis use by several posters.
This is also one of the reasons patients do not seem to like using Marinol (synthetic THC) as much as the whole plant or whole plant extracts, in my opinion. I believe that the CBD lessens the anxious feelings but the researchers weren't looking at CBD in this study. Cannabinoids working in concert has been called the 'entourage effect'.
Study Sheds Light on Marijuana and Paranoia
By Peter Russell
WebMD Health News
Reviewed by Rob Hicks, MD
July 17, 2014 -- An in-depth investigation has concluded that people who smoke marijuana are much more likely to have paranoia than people who don't use the drug.
The study also identifies psychological factors that can lead to feelings of paranoia in people exposed to the main psychoactive ingredient in marijuana, THC.
(continued at link)
http://www.webmd.com...2314_hdln_2&mb=
A new study suggests that a few strong whiffs of black pepper can calm anxiety brought on by marijuana
How Black Pepper relieves Cannabis Anxiety
By Owen Smith — 17 Jul, 2014
http://cannabisdigest.ca/black-pepper-relieves-cannabis-anxiety/
From the article
While working at the Victoria Cannabis Buyers Club I was able to teach some of the members about Black Pepper. While benefiting from the medicinal effects of THC, these patients suffered from bouts with anxiety while medicating.
Most patients who have tried this simply took a few sniffs of the black pepper to receive an almost immediate effect. Others have reported that after chewing on pepper corns they felt relief within an hour...