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The "Jordan Poyer" route may be how this ends. Still with a bad attitude, though.

That's sort of the point. The economy is the topic. And, more specifically, the lack of focus on the issues of concern to Americans. Read the polling. Read even this board. The MAGA focus now is on gibberish and nonsense. Rooftop dancing, alligator-protected concentration camps, new investigations about old news, and arbitrary tariffs. None of that deals with the issues of principal concern to Americans, namely, the state of the working class economy and the Epstein files. (The Epstein files representing, of course, a touchstone for rich people getting one over on regular folks.) MAGA is doing exactly what Democrats did in ignoring inflation during the Biden administration, and this thread illustrates as much.

And the stuff Trump is doing is not helping the economy. There’s your problem. It is not improving and, for low wage earners, it’s getting worse. Meanwhile, there’s talk of this hoax and that hoax and detention camps and the YMCA dance. They have lost the plot.

He comes back with a rotten attitude. The vast majority of the Bills, in my dealings with them and from what I hear from people who deal with them regularly, are good, kind people who just want to earn a living and live a relatively quiet and decent life. I say “vast majority” because Ed Oliver and James Cook are on the team. Knowing what I know about Cook (nothing sinister about either one, more personality, selfishness, and stupidity-driven), I have a hard time believing this administration is going to break the bank to pay him. Maybe he gets a relatively short term, fair deal. But I will be surprised if he gets top of market from these guys.

That’s what MAGA has done. This hoax, that hoax, this alligator detention camp, that YMCA dance on top of the roof of the White House. All people really, really care about right now is the economy and those pesky Epstein files. That’s it. And MAGA has lost the plot. Comments welcome, or not. It would be nice if one of our resident conspiracy theorists could let me know if I’ve missed any hoaxes in particular that are relevant to what should be this lively discussion.

You’re getting there. Use the period and you’ll have it.

This is a little odd. I heard through the grapevine that McD nuked someone for some unauthorized outside activity (curfew-related) in the last couple of days. I assumed it was Cline (also assuming it’s true), but maybe it was part of the tipping point with Spector.

You’re not supposed to use an exclamation point after “hoax.” I’ll illustrate the proper usage of the term soon.

But would trump understand it? Probably not. He’d be talking about windmills and alternative facts and Biden appointees like Jay Powell.

Is that a shot at Trump? Because he’s headed that way. And even if his diction is better than Biden’s, he too has plenty of hints of dementia.

What’s easier to replace? Cook or 2/3 of the IOL that keeps the NFL MVP in one piece? I go with the IOL. That said, I think cook is probably worth $12m. I just don’t see how he gets it here with McGovern, Edwards, and Torrence all up soon. We can’t pay everyone, and cheap at RB might be the way to go. Maybe this ends in a Poyer type scenario where he gets a little bit of a raise and some incentives and then tests the market in the spring.

Please. Your interpretation of the subject verse is inconsistent with the teachings of Jesus. Save your gun gospel and prosperity gospel theories for someone else.

Initially you said it was inane, not insane. Just pick one. And save your prosperity/gun gospel theories for someone else. Like that chicken I mentioned earlier.

It's a reference to the Gospel of Matthew and Jesus's teaching of peace. Apparently that's what you define as inane.

What, no cartoons this morning?

I was trying to think of how to to explain to you how you're wrong about this, but then I remembered that you aren't very smart and that I'd have better luck teaching a chicken about gravity than I would trying to help you with this one.

Yeah, sure. And then everyone would be affected by a black swan. It’s so dumb it doesn’t merit discussion.

Privatizing social security is a stupid idea that will benefit only the investor class.

But are Democrats evil? That’s a talking point. Obviously they’re not. Just as all MAGA aren’t slobs. The cycle of poverty thing is a great point. You’re right about that. My beef with MAGA is not the frustration with the status quo. It’s the leader (Trump is a fool), the lying (pervasive), the character (immoral, for a variety of reasons), and the false sense entitlement. There’s plenty of good, hardworking MAGA who I respect and with whom I have no issue. But there’s plenty who are simply contemptible. They think they work hard, they crap on immigrants, they think the world owes them a favor, and they’re really lazy as they come. It’s a lot of America right now. They gotta get off their butts and get to work. Get those crappy jobs in the fields to earn and work and move up. Do the stuff nobody else wants to do. And they’ll find that the harder they work, the luckier they will get.

Those Democrats, FYI, are today’s republicans. And this is exactly the message that the fatties in MAGA are going to get from Republicans if the lousy job numbers persist.

People from both parties inhabit the couch. But spare me the idea that MAGA isn’t entitled and in significant part out of shape. They’ve been bamboozled by the idea that immigration is an unspeakable evil and lack the introspection to inquire whether their own actions have led to their lots in life. I’m as pro union as it gets. Do you support organized labor and the organization of farm workers? I do. The vast majority of Republicans, however, do not. And, check out the article in the BNews from a few weeks ago about migrant labor in Niagara County. A farmer is quoted as saying he hasn’t had an “American” apply for such a job in 15 years. Could it be wages? Of course. But is it true that Americans also are generally unwilling to do that grunt work, irrespective of the wage? Absolutely.

Keep calling a democrats evil and pedos and you’ll keep pushing them away, too. Of course the statement is a generality. But it’s not altogether unfair when one looks at obesity and mortality rates in places like West Virginia.

I don’t disagree with a lot of this. We’re getting to a point, however, where the market will force some hands. Want to finish the harvest? Farmers will have to pay more, as well they should. And want to earn a living? MAGA is gonna have to get off the couch and take those jobs.

I won’t argue with you on the education piece, but much as you look down your nose on the lazy, over educated liberals (I have similar contempt for them, FYI), I look down my nose at the undereducated, over entitled, fat, lazy MAGA fools who think the world owes them some sort of birthright favor. We’re a lot more similar than you think.

My point is that a lot of MAGA is either too lazy or too physically unfit to do the work. But if these jobs numbers continue to deteriorate, they may have no choice. And the farmers may have to take them. Maybe this push for physical labor is the secret MAHA plan. But it’s going to be funny watching these fatties sweat off the pounds and try to sneak vape breaks.