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14 hours ago, BringBackOrton said:
It has nothing to do with 300 yard or multi TD games. I’m not sure Allen beats Minshew in a single statistical category. Ditto for Wentz or Goff.
I certainly ask myself why all these young first, second and third year QB’s are able to be better than our QB. I’m growing increasingly worried about the answer.
Understood. But I don’t have any worries at this point. Josh has barely a full season of games played. He was at a smaller school. He had many detractors and criticisms coming out in the draft. His development seems commensurate with all those factors. Some guys just take longer to develop and begin to excel. I think draft position creates unrealistic expectations as well. The draft is still largely a crap shoot. -
44 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said:
do you ever think if Watson can do it, why can’t Allen? Or if Minshew can do it, why not Allen? Or if Goff can do it, why not Allen? Or if Wentz can do it, why not Allen?
Not really. None of those guys is in the same class as Mahomes. Maybe Watson makes me wonder a little, but the others aren’t “great”. But the performance of those guys may raise expectations for some people I suppose.But, I will say that the league is changing in that it is becoming more and more commonplace for a rookie to step in and have sporadic success in the form of 300-yard games and multi-TD games.
Allen’s peak so far seems to have been the Miami game last year when he had 5 TDs. Personally, I think he has improved a lot this year and hopefully that trend will continue. He will require some patience for sure.
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5 hours ago, BringBackOrton said:
Okay, I guess I’m trying to tease out a different distinction. What unrealistic expectations do you think are made of young QB’s? Do you think folks expect a QB like Allen to be Mahomes? Or do they expect him to just be a good QB?
Do you think Jags fans are upset that Minshew isn’t playing at a Mahomes level, or do you think they are content with his level of play as a rookie?
I can only speak for myself. I sometimes find myself wondering if Mahomes can do it, why can’t Josh Allen? But then I realize that Mahomes is an anomaly and try to temper my expectations of Josh. So when I read some criticism of Josh, I wonder if others are experiencing the same expectations. It’s a seductive thing to see Mahomes play at an All Pro level and transfer that expectation onto other young QBs. Much like Brady was a 6th round anomaly, and people wonder why someone drafted at the top of the draft doesn’t become as good as Brady. -
15 hours ago, BringBackOrton said:
Most QB’s who are good though are usually pretty good by their second or third year though. Your initial point was about unrealistic expectations though, and there’s nothing unrealistic about expecting young QB’s to be good by their second to third years because, again, most good QB’s are good by that time.
The anomalies are really the sucky QB’s in years 2-3 eventually becoming good.
Keep saying good, but you are arguing a point with yourself.
Mahomes was great in his very first start and has been consistently great from that point forward - many 300 yard and multi-touchdown games. He won the league MVP in his first full season of starting. If that’s not an anomaly then I guess I’m using the wrong definition.
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26 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said:
Really? How many good QB’s weren’t good by their second or third year in the league??
Did I say “good”? Nope.
The point is most QBs do not become instantly great, like Mahomes. People see his rise and expect someone like Allen to do the same. When he doesn’t become another anomaly, he’s viewed as a bust, or at least as failing.-
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5 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said:
Anomalies for what? Good QB’s?
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11 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said:
Watson has been really good as well. That doesn’t help.
Amen. Daniel Jones has put up big numbers here and there also. But these are still anomalies. -
3 hours ago, mannc said:
He’s talented, but he’s played his entire career with an organization that has been devoid of competent QBs and coaches.
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An anomaly like Mahomes raises expectations for all young QBs. It’s often disappointing to have unrealistic expectations.
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As long as we keep playing DII schools, we’ll be ok.
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Fantastic job? They got lucky and won the coin toss.
And what would Belichick have done - make the wind change directions?
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This is an amazing post! Thanks for the memories. One to add.....
....you not only remember Preston Ridlehuber, but you know the two famous plays he was involved in.
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When they win, I don’t care if they’re wearing thongs with Brady’s face on the front.
When they lose, whatever they are wearing looks like *****.
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18 minutes ago, DC Tom said:
Seriously, mods...how are people with less than 250 posts starting threads? If you're going to go back on your promise to limit their thread-starting abilities, I'm going back on my promise to not call them idiots.
So with post 251, someone becomes less of an idiot?
I’m inclined to think idiocy is something one is stuck with, like being red-headed, left-handed, or being named Tom. ?
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Her belly button seems kinda high....but I’m willing to take one for the team.
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1 hour ago, UConn James said:
I went to my first game at Rich/Ralph/NE Field back in 1997, and while walking through the lot, some drunk started in about me wearing my authentic Kelly jersey, saying I should get a current player. **** that and **** him. Wear what you want. You and I are not there to impress anyone with our fashion choices.
Maybe this was the same guy that gave me crap for wearing a #15 Kemp white throwback jersey to a game years ago. -
“Conor, thanks for stopping in. Look, we need to make some roster moves, so we need to cut you. Once we make our moves, we plan to sign you back on, because, you know, no one is gonna sign you in the interim (coughs nervously)”
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I listened to Jeremy tell his story on the WGR vault and although it was heart-wrenching, both my wife and I were amazed and uplifted by his strength of character and attitude about the tragedy. His ability to tell the story without completely losing it was remarkable, as was his eloquence and gratitude. As sad as it was to hear, we were both uplifted by his approach to seeing the good and opportunity to help others in the future. I have always liked listening to Jeremy and definitely have great respect for him as a man and father. God bless them all.
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2 hours ago, Billsman623 said:
Getting worried myself he wasn't on air all week and no social media activity either.
Nowadays it goes: boy, boy, non-binary, and “we’ll let it choose sex at age 8”-
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Yeah - pissing in troughs. Do they still have those?
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5 hours ago, row_33 said:
you can't be traumatized a second time
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It’s all a smokescreen to make Belicheck think we have WR problems and make him ignore our passing game.
Some old school 2D chess by McBean.
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3 minutes ago, SuperBills12 said:When do we need to cut it off??
When do we need to cut it off?
Peter
I’m traumatized by this....-
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Trubisky, hanging on by a thread
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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And thus my point about the draft being a crap shoot. Minshew wasn’t on anyone’s radar and apparently he can really play. He may be playing better than he did in college. He is another anomaly, albeit one that doesn’t get the press that Mahomes does.
Josh Allen is who many described him before the draft - a bit of a raw project who will take some time to develop. And that’s exactly what he has proven to be.