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Bingo. I agree 100%. Thats why rubes like me think they are not much more than an abortion mill. Maybe if they did some good PR fools like me would be educated about them. A bit extreme. But Im comfortable in my stance that one can be against abortions without wanting them outlawed. Maybe that makes me a hypocrite. I dont know. But Im also against cheap vokda and bad porn, and if Coli and Offen want to down a quart of Georgi while watching that lame movie with that ex wrestler chick and beat each other off, they can have at it.

Gee, I wonder how many libs are going to whine about the "cost" of the Inauguration and how "govt money can/should go to other 'more important things', blah blah blah" like they did over and over in 2004.

Where are you getting your ##s from? I hope youre not pulling them out of the air.

I think youre really splitting hairs on the links issue. We are interpreting it completely differently, which is fine. Will this card "increase abortions", I dont know. Frankly, Id like to see the rsults after six months. There is where the proof wil lie.

No sh--, !@#$. Thats what the whole second half of this thread has been about and I was THE FIRST person to check. Exactly. Thats not the point of the debate. Nobody ever disputed that.

Wal-Mart's product offering is MUCH more diverse than PP. Many dont sell guns at all. Bad example.

I dont have a problem with them doing this, as Ive said several times in this thread. I have a problem with people trying to hide the fact like PJ was doing. I just want people to be !@#$ing honest instead of spinning whats in front of their faces to meet their own needs. They are running an incentive offer. They are trying to promote their product offering, one of the main ones being abortions. So its not making someone a "nutjob" to argue this incentive is making abortions easier to get. Just as it doesnt make someone a "nutjob" for arguing that the midnight regulation is making abortions harder to get. I am against abortions, but also think they should be legal and available.

1. The action fund link 2. The main nav link 3. The "midnight regulation" link 4. The picture of the woman holding the sign 5. The words "reproductive health" in the top banner. Im not going to comment on how they should run their site or promote this service, as that is not what this discussion is about. I dont care if they run a "Free Abortions Sweeptakes!" All Im doing is stating that this is ONE OF their main service offerings/causes and they promote it as such.

Thats not entirely true. I took a quick gander at their site and abortion is front and center. If its not their main "product", then its pretty damn close to the top of the list.

Youre a lousy landscaper. Most do snow removal in the winter. Personally, I dont care what PP does. Im totally and morally opposed to abortions and think they are murder. But I ALSO think they should be legal and avialable to those whose moral compass is different than mine. Live and let live...what a concept. But y'all in MY territory now. When a company runs a general promotion and offers general, untargeted incentives like gift cards, they arent promoting their LEAST well know product, they are promoting their MOST well known product. So ALL IM SAYING...its not a stretch for one to accuse PP of "promoting abortions" by offering this incentive. NOW...if Im way off base and PP is well known for things OTHERS than abortions, then I stand corrected.

One of Bush's main reasons for invading iraq was to stop terrorism in the United States. Since 9/11 its been pretty quiet here. So you just validated the Iraq War.

Speak Engrish, please.

Good point! It worked really well to prosecute the criminals who purported the 1993 bombings of a certain NYC building. I think Ill go to Windows on the World for lunch today.

Call me dense, but if an organization's main source of income is from a particular product and they are offering gift cards, then isnt it a safe assumption that they are promoting sale of this product? You think Shell oil is offering gift cards so people buy more washer fluid?

Come on. Telling MG to book travel on a White Star Line cruise ship in April is out of bounds? Geez.

Its a damned shame you survived 9/11. Damned shame.

Funny, I feel the same way about Quakers. IMO, thinking the US can lay down its weapons, disband its military and live in peace and free from attack is right up there with the world was created in seven days on the "dangerous idiocy" scale.

No, BAD call. Becuase Im not defending creationism, nor am I advocate FOR this museum. Im pointing out how yet again, we have a "tolerant" liberal bashing other's opinions and at the same time, having the audacity to accuse OTHERS of "hate."

You have the audacity to call other's views and opinions about the origin of the Universe "stupid" and a few sentences later accuse OTHERS of stirring hate? I think you just proved the OP's core point.

"Whatever 'truculent' means, if its good I'm that."

Yup..."Killdrive" and "Fat Wade." They havent had any success since us all knowing fans ran them out of Buffalo.

Im not mud. Im a child of the most high God. And I love being one. Happy Holidays!

Ugh. Well, I got dragged into the pig sty. I guess I cant complain I got muddy.

Whether or not there was indeed a "pagan festival" years and decades and centuries ago that led to the Holiday being celebrated at this specific time of year, the fact is that the reason this Holiday is celebrated and the purpose of the season is to commemorate the birth of Christ. Try not to be a moron. Just give it a shot.