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I agree to some extent. You are what your record says you are...and we are a below .500 team with only one glaring liability and one position that fails to improve while all others have.

He made it on name only.

Let me say this again...you are what your record says you are.

We have a proven winner...he is sitting on the bench while guys like Rothlesburger get needed exp.

TIM TIMMUH!!!!

OU. http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnatio...stranker?id=228

Understand this....Before stoops we couldn't make the top 25. Honestly from the time Barry S retired we sucked. Then all of a sudden here comes stoops. Winning record and a bowl his first season with SOMEONE ELSES PLAYERS! Then in year 2 we win the national championship. Since then top 6 at worst. Guess what? Due to STOOPS REP/Recruiting ESPN etal have stated we are stocked for the next 5 years (being at least a contender for the title). so Yeah I gotta say it's Bob Stoops.

No he isn't kidding, the guy only has about 4 complete seasons to his name. The guy got to the probowl on his NAME. you remember just like ruben brown. Look this defense is doing just fine with him on the sidelines. Let them keep building chemestry and DON'T Screw stuff up!

Damn it! It's TIMMUH! It's the 'UH' that brings it home!

I hate to say this, but honestly how the hell does ND expect to get anyone worth a sh--? NO Talent. Only gave Willingham 3 years (which is a joke with the lack of talent and being shackled with some other clowns recruits) then fired him. No way in hell Meyer was going to give up being God like in Utah to go to ND and be canned in 3 years. Florida would have easilly been my pick

shhhhhh. don't say that it isn't accepted here.

"NFL personell guys have not put alot of value on backs like him..he's solid but probably not in any elite group... " Well don't tell anyone around here he isn't some elite back

shhh the homers don't want to hear that.

This is mannings year. He is finally using more than just marvin harrison. I say Indy wins it. if not...oh well, it ain't the bills so no biggie

Actually yes I believe they are.

But hey you got guys right here on this board that thinks he is cool for doing it.

Look they ALL did it. The guy was supplying them HgH and they all took it (I am sure in addition to other stuff) Barry bonds KNEW what he was taking. No one is going to buy his 'I didn't know' BS. As for Bonds saying he is willing to test at any time? Well hell yeah, you can't test for HgH. But I will say If I were MLB I would require him to let his hair grow out for 6 weeks or so and then do folicle testing. If he has taken anything else, it will show up. BTW...Anyone notice that athletes like him shave their heads a certain times? Hummmmm..... But hey 'he didn't know'

"A nice reverse with Bledsoe throwing a key block is nullified by a penalty against Jason Peters for not reporting as eligible. He is not having a very good half. WE try it again on the other side with MW leading the way. There is only one guy out there to stop the play by MW engulfs him so Evans goes for 15 and a first down. The drive ends when Drew throws a deep one to Evans who had single coverage. It was single coverage all right but the guy was all over him. The pass was a little overthrown and with coverage that good, it ended up a nice pick. Drew went to the right receiver and you would like to think Evans would beat the guy one on one. Oh well." Look at the endzone view again. The ball was a badly thrown ball. Had it been thrown to the middle of the field or just inside the hashmark it would have been a TD. Instead it was thrown over/to the outside of the WR which was dead on for an int. Now this is not just me, even the commentators reviewed the play and showed the exact same thing. Evans had his man beat for 6 IF the ball is thrown in the right place.

Who is with me. I just feel they can beat both NE and Pitt and even do it in back to back games.

I think you would be 100% Correct.

Well you got your wish. He refused to agree to the drug testing policies of the NFL and is now 'Retired'. The NFL Gave him until todays deadline to come back, serve the next 4 games on suspention then be done with it. He said no.

Not gonna happen 8-8

It would be nice if he payed his child support as well

Well throwing away his life to smoke pot is a total waste of life in general. Granted it's his to fugg up, but it's fugged up. BTW...it would be nice if this POS understood he has 3 children with 3 different women. He owes child support. So instead of WORKING and actually paying CS, he is instead smoking pot and learning how to make more herbs work for him. And YES this is fact. Oh and as for as 'He's made more money than someone who spends his day posting on a message board' Due to the law ( you know that thing we in the US actually have to follow to be part of this society) he is going to have to pay back 8 something million of it. To which he responds "they want more than I have available" To wit the NFL says 'Tough sh--'. Doing what you want to do with your life is great, as long as you meet the responsibilities you have created with that life I.e. Paying CS to the kids you helped to create and returning money you were given in good faith (signing bonus) for services you didn't fallow through on. it's called RESPONSIBILITY.

I just saw a deal on ESPN where they did an update on Wikky. He has turned down the NFL's option to re instate him. He doesn't want to be subject to the drug testing policy. Andrea Kramer said he told her he smokes pot every day. In addition he is renting a small house in some town called 'Grassvalley' or something like it while attending some herbal/holistic school. this guy is beyond fugged up.