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4 minutes ago, mrags said:
Well, their salaries last year tell you completely different. I think you are paying too much attention to what people actually say because Haack made almost double what Bojo did last year. If they were prepared to pay Haack that much, they surely would have been willing to pay Bojo that much. The fact is they weren’t comfortable with him being place holder for Bass. Which is also why he was cut from the Packers. And it’s exactly why Beane (if you want to pay attention to what he has said) said in his press conference yesterday that there’s much more to punting that just kicking the ball. He specifically brought up holding and said that Haack is an “elite holder”. Takes about holding the ball for almost 5 minutes out of a 20+ minute press conference about all the draft picks.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/matt-haack-22270/
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/corey-bojorquez-25923/
No arguments from me in terms of Bojorquez’s holding. He sucked at it and Bass felt it as well. I just think Corey had a higher opinion of himself than what the Bills thought so they went a different direction. Corey never got his big payday either. Here are McBeane’s words to the situation:
Quote“We’re always trying to improve our roster,” McDermott said. “Corey was in a situation where he had a good year and we got to a situation where both sides were talking and we just felt we had an opportunity that’s best for our team. At the end of the day, we wish Corey the best.”
“The one thing is, we’ve got a young kicker, we plan to have Reid (Ferguson) here as a long snapper – we were looking for someone who definitely wanted to be here for the long term,” Beane said. “We just weren’t on the same page (with Bojorquez), so we decided to look elsewhere and we’re very excited. We’ve obviously seen Matt up close (in the AFC East), he’s in the building and we’re excited to add him to our group.”
But anyway, just because Bojórquez could never get it right, I don’t think it’s fair to have all these reservations about Araiza when holding has really never been an issue in the team’s history. It’s not like we’re asking him to run routes against NFL DBs.
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32 minutes ago, mrags said:
He made less than Haack did last year. Like half as much. I doubt this statement is true.
I don’t know what he made after he left the Bills, but that’s what happened when he was here. Although I should add it was mostly speculation as to why a deal couldn’t get done in Buffalo, with most believing it was because him and his camp were asking for too much, but the Bills were definitely interested in bringing him back. And Beane commented on it during and after.
Bojorquez averaged 50.8 yards in his last season with the Bills, which was 4th best in NFL history, so I’m sure he had a certain value in mind for himself.
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46 minutes ago, Utah John said:
I saw a clip where Arazia was at his goal line when he punted, and the ball landed beyond the opposing 25.
The knock on Arazia is apparently that he doesn't get enough hang time, and that's a big worry. The Bills had a punter with the highest average in the league a couple of years ago, Bojorquez, and they cut him, and so have the teams he signed with. I don't know if he didn't have enough hang time or if he couldn't kick directionally, or if he wasn't a good holder on FGs and EPs. Whatever, there's a lot more going on there than just punting for average.
it would be great to have someone better than Haack punting for us, but I've read that Haack is an excellent holder for Bass. So it's not a lock that Arazia makes the team.
Holding for a FG only seems to have become an issue in the aftermath of Bojórquez. I think Araiza’s ability to catch and get the ball down properly is being entirely overblown.
EDIT: And Cory wasn’t cut. The Bills wanted him back but he and his agent had a higher price in mind than what the team was offering. Beane then came out with the comment of re-signing players who wanted to be here.
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1 hour ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:
Here is a VERY interesting article on Wydermyer which explains his precipitous drop in the draft rankings... I think that they consider him to be a diamond in the rough if they can bring him into the fold and help him.
https://www.draftcountdown.com/2022-nfl-draft/the-curious-case-of-jalen-wydermyer/
I’ve never seen a RAS score of 1. Yikes. Seems like he didn’t try or take it seriously.
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15 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said:
Unfortunately listening to Beane's Press conference they do.
Cody Ford is a bust. Move on and for God's sake protect the franchise QB.
Beane is very loyal to those early round draft picks.
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2 hours ago, ScottLaw said:
Crazy to think a SB favorite is one Diggs or Davis injury away from Jake ducking Kumerow starting. 😅
To be fair, most contending teams are in the “if we lose this player…” predicament. Impossible to have quality depth everywhere.
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Nick Cross, the safety from Maryland would’ve been my pick in the 3rd. Big guy with some serious speed, would’ve been nice to add that to the secondary. Perhaps Bernard would’ve been available in the 5th.
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3 minutes ago, gobills404 said:
I agree with both of those things, but Chenal is way more than athletic enough to be great in coverage and would’ve had a year to be coached up.
IMO he would’ve been the perfect AJ Klein replacement as a rookie while being groomed to take Edmunds job in 2023.
Can’t have any of these LBers challenging Edmunds, c’mon now.
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He never made a visit or talked with the Bills as far as we know, right? It’s interesting they’d choose him over some players who did meet with the team. I’ll reserve judgment on if they could’ve got him at the end of round 5, but I would’ve rolled the dice with a couple of the other prospects first. Hopefully this is a Terrence McGee level steal, haven’t had one of those in quite some time.
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“We didn’t anticipate taking a DE back to back last year and then later with the tackles. But if there’s a corner there (in the 2nd) that we like, we’d take him.”
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LB Brandon Smith, Penn St. Bills were rumored to be enamored with him.
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Just now, CoudyBills said:
Putting a rookie on that list is just trying too hard.
You don’t think Boogie Basham left a lot to be desired last season? A player picked in the 2nd round on a team starving for a pass rush? I didn’t say he doesn’t have time to improve, I said he left a lot to be desired his first year.
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13 minutes ago, Westside Madness said:
Which picks?
Cody Ford, AJ Epenesa, Boogie Basham (frequent healthy scratch for a team in need of pass rush), and Tremaine Edmunds, given what we thought we were trading up for.
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It’s interesting Beane didn’t have a first round grade on Jermaine Johnson, Booth, or Lloyd. I’m also surprised he’d admit that. Let’s hope his grading system proves correct this time, some of his early picks in years past have left a lot to be desired.
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They got it half right. They needed REM’s “Everybody Hurts” playing in the background as he read.
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5 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:
Bruce ran a 4.8 . You have a minimum of 4 Bruces rushing against other cloned teams that likely aren’t putting up an o-linemen. I will take my chance with Smith covering long enough to reach the QB.
Oh, I thought the 11 cloned players would go against a real team? My thought in choosing Kearse is that he was basically a bigger Von Miller and could’ve been an all time great if injuries hadn’t derailed his career. But then again, when you’re that big and that athletic, perhaps injuries are inevitable. I think Bo Jackson ran into a freak injury because he was too athletic for his own body.
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Just now, IronMaidenBills said:
More than 11 Bruce Smiths though? Teams hated playing against 1 Bruce Smith. Imagine if they had to face 5 rushing Smiths!!
Bruce was better on the DL, no doubt, but if you need 11 of them, I think Kearse would hold up much better in the back 7. He probably could’ve played safety!
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11 Jevon Kearses on defense would be hell. Dude was an athletic freak in every sense.
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25 minutes ago, gobills404 said:
Monster plays like that are such a rare occurrence for any RB though. JT was the only back with more than 2 carries of 40+ yards with 5, which still made up a measly 1.5% of his total attempts. And not a single back had more than 2 catch and runs of 40+ yards. Putting a high value on being a “home run hitter” is majoring in something minor.
Not arguing that plays over 40 yards happen frequently, but when a player has that skill set and needs to be accounted for, it absolutely forces a defense to play an offense differently. It’s why Beane wants that sort of player in his offense, the threat to take it the distance opens up other opportunities. By the way, I’m not advocating for RB in the first round, the gist of my posts is “if Beane wants this type of player in the offense, I’d rather he found it at the RB position than WR.” If Hall can be that guy, get him. It’s not a luxury.
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1 hour ago, newcam2012 said:
You are correct about not taking it to the house. I should have clarified they picked Duke up to be the Bills third down passing RB. I don't think the Bills need a home run passing running back. That would be a luxury and a bonus. Motor has proved to be very good with good Oline play. The offense will be fine as long as Allen stays healthy and the Oline blocks well.
I think Motor is a fully capable runner. He’ll never instill fear into the defense, but that’s okay. My post was in regards to what Beane covets - an offensive player who can take a 5 yard pass and turn it into a 60 yard TD. He said we don’t have that player on our roster and I said if he were added, I’d prefer it was to the RB room rather than at the glut of receivers. Hall could potentially not only take a 5 yard pass to the house, but also a run where Motor gets 15. TDs and explosive plays are not luxuries.
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34 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:
They got Duke Johnson for that.
What makes you think Duke Johnson is capable of being that player? He runs in the mid 4.5s, at least when he tested years ago at the combine, probably slower now. He also hasn’t had one play of over 55 yards in his entire NFL career. He’s not a threat to take it to the house every time he touches it.
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If the Bills select Hall, it’s because they believe he’s capable of catching a 5 yard pass and turning it into a 60 yard TD. They don’t currently have that player on the roster and Beane referenced needing that sort of talent. You can draft it at WR and add it to that group, but personally I’d rather have it at RB. He doesn’t have to carry it 25+ times a game.
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2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
They aren’t trading Edmunds.
Both are listed at 6’5”, but Edmunds is clearly taller than Josh in both pics.
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2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
It's McCargo for me. Why? Because it was the holy trinity:
1 - a trade up, giving up TWO day 2 picks for the right take him late in the 1st;
2 - a huge reach on an average prospect, awful talent evaluation;
3 - a bad strategic decision to waste all that resource on a non-premium position..... spending a 1st and trading up to do so on a run stuffing defensive tackle.
He started ONE game for the Bills in 5 seasons. Dreadful in every way.
Also scary the Bills wanted a DT that badly that they’d give up so much in a trade up when board/fan favorite Haloti Ngata was available earlier in the round. They inexplicably chose Donte Whitner at 8th overall I believe, talk about a comedy of errors. Ngata said years later he was sure he’d be a Buffalo Bill.
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Behind the scenes: Bills draft room
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Also pretty ridiculous the chart had it at a 4th and 6th rounder to move up 2 spots (with Bills losing 5 pts).
They didn’t maximize their value in those 2nd round trades, ended up losing points, but at least one of those 6s landed Araiza.