Joe Ferguson forever

Attorney client privilege survives death. Dershowitz may have violated ethics rules by writing this. Do clients fail too disclose things to their attorneys? How does he know there is no list? What he does call for is Maxwell's testimony in front of congress. That would satisfy some doubters. He knows that's not going to happen. He even doubts the case against the WSJ will go to court. He's suspected of participating in the Epstein travesty. Why should we believe him? It's reasonable to speculate his letter was part of a kabuki dance set up at Vance's Montana visit. Ar the Israaeli's expected to admit he was their agent? This smells very bad. Even you should admit that. https://dailycaller.com/2025/07/20/alan-dershowitz-donald-trump-wall-street-journal-report-epstein-malice/ “I’ll probably be called as a witness in the case, because they also called me, and they said that you wrote him a letter with a mock cover of Vanity Fair,” Dershowitz told Curanaj. “And I said, ‘I may have, I don’t remember, this was 23 years ago. Just send me a copy of the letter with my signature and I’ll tell you whether it’s authentic or not,’ and they said they couldn’t do it.” “And so they published the story without authenticating it with me, and that will be an important point in trying to prove malice, so I suspect I will be a witness if this case ever goes to trial,” Dershowitz continued. from politico “She knows everything,” Dershowitz said. “She is the Rosetta Stone. She knows everything. She arranged every single trip with everybody. She knows everything. And if she were just given use immunity, she could be compelled to testify. I’m told that she actually would be willing to testify. And there’d be no reason for her to withhold any information.” But he's wrong. She might want to withhold info based on a possible pardon.

Vance going secretly to meet the murdochs last month is verified. you think there's more to the story then him going on a hike in Montana? Do you think they're going to tell us? most importantly, why do you think the files aren't being released? ?

WE might. lots of folks won't and most of those will be his supporters.

Funny that he doesn't comment further on this after accusing us of laughing at the poor and uneducated. It's so very disturbing that they were so successfully exploited. Pointing that out is not disparaging them. It's pitying them. And they'll soon need much more than pity. B man is one of the few maga's here that I think has been honest about his occupation. Acting as a rural hospital administrator is generally a noble pursuit. So is working as a nurse.. And if these are true, he should have fairly extensive knowledge of what the Medicaid cuts will mean for these people and have abundant anxiety for them. But he's not sharing his knowledge other than saying that rural hospitals have been closing for 30 years. That's true but what happens next to them after the Medicaid cuts?

lying is the basis of maga. has been from the beginning. why should it be different here?

he's a molecular biologist don't you know.

did you read the mueller report.? did trump say those things? why did vance meet secretly with the murdoch's. amazing that conspiracies of potential benefit to maga's are so clear to you. but those threatening to maga are ignored.

maybe you should ask for comrade kay's take. you two seem close.

what's it telling you, chief? Show your smarts.

the silence is telling.

strange how a possible revelation gets pushed down the board. No one thinks this is ripe for further discussion?

much less crazy than pizza gate or so many of the cults conspiracies. why was Vance there? Why keep it secret? If Kamala had been shown to do something similar, would you ignore it? Let's say she went to the NYT secretly and they later published an embarrassing but not a kill shot story on Biden's memory loss. Would you be concerned? I don't know what the meeting was about or if there was a conspiracy. I''ll wait for further developments. Perhaps Murdoch will be paid back for the settlement with crypto. Let's see if the suit is settled. If it goes to court, that could be damaging to both parties. Stay tuned.

Huff post had the story in June with confirmation from a state auditor of Vance’s flight. Probably off the radar to most until the wsj article https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jd-vance-murdochs-fox-news_n_684ae6f1e4b0cf5f0c9b5db2

Hadn’t seen it. But the meeting is concerning to me. The x post states it’s not unusual for vp’s to meet with top media figures. Really? Maybe for interviews but not secretly. The timing suggests possible collaboration on the wsj story. If they settle the suit, the whole conspiracy theory seems more plausible. As u MAGAs have stated, the article was not as damaging to trump.as advertised. time will tell. If the wsj prints more damning stories, it’s probably untrue. If it’s the D’s fault, why not release it? That would add to the narrative that US government needs to be torn down and rrebuilt as trump is doing.

Here's the thing I think you're missing. Epstein could well have been mosaad or another Israeli intelligence agent. How did he get so wealthy, so quickly? How did he get a highly paid, highly competitive brokers job at Goldman Sachs with no degree? How did he come to know the influential Maxwells as a kid from Brooklyn? How did he get teaching job at a prestigious prep school with no college degree? If he were a foreign agent, his actions and that of his "friends" could change global alliances. They may well have... And if was not an agent, it's still a disgusting, shameful story, for him and anyone closely associated with him. worth a read. The article was republished in the Jerusalem post. https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/jeffrey-epstein-may-have-had-links-to-israeli-leaders-the-rolling-stone-674244 Wouldn't you like to know the truth? I would.

I stand corrected. mostly. they'll show up in the ER as a train wreck. Then they'll get admitted and end up not paying at all. cuz they can't But they'd probably survive.

I don't think it's funny at all. I'm sure the hospital you were /are affiliated with had a difficult time keeping the doors open. Mine did as well but we survived having a reasonable amount of commercially insured patients to counter a very large Medicaid population. making it worse by cutting Medicaid (which you must know, barely covers costs) will cause many more closures than if the bill didn't pass.

watch and wait. It is honest. there's multigenerational poverty in areas such as Vance grew up in. I don't give those people a pass for the most part. It's how they've always lived but they're not going to go to work even if anyone would hire them or there were jobs in those communities. And many are unable to fill out the forms necessary even if they can somehow go to work. In some of these places, small hospitals are the largest employers. And many will likely close. but no doubt, even after they're out of insulin and out of food, they'll vote R.

and his legacy is rightfully ruined for the left. trump still has his cult.

yup, they ate. And some can't read or write. It's amazing how prevalent illiteracy is in these areas. lack of education is a huge reason for MAGAs success. interesting that the maga elite don't mind killing them off.

nah, I like honest people. Do you wonder why I hate trump?

It's hard to be critical of people for inherited stupidity but some are just too stupid to abide. And believing in trump is costing them big. Medicaid cuts have gotten most of the press as they all be devastating to rural communities who overwhelming voted for trump. The SNAP cuts will also cause significant pain. I have sympathy for the poor rural folks that voted D. those that voted for trump are getting what they voted for. https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/19/trump-snap-food-cuts-rural-grocers-megabill-00463048 “I lean pretty heavily right most of the time, but one of the things that I do lean to the left on is we’re a pretty wealthy country, we can help people out,” said St. Johns, Arizona, Mayor Spence Udall, whose town overwhelmingly supportedTrump in 2024. “The businesses that will be affected most by this are the businesses that are most disadvantaged, that are struggling, and you’re going to find that in the rural markets,” he added. Udall’s community, which sits halfway between — but still far from — Phoenix and Albuquerque, has one grocery store and one local food bank serving over 3,500 people. If the store shutters due to the food aid cuts, the next closest option for groceries is roughly 30 miles away. dumb, dumb, dumb

biden didn't promise them. trump did. what's your point?

or maybe because he campaigned draining the swamp and promise to release the files with great fanfare....

details on the filing for the release of the grand jury testimony. The reasons: public interest and transparency. what a joke... https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/18/politics/video/doj-release-epstein-grand-jury-testimony-reid-lead-digvid