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13 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:
I liked the “no punt” game versus the 49ers
Particularly for a non-playoff game, this was a great game indeed. Also the NFL's Greatest Comeback (Houston-Bills) also has to be on the short list of greatest games. If you add Allen vs Mahomes, the Bills were involved in 3 of the greatest games of all time.
13 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:I remember thoroughly enjoying the Dolphins vs Chargers game years ago. Kellen Winslow was a folk hero after that game. I’d put that one up there as one of the best.
Besides the 1958 NFL Championship Game (Colts-Giants) the 1982 Divisional Round game (Chargers-Dolphins) is most often mentioned as a candidate for greatest game ever. In fact it's known as "The Epic in Miami."
"Winslow caught a playoff record 13 passes for 166 yards and a touchdown, while also blocking a field goal with seconds remaining to send the game to overtime in one of the greatest single player efforts in NFL history. Winslow's yardage total stood as the playoff record for tight ends for 30 years until Vernon Davis's 180 yards in 2012. What made Winslow's performance all the more memorable was that fact during the game he was treated for a pinched nerve in his shoulder, dehydration, severe cramps, and received three stitches in his lower lip. After the game, a picture of Winslow being helped off the field by his teammates became an enduring image in NFL lore."
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11 hours ago, ALLEN1QB said:
How terrible I used to live in South Florida a lot of the drivers down there did not even have a license or speak English very dangerous
That's interesting.
10 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:I wonder if the above is generic file footage or proximate to the actual accident scene.
7 hours ago, Neo said:I read it differently . A young man, struggling in life like so many of us, was lost under unrelated tragic circumstances. This, to me, is much more powerful and respectful than, say, “NFL QB”, or “former college star”. Dwayne Haskins’ story is try, succeed, try, fail, try …
No debate with you. Another perspective.
The problem with characterizing Haskins as "troubled" is because that claim is pretty arbitrary, subjective and arguably negative. Consider one could also write: "Haskins was a very accomplished young man who set both Big Ten and Ohio State records for passing yards, total offense, and touchdowns. He was named the MVP of the 2019 Rose Bowl as well as that year's Big Ten Championship game and was drafted 15th overall that year. At the time of his death Haskins was preparing to compete for the Steelers starting QB position."
5 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said:What I don’t understand is, even if the car was broken down, why would you attempted to cross it onto oncoming traffic? Wouldn’t you want to walk to the nearest exit? Parents? Friends? I don’t understand.
What makes you think he wasn't walking to the nearest exit?
And while you bring it up, is walking anywhere in that landscape a good idea versus waiting for LE and tow vehicles to arrive?
What did he have to gain by walking as opposed to simply waiting in as safe a place as he could find?
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3 hours ago, Rigotz said:
Running Backs drafted in the first round the last 14 years:
Najee Harris #24
Travis Etienne #25
Clyde Edwards-Helaire #32
Josh Jacobs #24
Saquon Barkley #2
Rashaad Penny #27
Leonard Fournette #4
Christian McCaffrey #8
Ezekiel Elliott #4
Trent Richardson #3
Doug Martin #31
David Wilson #32
Mark Ingram #28
CJ Spiller #9
Ryan Matthews #12
Jahvid Best #30
Knowshon Moreno #12
Donald Brown #27
Beanie Wells #31
14 years and I see maybe 3 players worth the pick.
It's horrible value to go after running backs in the first round and that has been proven time and again.
Interestingly the average draft position of the 19 players on this list is 17.11 but none of them were drafted between picks 12 and 24.
Of the 8 that were chosen at/before pick 12, the average draft position was 6.75. Those teams were shooting for an "elite" running back
Of the 11 that were chosen at/after pick 24. the average draft position was 28.3. Those teams were trying to nail the right value.
25 minutes ago, 716er said:Beane has already wasted two mid-round draft picks on running backs. Hope he does not do it again.
But this discussion is about high-round draft picks... 1st or 2nd round.
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15 hours ago, Rochesterfan said:
So is there anything to back this up or just your feeling?
The closest thing to that I have seen quantified - would be Vegas odds with a player injured or out for the season.
In an individual game - a safety missing the game would not really move the line at all. Other than QB and maybe a real special OT or DE - I am not sure any other position missing the season shifts a teams W/L total by a game.
I personally think if Poyer was moved and replaced by Johnson and Hamlin would be less than 1 point per game for the player - maybe 14 points on the season. It could result in an additional loss, but I doubt it would dent the overall win total Vegas puts out. It is just not an impact position.
I like Poyer and have no issues extending him for the right deal - if it saves us money this year and next, but I also do not think that trading him and getting something or letting him play out the contract is bad. I like what I have seen out of Hamlin and Johnson and wouldn’t mind seeing more, but with the task at hand - my preference is for Poyer and his family to shut up and win.
If I had something to back it up (like access to Poyer's WAR for instance... but I don't pay for that sort of stuff) I would have mentioned it.
As it is we're beginning to split hairs here. You theorize 14 points over the course of a season? A possible loss? Fair enough.
That is exactly the sort of calculus the Bills have to do here. Their valuation should be based on WAR and also the possibility that something like losing home field advantage could happen and what the worst-case scenario of that could be.
9 hours ago, SCBills said:
There may be a drop off, and that’s ok…Were talking about Safeties here. We can’t pay everyone.
Did our two safeties help us against KC when it mattered? Or against any other top notch offense… Indy & Ten come to mind…
We aren’t going to have All-Pros at every position. We also can’t pay every position.
We’d have zero problem extending Poyer and Edmunds, if we want to, had we not signed Von Miller. But Von Miller on a defense against KC in the Playoffs is a huge net positive for this unit even if you remove Poyer & Edmunds from the roster.
I really like Poyer as a person, a Bill, and a player… but I’d rather use his money elsewhere. Beane said we need to get faster in the Secondary… so far all we’ve done is let Levi walk. As good as Hyde & Poyer are, they aren’t burners either.
We vastly overrate some of these guys because our defense is built to suffocate middling QB’s/mediocre offenses. Sorry, but it’s true.
Investing in a guy like Von was a move to change that… and like other defenses who have game changers on it… you have to rely on cheap talent at other positions.
As discussed above, the possible drop-off may or may not be "ok."
Lots of people on our board are more than happy to take that risk in order to save Pegula from spending more of his money.
As you say, if the Bills can spend that money elsewhere and it has a better overall impact than spending that money on Poyer, then it's worth it.
However if people want to save the money just to have it handy for "someone else later," that's more questionable because in that scenario you're not using the money to improve the team.
And it's important to keep in mind that this is supposed to be a Super Bowl or bust season.
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10 hours ago, MAJBobby said:
The way I see it. Does the Bills win total projections change with Hamlin or Johnson as the other safety over Poyer? No with will not.
In the Ryan Bates thread I brought up WAR, Wins Above Replacement. I definitely think Poyer is worth at least one win more than Hamlin or Johnson.
9 hours ago, MAJBobby said:3 years 26M that is where I go. AAV is 8.6M That is a good contract for Poyer. Can make the first 2 years fully guaranteed. Anything more than that I would move on
And why would you pay him that much if he's no better than Hamlin or Johnson? As a GM you're always trying to pay for the "true value" of the player. If Poyer gets 3/26 that means he's a pretty good player.
9 hours ago, MAJBobby said:Dont care what he has already been paid. his value is no more than 9M AAV. I also do not care what Rachel has tweeted, she already said the reality and then deleted that tweet.
I agree that his current contract doesn't dictate his future one but I'm sure the infamous Miss Bush disagrees.
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4 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:
I think reducing the Bills perennial secondary success to scheme is an oversimplification. You still need good football players to have a good team. If it was as simple as playing a DB friendly scheme every team would have a good secondary.
1 hour ago, JustHewIt said:But are they good football players, or true All-Pros? They were castoffs before they came here. Good football players can be replaced with younger, cheaper good football players in a good scheme. All Pros can't be replaced. The latter gets paid no matter what.
Tre went out, our secondary soldiered on. If Josh/Diggs/Von went out (KNOCK ON WOOD.), would it go on at nearly the same level?1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:And they do. Find me a Cover 3 base coverage scheme over the last decade that has not had a good secondary?
I'm not saying that Poyer has to be re-signed at any and all costs.
I am saying that some here are dismissing his contributions to the team, as if he's a generic plug and play guy.
Poyer is a very good player and a respected veteran leader. If he departed before the 2022 season, it would undo a lot of the gains the team has made this offseason, both from a personnel and a morale standpoint.
It will be interesting to see how the team handles this somewhat sensitive situation.
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On 4/1/2022 at 4:26 AM, 1ManRaid said:
Lol this is hilarious. OP is just making a fool of themselves.
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22 hours ago, MAJBobby said:
Oliver, Edmunds SHOULD get extensions before Poyer in a very friendly Defense for DBs and Safeties
18 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:The Bills secondary play cannot simply be attributed solely to smoke and mirrors.
12 hours ago, MAJBobby said:Sure it can. Tell me How hard do you think it is for a player to be 15 yards off the Ball. With their eyes looking right at the QB. safety is easier to play than RB OG WLB and those are all very easy positions. Safety is the easiest position to play on a football field. Now add it into a Cover 3 DB friendly defenses. And You have two players that have been moved on from their other teams making all pros. Hyde is the glue back there I can get same production from any NFL safety next to Hyde. Doesn’t have to have the name Poyer or be paid 12M a year.
I think reducing the Bills perennial secondary success to scheme is an oversimplification. You still need good football players to have a good team. If it was as simple as playing a DB friendly scheme every team would have a good secondary.
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1 minute ago, Canadian Bills Fan said:
So I swore I would never be "that guy" but I heard that he has cancelled his appearance today for his charity and wont be doing anymore appearances for the time being
You heard this where?
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41 minutes ago, somnus00 said:
Why use one "y" when you can use two?
Gregg Williams agrees with you.
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3 hours ago, MAJBobby said:
Poyer and his entitled other will no longer be Bills in 2023 or before.
And that would b the RIGHT choice.
Oliver, Edmunds SHOULD get extensions before Poyer in a very friendly Defense for DBs and Safeties
It's a given that McFrazier are DB Whisperers and that somehow the the whole of the secondary is greater than the sum of its parts.
That said, someone has to be playing well in that secondary and propping up the others so it's either Dane Jackson and Levi Wallace were covering for the deficiencies of the safeties or visa versa.
The long held belief is that Hyde and Poyer are enabling the Bills CB (sans T White) to play above their talents. The Bills secondary play cannot simply be attributed solely to smoke and mirrors.
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46 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said:
From the article it sounds like Miller needs to play on the left side of the formation, going against the RT. Sounds like where he’s most comfortable. Bills need a RDE to step up, I’m not sure if Groot has the skill set to consistently win against LTs.
What hasn't been mentioned yet is that Buscaglia suggests that the Bills should entertain re-signing Jerry Hughes to play at his customary RDE position. Buscaglia reasons that the present candidates... Greg Rousseau who has almost never lined up at RDE in college or pros, Shaq Lawson, AJ Epenesa, and Boogie Basham, don't inspire confidence.
In Buscaglia's documented view, Von Miller is substantially more effective lining up at LDE, and therefore bringing Jerry Hughes back to play his familiar RDE position could be the cherry on top of a revamped Bills pass rush.
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9 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:
McDermott should have simply said this:
"I want to make it clear that I bear complete and total responsibility for the communication breakdowns at the end of regulation and in overtime. It doesn't matter exactly what happened and I'm not gonna get into exactly what happened. What I will say is that what happened is entirely my fault and I will take the steps necessary to ensure these mistakes never happen again."
24 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:I honestly think that people should look again at what he did say. Because he said "I don't want to get into specifics, but we can execute better and that starts with me."
I don't get this obsessive need for some sort of self flagellation in order to satisfy a lust for what I call the social media version of accountability.
I disagree Bill.
iMO McDermott was not emphatic enough and he was not unequivocal enough.
That was more noticeable from the video... if you read the words they had a different effect than actually hearing them spoken.
His mea culpa (thanks K-9!) was unsatisfying, like an insincere apology and that's why many fans and media felt it was insufficient.
And more importantly what did the players and coaches feel about his comments? The leadership aspect is the most concerning thing about his post mortem (thanks K-9!).
Part of it is McDermott's limitations as a speaker... he could have said more in fewer words and in less time. And the team would likely respond better to a more effective message than the passive finger pointing that was implied.
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26 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:
I think he goes late one. He is just so good. And he isn’t weak, he plays with leverage and holds his own against bigger guys. Massive guys like Marquan McCall gave him issues.I just watched 10 minutes of his game video.
I expected him to be solid at the point of attack and he was but I was surprised with his athleticism. He had zero problems with reach blocks and working at the second level. He was effective with seal blocks, in combination, basically polished in every aspect of O-line play. He plays like a guy who understands the theory and objective behind every play.
That said the whole Iowa line looked so polished and professional so that made it a bit more difficult evaluating him. Looks like a damn fine player though.
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12 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:
I think he goes late one. He is just so good. And he isn’t weak, he plays with leverage and holds his own against bigger guys. Massive guys like Marquan McCall gave him issues.Yeah I understand about the leverage and the wrestling background, biomechanics, etc.
I'd still be concerned about his size especially in the context of NFL talent.
It's not a perfect comparison but Jim Ritcher was a smallish center who excelled for the Bills for many years. He was legendarily strong in the weight room but going up against Jumpy Geathers in the Super Bowl was Exhibit A on why O-linemen need to be big guys.
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On 3/24/2022 at 10:54 AM, Tom Donahoe, GM said:
Why be a gunner king when you can be a gunner god
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king!
On 3/24/2022 at 6:38 PM, purple haze said:Complaining just to complain is tiresome.
Geez Haze, complaining again?
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43 minutes ago, Motor26 said:
Moss was literally a power running back who ran with no power last season.That's true but isn't it possible that Moss regains his mojo in the same way that Singletary did last year?
In fact if given a fair chance to compete for playing time isn't it at least a 50/50 proposition that he does rebound?
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1 hour ago, Sierra Foothills said:
Is it not a bit odd that the Bills have not spoken with Tyler Linderbaum?
He's the consensus best C in this draft.
38 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:It could be that they are hiding their interest, or maybe they aren’t interested. Linderbaum can play guard but doesn’t have the same level versatility as those other guys. 🤷♂️
The other somewhat bizarre thing about Linderbaum is that he maintains his consensus position as the top center in the draft and yet he measures only 6'2" 296 pounds with 31.125" long arms. Is the team that drafts him not supposed to be concerned about that?
In fact isn't he a possibility to slide down the draft?
And if he's there at 25 do the Bills consider him?
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On 3/31/2022 at 10:24 AM, SoTier said:
In 20 drafts between 2000 and 2019, 5 guards were taken in the top 10 and 1 was drafted to be an OT. 2 were Pro Bowl and All Pro caliber. In 20 drafts between 2000 and 2019, 11 guards were taken between #21-#32. 5 were Pro Bowlers and 2 were All Pros. The bottom of the first round frequently does yield stud guards.
Guards taken in the first round since 2000:
- 2001 - 17 - Steve Hutchinson - 7 PBs, 5 All Pros
- 2002 - 20 - Kendall Simmons
- 2004 - 19 - Vernon Carey - started 107 games for Miami between 2004 and 2011
- 2005 - 32 - Logan Mankins - 7 PBs, 1 All Pro
- 2006 - 23 - Davin Joseph - 2 PBs
- 2007 - 29 - Ben Grubbs - 2 PBs
- 2008 - 15 - Branden Albert - converted to LT, made 2 PBs at LT
- 2010 - 17 - Mike Iupati - 4 PBs, 1 All Pro
- 2011 - 15 - Mike Pouncey - 4 PBs
- 2011 - 23 - Danny Watkins
- 2012 - 24 - Dave DeCastro - 6 PBs, 2 All Pros
- 2012 - 27 - Kevin Zeitler - started 151 games between 2012 and 2021
- 2013 - 7 - Jonathan Cooper
- 2013 - 10 - Chance Warmack
- 2013 - 20 - Kyle Long - 3 PBs
- 2015 - 5 - Brandon Scherff - 5 PBs, 1 All Pro
- 2015 - 9 - Ereck Flowers - converted to OT and then went back to G
- 2015 - 28 - Laken Tomlinson - 1 PB
- 2016 - 28 - Joshua Garnett
- 2016 - 31 - Germain Ifedi
- 2018 - 6 - Quenton Nelson - 4 PBs, 3 All Pros
- 2018 - 23 - Isaiah Wynn, starter in NE
- 2019 - 14 - Chris Lindstrom, starter in ATL
On 4/1/2022 at 2:14 PM, Bill from NYC said:I believe that drafting a first round guard is not a good move in almost every case. But, if a GM really does believe that there is a Larry Allen type HOF guard out there, drafting him in round 1 would be a wise move, especially on a team (like the 2008 Bills mind you) that has a critical shortage of good blockers.
Three thoughts on the topic.
1) In this day of advanced statistics/metrics there is a unit of measure referred to as WAR (wins above replacement). This is the idea that you can measure how many more (or less) wins a given team would have if an "average" player was replaced by another player. I think if it was possible to compute this concept accurately that it would show that someone like Joe Thuney would be worth maybe one more win than a player like Ryan Bates. JMO.
2) I agree with those who say that even the greatest guards have less value than many would think. For example I think of Logan Mankins as one of the greatest guards I ever saw play. He was a 6 time All Pro, 7 time Pro Bowler and a member of the All Decade team. He'll likely end up in the Hall of Fame.
And yet, despite the fact that he played for the Cheatriots*** for 10 years, he never won a Super Bowl. New England won Super Bowls in 2004, the year before he was drafted and in 2015, the year after he was released. They never won a Super Bowl with the greatest guard in team history, a future Hall of Famer.
3) It'd be one thing if you were guaranteed of drafting a Steve Hutchinson, Alan Faneca, Logan Mankins, Quentin Nelson, etc but there is no guarantee. You're just as likely to draft a Chance Warmack or Jonathan Cooper who btw were both considered "can't miss" players.
No on drafting a guard in the first round unless it's at the end of the first round and all of the top players are off the board.
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On 4/2/2022 at 8:22 PM, CapeBreton said:I honestly worry about the Bills RB evaluation process. Hard to believe they were this high on Moss in the 2020 draft. Can’t wait to see what they do at this year’s draft to upgrade the RB room.On 4/2/2022 at 8:24 PM, Magnum Force said:
For sure
On 4/2/2022 at 8:36 PM, JaCrispy said:In addition to their RB evaluation, I also worry about the Bills’ OG and DL evaluation...they’ve missed hard, so far, with top picks at those positions...
I would argue that Singletary was over drafted...based on his minimum production and lack of athleticism, it’s hard to see why he was drafted higher than the fifth round- and even that is being generous, if I’m being honest...
On 4/2/2022 at 9:17 PM, Magnum Force said:Agreed
Last year at this time people were calling Singletary a disappointment. Then he had a bounce back year and now people are singing a different tune.
Last year was Moss' 2nd year. It's way too early to make a pronouncement on his career. I liked Moss before he was drafted and was glad we drafted him. He has a nice physical style which I thought the team needed. He was a good pass blocker and showed good hands as a receiver.
I think people need to dial down the criticism a bit because stranger things have happened than a 3rd rounder having a bounce back season.
This is not to say that we couldn't use a dynamic playmaker at RB... just that people shouldn't get too high on their own abilities to predict a player's career curve.
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Regarding McDermott, as the stakes are raised, the scrutiny increases. As the scrutiny increases it's inevitable that flaws become more apparent.
That said, I feel McDermott is definitely a Top 5 coach and I'm glad he's our coach.
Unfortunately the worst moment of his Bills' tenure was after the debacle in Kansas City. I thought he handled it poorly with the vague comments about "execution." It came off as blame shifting.
McDermott should have simply said this:
"I want to make it clear that I bear complete and total responsibility for the communication breakdowns at the end of regulation and in overtime. It doesn't matter exactly what happened and I'm not gonna get into exactly what happened. What I will say is that what happened is entirely my fault and I will take the steps necessary to ensure these mistakes never happen again."
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On 3/9/2022 at 8:09 AM, JayBaller10 said:
Great to see so many interior OL players though.
On 3/9/2022 at 9:22 AM, DrDawkinstein said:I re-sorted by position and quantity. Not surprising, C/G and CB lead the way, with WR not too far behind. And DT getting a little love too.
Cam Jurgens - C/G Nebraska
Logan Bruss - C/G Wisconsin
Zion Johnson - C/G Boston College
Lecitus Smith - G Virginia Tech
Dohnovan West - C/G Arizona State
Kenyon Green - C/G Texas A&MOn 3/9/2022 at 10:46 AM, Rockinon said:Lot of C/G in that list.
Is it not a bit odd that the Bills have not spoken with Tyler Linderbaum?
He's the consensus best C in this draft.
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From the linked article:
1 Belichick
2 Reid
3 McVay
4 Harbaugh
5 McDermott
6 Tomlin
7 Shanahan
8 LaFleur
9 Vrabel
10 Reich
11 Carroll
12 Taylor
13 Stefanski
14 Staley
My first thought is that it's awfully hard to split a team's success between the coach and the GM. They're either successful together or unsuccessful together. It's hard to think of an example of where you think "the coach is doing a great job but the GM sucks" or visa versa.
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15 minutes ago, TBBills said:
People treating Gilmore like he raped or beat a woman.
I had forgotten about that.
List of draft players Bills have met with
in The Stadium Wall
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Maybe but I'd rather take a guy who's good one on one and try to convert him to zone than visa versa. And I love Booth.
First of all thank you for updating the list. Also it sure seems that the visits by position reflect what all of us believe are the Bills' biggest needs.
Have you watched any of the video on Booth or have you only read about him?
Well, that's interesting.