Sierra Foothills
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7 hours ago, Magox said:
Some people are writing off Keon Coleman before training camp. 🙃
Kollman is slow to write-off Coleman.
7 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:Zero people are doing that.
Plenty of people here are predicting his selection was a mistake. They might not be writing him off but they're predicting that he'll bust.
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On 6/13/2024 at 2:27 PM, Rigotz said:
Happy he got his degree, but I feel like Lawyer's mom won't rest until passes the bar exam.
She made it pretty clear with the name.
Yep. And his former New England teammate Ty Law needs to get his JD too. Then they can become partners again... The Lawyer and Law Firm.
On 6/13/2024 at 3:50 PM, JerseyBills said:Him coming out as a Bill in week 1 vs NE was awesome
Yeah it was but the last game of that season against New England... ouch.
On 6/14/2024 at 3:46 AM, transient said:He’s 50 yrs old… not saying it’s impossible, but if that was the message he might consider changing his name to Bachelor Milloy.
LMFAO.
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Just now, GoBills808 said:
😂😂'negative value judgement'
Knock yourselves out
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5 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
Who said they shouldnt
You said "it's a waste of time pining after another team's punter."
When you make a negative value judgement about an activity it implies that the individual shouldn't be doing it.
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10 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:
Well we better pick someone up because reports are Bass looks worse than ever.
There are several people who have posted in this topic that have claimed that "once a kicker allows self-doubt to creep into his game, that it's all over."
My subjective recall from having watched football for decades is that the above assertion is not true.
There are kickers who have gone through slumps who have persevered and elevated their games, and gone on to long and successful careers.
Each case is different and I'm hopeful that Bass will rebound.
I do wish however that the Bills bring in another kicker to compete with him.
I've never believed in the coddling/insulating "protect his fragile psyche" approach to improving player performance.
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3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
😂😂😂What a massive ***** waste of time pining after another team's punter
Is it more of a waste of time than telling people that they shouldn't?
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On 6/14/2024 at 4:02 PM, QCity said:
"To get his ’06 Indianapolis Colts over the hump, Hall of Fame GM Bill Polian told us he started to weigh playoff performance on a critical curve. Beane is doing the same"
Another reason why Diggs was moved.
Yes, this is the above bullet point that jumped off the page at me.
19 hours ago, Billy Claude said:It is a shock these days when people act like reasonable adults instead of spiteful teenagers. I am glad that we appear to have reasonable people here.
I actually wasn't bothered by the article very much. How many head coaches are not micromanagers and control freaks? The last one the Bills had that wasn't was Rex Ryan and that was not a good experience. The 911 analogy may not be the most appropriate but it was just a one time mistake and Daboll does not appear to be the easiest guy to get along with.
The only story in the Dunne article that bothered me was that McDermott was upset about the players buying the WR coach a car.
I agree with the bolded.
I understand those that are a bit bothered by Beane allowing access to Dunne.
What I don't understand are the handful of people here who have stated that they would deny Dunne access... that are more upset with Dunne than the Bills are...
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2 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:
What did he do to hurt the team in Green Bay? He was paid more than Brady so he ate up a bit more cap space. That's all I recall. But just like you I'm a casual fan of the Packers and only followed from afar.
He got some of his former teammates to join him in NYC. Never heard he wasn't a good teammate.
Now don't get me wrong. The guy has a string of failed relationships from family to girlfriends and his conspiracy crap is grotesque.
But commitment to winning doesn't seem to be one of his flaws.
One thing I seem to recall is that unlike most QBs, Rodgers had very poor attendance for most OTAs.
Typically your QB is "all-in" and sets the bar for attendance at voluntary activities because he is the highest-paid player on the team and the tone-setter.
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6 hours ago, Doc said:
I'm saying that even if the NFL could have done something about it, they likely wouldn't have. Not worth the bad publicity.
I understand fully what you're saying Doc.
I'm just lamenting that the NFL bows to the god of PR instead of justice (due process, innocent until proven guilty).
6 hours ago, Beck Water said:My goodness, for a chap who led off with "Firstly I do not wish to debate on this" you sure are rolling along.
I've contributed what was said about it at the time, believe it or don't
For the sake of clarity and not argument, it's not that I don't believe or disagree with you.
It's that I believe that the NFL Personal Conduct Policy (in-and-of itself) is poorly-written and inconsistently applied.
6 hours ago, Rochesterfan said:It was discussed at the time of the event - everything that happened was occurred before Matt became a part of the league and the NFL was not allowed to punish him for conduct prior to becoming an NFL player. If he was convicted after becoming an NFL player they could enact punishment based on the findings, but the NFL was not able to put him on the restricted list for college issues. This goes back to the Reggie Bush days when the league looked at punishing him and Pete Carroll for transgressions at USC and the NFLPA argued they could not punish them because they were not part of the NFL.
Therefore there were no options for the Bills in that regard based upon the reports.
Would the contract have been onerous- I don’t know, but as the Bills had no option to place him on any list what do you suggest they do. - should the Bills have kept him on the 53 man roster and not dressed him? That was 1 option and can you imagine the distraction with questions every week that would cause.
The other option was to cut him - which based upon allowing him to focus on the trial and not being a distraction was the obvious choice.
I just do not understand what you wanted them to do. The Bills were screwed with either choice because they could not trot him out to punt with the allegations hanging over him. Keeping him on the 53 man roster and not playing him for nearly 2 years also was not an option as spots are precious and fans already complain about the fringe guys that the Bills cut (see every WR/RB cut after a decent preseason against 5th stringers). Now imagine you are cutting an additional player to keep a punter that is not going to play - it just is not worth it.
Unfortunately based upon the options available the Bills took the one that covered their butt the best, freed Matt to focus on what he needed to, and created the least questions, distractions, and problems for the team.
I appreciate and understand your clear explanation... particularly citing the Reggie Bush case.
Thank you.
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4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
It has been definitively stated both by Terry Pegula and by Brandon Beane himself. Brandon has control of the 53 and personnel. Sean has control of the gameday actives / inactives and the coaches. The Bills are extremely collaborative. They let McDermott handpick his GM because they wanted the two to co-exist harmoniously after years of Whaley - Marrone and Whaley - Ryan strife. So Sean isn't mandating players. That isn't how it works, but would Brandon Beane ever do a Whaley and make a big move in the draft that his coach is so unhappy with he storms outta the room? No.
The people who think it isn't clear are the people who want to believe that everything they don't like is Sean McDermott's fault. It is very clear, the Bills have stated it publicly and those of us who know people who are or have been in the building confirm they operate it true to their word. Brandon Beane runs personnel. He identifies the free agents and he makes the draft picks. But the coaches input into that process and he listens to input. The final decision is always his.
Fair enough. I haven't seen those proclamations but I trust your knowledge of the situation.
But if McDermott said "Ed Oliver" and Beane said "Christian Wilkins", who's gonna get their way?
You may treat it as a rhetorical question if you wish.
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Vontae Davis' name has come up a few times in this thread.
He died just a few months ago... still no cause of death released.
Not long ago he did an ad for FanDuel... cashing in on his infamous retirement:
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On 6/11/2024 at 10:27 AM, thenorthremembers said:
The author of the article needs to slow down and not misspell so many words. The editor of the site, if there is one, needs to do their job.
On 6/12/2024 at 5:36 AM, Snappysnackcakes said:Seriously, WTH with the grammar and misspellings? Does a 3rd grader have a summer internship with SI?
On 6/12/2024 at 5:49 AM, Maynard said:I thought I was having a stroke when reading that. Letters left out or switched around……
On 6/13/2024 at 6:14 AM, Freddie's Dead said:The spelling and grammar mistakes in this article were jarring. No excuse in these days of spell check and autocorrect. It's your *****in' job, fer cryin' out loud!!
The spelling and grammar everywhere are jarring. I'm not convinced that there's enough editing going on at the Buffalo News or the Rochester D&C. And ProFootballTalk has a very low standard for spelling and grammar... shameful for an enterprise that makes as much money as they do. Florio's no better than many of the corporations he rails against.
On 6/12/2024 at 5:39 AM, Breakout Squad said:That article has so many spelling mistakes it’s obvious it’s just an AI article. Makes the local newspaper look good.
Actually AI-generated stuff is very excellent with spelling.
AI is used in the medical and legal fields and media outlets should make more use of it in order to better edit their products.
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1 minute ago, Beck Water said:
That's because you need to look at the initial language in the CBA framing the applicability.
I'll believe it when I see it.
And why would the "NFL Personal Conduct Policy" not cite or repeat verbatim the applicable sections of the CBA if they directly apply to this policy?
Where I work we have governing documents with the US Dept of Labor, the EEOC, the state Department of Industrial Relations, the CBA, and our state and local standards.
I just don't believe it's anything but arbitrary, Beck Water.
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12 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
It would NOT be applicable to the Araiza case. This was discussed and clarified at the time.
Here's the problem: the NFLPA/NFL CBA specifically PROHIBITS the NFL from disciplining a player for actions that took place prior to his joining the NFL. Once a player signs a contract, the NFL personal conduct policy applies.
Once a player participates in the pre-draft process (Senior Bowl, Combine, Team Visits etc) it's a grey area - there may be some documents the player signs.
But while the player is in college, before he signs a contract and before the pre-draft process, it's unambiguous: the NFL can NOT discipline the player, including placing him on the "Commissioner's Exempt List" aka "Paid Administrative Leave" aka "Leave With Pay"
The NFL was very clear with the Bills that they would NOT place Araiza on the commissioner's exempt list and grant the Bills a roster exemption for him, unless he were criminally charged (which would be considered to have occurred during his employment with the NFL, even for actions that took place earlier)
Again, this was all discussed at the time.I remember it was discussed and it's very "convenient" for the NFL to take this position... even though there's nothing in the actual language which punctuates when the rules are applied relative to when the alleged incidents take place.
And that relates to my earlier objections to Goodell's handling of the Araiza case (and his running of the league in general)... that the NFL arbitrarily applies its rules for its own convenience.
This is further supported by your statement that (paraphrasing) "the league would not grant the Bills a roster exemption unless he were criminally charged."
There's nothing in the language delineating this position.
In fact further indicting the NFL's arbitrary and inconsistent rules is the one that does exist that states "But even if the conduct does not result in a criminal conviction, players found to have engaged in any of the following conduct will be subject to discipline."
Make sense? I don't think so.
Then look at their recent sanction's against Atlanta for tampering... in the context of previous tampering cases. The tampering case is just one of dozens of examples of the NFL not being consistent in their rulings.
Believe what you'd like but I'm done here.
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27 minutes ago, Doc said:
Even though I supported him from the moment the truth started coming out, I can't object to the way the Bills and NFL handled it. They're under no obligation to employ, much less pay almost $1M to, a guy who is facing serious charges, much less a guy who has never played in a real NFL game before, much much less a guy who is just a punter. It sucks for Araiza and for the Bills losing possibly a promising player, but it is what it is.
On the other hand, had the NFL adhered to the principals of due process and "innocent until proven guilty" (by placing him on administrative leave) it could have ultimately been a win-win-win for the NFL, the Bills, and Araiza.
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On 6/14/2024 at 10:28 AM, Putin said:
I wonder what mrags got to say about this he obviously watched more tape
I actually know @mrags outside of this board... we talked the other day.
He said that Kollman is so slow that in broadcasting school (Cal State-Fullerton) it took him 8 years to finish his 4 year degree.
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33 minutes ago, Doc said:
Given the nature of the allegations and the outrage they elicited, I doubt the NFL would have done this for the Bills or any team for that matter. They would rather he be cut and out of the NFL until the matter was resolved one way or another.
That may have been the case and if so, it's disappointing (if not surprising) that the NFL would rush to judgment and bow to public outrage, instead of adhering to due process and showing proper professional restraint.
That said, there is much to object to regarding how the NFL is run.
Personally I think Goodell is a POS but as long as the Owners are happy with him...
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On 6/13/2024 at 7:22 AM, Chaos said:
I can't give an A in the current poll, because it ignores one of the critical elements of team building, coaching.
On 6/13/2024 at 7:25 AM, NoHuddleKelly12 said:The issue I respectfully have with your proposed fix, is that it places fault for any coaching failures on the GM’s doorstep as well, and that’s a bridge too far imho. Note: it says “put us in a position to…”; he has no part of actual game day coaching decisions over his roster. I think we can agree that the quality he’s put out there under the right circumstances is more than capable of deep playoff runs, yes?
On 6/13/2024 at 2:00 PM, Chaos said:If the Bills organization does not trust him with the head coaching decison, he can’t be considered a top GM, only a top player personnel manager. The top GMs are given control over the organization.
Understood that some NFL clubs have adopted a structure whereby the GM/Head Coach jobs are not hierarchical but instead, equal.
We don't really know who has final say over players or coaching hires do we? It has never been definitively stated, correct?
We do know that McDermott was hired 4 months earlier than Beane and based on that it's my opinion that McDermott has more authority within the Bills than does Beane. As I stated, JMO.
I'd love to know which decisions they differed on over the years and who prevailed in these cases. It's also interesting for me to contemplate who would win if it ever came down to a power struggle between the two... though I think they'll rise or sink together.
1 hour ago, section122 said:My biggest complaint is beane has missed on true difference makers. Studs that can be game wreckers. Take a look at all pros and pro bowls for super bowl teams compared to the bills the last few years.
Chiefs had 3 first team all pros and 49ers had 7 total 5 1st and 2 2nd teamers. The Bills had 1 on the 2nd team.
Year before chiefs had 6 eagles had 6 and Bills had 2.
Year before rams 3 bengals 1 and bills 2.
The depth on the Bills has been really good. The lack of top end talent imo is why they haven't been able to take the next step.
To the bolded I agree 100%.
But again this is muddled because as far as I know, no one outside of OneBills Drive knows for sure who has final authority on the major player moves.
It's easy for me to think that McDermott relinquishes control over mid to late round picks and mundane free agent acquisitions.
Conversely it's impossible for me to believe that McDermott didn't mandate the drafting of Tre White, Ed Oliver, Greg Rousseau and even players like AJ Epenesa, Boogie Basham, Cole Bishop and Terrell Bernard. I feel very comfortable believing that those picks have McDermott's fingerprints all over them.
So this dynamic between HC and GM makes an evaluation of Beane's work more difficult.
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5 hours ago, Rochesterfan said:
I think you were roasted because “administrative leave” is not a thing. The Bills could not do what you suggested as it is not an option.The only leave would be if the NFL put him on leave and the NFL was not allowed to do that because the transgression occurred in college not the NFL.
Therefore - the Bills had very limited options. Cut him, Keep him on the roster, or work with the player and the NFLPA to get him on a reserved non-football list - which based upon the timing would have blocked him out for the season and would have left the NFL money on the table in the lawsuit.
In the end he sat out the 2 years while the various lawsuits fell away and without the NFL contract in place there was not a lot of money for the others lawyer to go after. The understanding at the time was the Bills (Beane) talked with the player and the agent about the options they had - either cutting him or getting the player to step away so they could use the Reserve list and keep him away for the year.
The agreement between the sides was for him to go away and handle the lawsuits and keep the other lawyers from using his contract as a bargaining chip.
The problem with your suggestion is that there is nothing like what you suggested that the Bills could do. They explored options and talked with the NFL, the player and his agent, and the NFLPA and had limited options of either keeping him on the roster or cutting him. Really a no brainer at that point with that team.
Firstly I do not wish to debate on this. I will simply point out this document:
According to the document the NFL can place a player on "Leave With Pay" later referred to as "Paid Administrative Leave."
Yes, the club cannot perform this action, it has to come from the NFL HOWEVER, did the Bills request the league to do so?
Based on the conditions, it seems that this would be applicable to the Araiza case.
As far as his contract, he signed a 4 year , $3,876,148 contract with the Buffalo Bills, including $216,148 signing bonus, $216,148 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $969,037.
Seems like it wouldn't have been onerous to carry this contract and let the justice system play out.
That's all I got.
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Some kicker named Andre Szmyt actually went 19-21 for 90.5% and had a long FG of 61 yards.
He played collegiately at Syracuse where he won the Groza Award and the Vlade Award (most accurate placekicker). He was signed as a free agent last August by the Bears but didn't stick.
Incidentally the Lions tried out both Bates and Szymt and chose to sign Bates.
Never seen him play, only reporting what I've read about him.
Other UFL kicker stats: https://www.theufl.com/stats/player
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7 minutes ago, GolfandBills said:
Too bad the Bills went into guilty until proven innocent mode which seems to be the new cool thing to do
At the time the allegations against Araiza came to light, I made the suggestion (here) that the Bills place him on administrative leave.
I was roasted for that take.
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"Matt Araiza, the strong-legged punter whose career was derailed by a sexual assault accusation, appears poised to win the Chiefs’ punting job for the 2024 season.
The Chiefs cut punter Ryan Rehkow, which leaves Araiza as the only punter on their roster. It’s still possible that the Chiefs could bring in another punter to compete with Araiza, but it looks like Araiza is going to be the Chiefs’ punter when the regular season starts.
Araiza won the Bills’ punting job as a rookie in 2022, but when news surfaced that he had been accused in a lawsuit of gang rape while he was in college, the Bills cut him and he was out of the NFL for more than a year. Araiza was never criminally charged, and the accuser later dropped her lawsuit.
At San Diego State, Araiza was widely regarded as the best punter in college football, winning the Ray Guy Award and setting a new NCAA record by averaging 51.2 yards per punt. Araiza also handled kickoffs and field goals in college.
With the off-field issue that ended his tenure in Buffalo behind him, Araiza now has an opportunity to show what he can do in the NFL. If he’s as good as he was in college, he should be one of the best punters in football this season."
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https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/jake-bates-will-sign-with-the-lions
"UFL kicker Jake Bates won’t have too travel far for his next job. Bates, who spent the 2024 spring season with the Michigan Panthers, will sign next week with the Detroit Lions, per multiple reports."
"All three of his 60-plus kicks were made at the (indoor) stadium where the Lions play their home games."
"For the year, he made only 17 of 22 field goals, an average success rate of 77.3 percent."
"The Lions currently have two kickers on the roster — Michael Badgley and James Turner."
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8 hours ago, Slippery Rubber Mats said:
Yip Trundleberry, where the term "yips" began. World class in darts, 1930's or so. Couldn't come close to the board, hit several bystanders in big tournaments. Dies of a massive stroke brought on from all the drugs he turned to. Hopefully Bass gets it together before he suffers the same fate.
Yip Trundlebarry.
Rodgers not at mandatory minicamp
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You forgot Offensive Coordinator!
They might not have a choice...