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    OT: Are you concerned about Mac Jones?

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    51 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

    PFF has Mac Jones graded as the #1 QB in the NFL against zone coverage at 91.3 overall.

     

    To say this should be a major concern against Frazier and McD's defense is an understatement.

     

    I'm utterly mystified how this guy can be so good and the Pats apparently didn't need to wait until the 6th round this time to find another Brady.

    So forget the hall of fame.. according to you, he is already Tom Brady?  Mac Jones will quarterback his teams to seven Super Bowls in his career?  You’re bypassing the guy being an all pro, winning an MVP or two.. instead of that you are going straight to the greatest of all time?  The hyperbole is as thick as John Carpenter’s The Fog.

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    OT: Are you concerned about Mac Jones?

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    40 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

    Yes.  

     

    After all the Brady non-sense the anti-Christ Belichek lucks out with Mac Jones dropping to him.

     

    I am starting to that Mac Jones and that arrogant smirk.

    He talks like a programmed robot void of any personality whatsoever.  Belichick probably just sat him down and said “you are going to say one of five things to the media no matter what they ask you, and here’s what they are.”  
     

    I’ve heard some people ask if the Pats can win a SB with Jones.  The answer is a resounding yes.  I have seen Denver win a SB with Peyton Manning who was a complete shell of himself.  The defense was both the offense & defense on that team.  Now.. that was obviously a furious defense that didn’t even allow opposing teams to run an offense.  
     

    To sum this up I said it before and I’ll say it again.. others have already mentioned it:  Let’s not be prisoners of the moment.  The kid is a rookie who happens to be performing well thus far.  No more, no less.  Let’s not put him in the hall of fame just yet.

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    Colts @ Bills — Uniform reveal

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    4 hours ago, Logic said:

    I wonder what game they'll be rolling out the all-reds for.

    I miss the red helmets.  If the wear the white jerseys they should wear blue bottoms and vice versa.  It just seems a lot more pleasant to the eye imo.  
     

    The all white uni’s complete with the white helmet just seems over the top to me.  Who are we?  The ghosts? 
     

     

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    OT: Are you concerned about Mac Jones?

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    54 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said:

    Cassell and Garropolo are two perfect examples.  Belichick got the most out of both of these qbs while they were in in New England.  I am not saying they excelled elsewhere.

     

    Garrapolo did take the 49ers to the Superbowl howeve, that is really off point.

     

    Just expressing my opinion

     

     

    Well Matt Cassel did take the Chiefs to the playoffs one year and that had nothing to do with Bill.  Garropolo also has talent but he is fragile and inconsistent.  Both of these QBs are not exactly straight up bums.  They do have some talent.  Bill didn’t really change any of that.  He had Bledsoe in New England and all the papers were calling for his head his second season in.  I think the Pats went like 5-11 and were 0-2 when Brady stepped in so Belichick was already on the hot seat.  How quickly people forget.  It’s almost as though we just eliminate anything that Belichick did before Brady including his forgettable stint with Cleveland.  People tend to forget that as a head coach, Bill accomplished absolutely nothing before Brady.  His winning percentage as head coach was well below .500

     

    Yet he’s better than Vince Lombardi, Bill Walsh, Tom Landry, Joe Gibbs and Bill Parcells?  

    OT: Are you concerned about Mac Jones?

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    5 hours ago, longtimebillsfan said:

    Bill Belichick is a master at putting quarterbacks in the best position to succeed.   This reminds me of how he used Brady early in his career.  

     

    I am more worried about Belichick.

    Well to be fair, Brady has masked a lot of Bill’s mistakes over the years.  What QB has Belichick succeeded with other than with Tom?  Garropolo is made of glass, Bledsoe was about to get Bill fired before Brady stepped in and what did Bill do with Testaverde?  Nothing.  Belichick is a master… as long as Brady is his QB or if Parcells is the head coach.

    I hate to say it … but the Pats are coming

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    15 minutes ago, Putin said:

    Just imagine what kind of numbers Mac Jones would have put out if he was on that 2018 Bills roaster ,  MVP and probably won a SB  !!!
    Hopefully the patriots****** will spend some money this free agency and get the kid some help 

    People like to be prisoners of the moment.  Some things never change.  

    OT: Are you concerned about Mac Jones?

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    On 9/22/2021 at 10:52 AM, Success said:

    Not sure if this is appropriate for this forum, but I was curious what other Bills fans were thinking up to this point.  It's hard for me to put in perspective because I have such a psychosis when it comes to the Pats. I was worried about Jimmy G, and even Stidham.

     

    But the Mac hype is officially through the roof. When I'm on general NFL boards or twitter, it seems to be accepted that he is "the best of all the rookie QB's so far," and Pats fans think they got the steal of the draft.

     

    Being obsessive about these things, I watched all of the passes from their 1st 2 games. There is no doubt he is accurate, and seems poised in the pocket.  The main thing I saw was more related to coaching - they really set the plays up for him to succeed.  He takes almost no risks at all.  Most passes are short outs or check downs (not disparaging those things, because they can be effective).   I saw nothing that made me think he could do what around 20 or so current QB's could do w/ that same coaching and in that system.

     

    Which, of course, reminds me of Brady's early years. Brady transcended that and became a guy who could take over games and lead big comebacks.  I can't help but ask, was that because he was developed properly, and can New England do the same thing w/ Mac?  Or is Brady just Brady, and expecting the same progression for Mac is unlikely at best?

     

    Naturally, I'm hoping we don't have a Montana/Young thing going there, and it's still extremely early. I'm just curious if anyone else has any thoughts on it so far.....

     

    Excellent post.  The Montana/Young comparison actually made me shudder a bit.  One hall of fame QB followed by another hall of fame QB??  What are the chances?  Favre/Rodgers, Montana/Young… it has happened before but it’s obviously atypical to say the least. 
     

    No one can know for sure but it’s fun to speculate.  I have seen my share of highlights and lowlights of Jones.  One thing that I hate (as a Bills fan) is that he is not easily flustered.  He makes a bad read, throws a bad pass, fumbles etc.. and he does not let it affect his next series.  He does have a calmness about him which reminds me of Brady & Montana but I hate to even mention him with those two because it’s ridiculous.  As a rookie QB he gets an A so far.  Can I name 10 QBs in the NFL that I would rather have than Mac Jones?  Probably not.  But again.. the sample size is tiny so far.  I would take him over Jimmy Garropolo though.  Is that saying much?  It is also noteworthy that the Pats have spent a ton of money this past offseason.  The team is underrated and honestly hasn’t always been well coached since Brady left.  It’s been a mixed bag.  
     

    Say Jones comes out this week and has a pitiful performance complete with fumbles and picks.  Will we be having this conversation?  To me this is all prisoner of the moment stuff until Jones has three or four seasons under his belt.  Durability is essential as well.. all remains to be seen.

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