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4 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:
You said exactly this: "He was on pace for over 1600 yards and 11 TDS". That's the definition of projecting numbers, sir.
That's stating a fact. Through three games, he was on that pace. I never predicted what his final stats would have been or will be in the future.
That said, nothing he did was flukey or gimmicky. With Kelce slowing down, Brown injured and Worthy needing time to learn, he probably would have put up big numbers.
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16 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:
I think he's a good player and I agree with that . But you can't project 3 games to 17 lol
I didn't project anything. I just said he was putting up elite numbers before his injury.
Bottom line is that he's very talented, and the WR room as a whole should be much better than what we've seen in recent years.
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19 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:
Where are you getting these stats? lol. He wasn't on pace to getting over 1600 yards.
1. It's a 4 game sample size last year which is extremely small, so you can't project that to 17 games
2. He was on pace for 1200 yards, not 1600.
1200 is still very good, but you can't just take a small 4 game sample size and project it over 17 games.
Keon Coleman had a 4 game stretch where he averaged 67.5 yards per game which would project to be around 1150 yards in a season lol
I said that Rice was elite before his injury. Doesn’t guarantee he’ll be consistently elite for the rest of his career, but he was putting up elite numbers. Rice was injured at the beginning of the 4th game. In his first three, he had 103, 110 and 75 yds. Nothing he did was gimmicky or flukey. He’s just an explosive, physical player with good body control.
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3 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:
So this could absolutely be my Bills bias, but aren’t you using the word elite to describe Rice pretty loosely? He was good, but elite is reaaaaallllllyyy stretching it IMO
He was on pace for over 1600 yds and 11 TDs. No, I don’t think it’s a stretch. Was any WR in the league on a better pace? He’s explosive and a YAC monster. -
3 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:
The Chiefs offense the last two seasons have averaged 22.6 and 21.8. This puts them in the very middle of the league.
In the second half of last season with Worthy emerging as a consistent threat....21.2 ppg.
PPG don’t tell the full story, but KC averaged 27 after Hollywood Brown returned, against some of the best defenses in the league. Add Rice, who was elite before his injury. Upgrade at LT (huge upgrade if Simmons is ready). Improved RB room, Royals.
I’ll be surprised if the offense isn’t very good.
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19 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:
I don’t know, it took a blocked FG to beat them at KC last time they met with all starters. KC doesn’t have a good offense and Denver has a good defense….That was when KC's defense was at its most vulnerable and they had a terrible LT. It was also before Worthy emerged as a consistent threat, and no Rice or Hollywood Brown.
The Chiefs' offense will be plenty good.
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30 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:
I thought about that a little more and I think the division....yeah for the Bills. But I think the Commanders really push the Eagles. Not to mention, Detroit will be really good again and they'll be competing for that #1 seed. I think the Eagles, Lions and I also think the Rams could be in contention for the #1.
The Bills, Ravens and Chiefs I think for sure will be competing for the #1. Maybe the Broncos finally overtake the Chiefs for the West....the Chiefs have been squeaking by a lot....one day it will fall.
I had to think about it a lot, my son wants to see Hurts and Barkley.....so I hope Im right lol. I pay a lot of money for these tickets and want to see the starters!
A healthy KC team was already substantially better than the Broncos, and they improved way more this offseason then Denver.
Buffalo's eeked by the Jets and Patriots at times, but I doubt you think they're on the verge of overtaking the division any time soon.
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1 hour ago, Gregg said:
They aren't fading until proven otherwise but their division is getting tougher. Hopefully someone in that division can knock them down to WC status. Harbaugh will build a team that will eventually challenge them. They made the playoffs in his first year there. Can they take the division from them this year. I don't know but they will sometime soon. IMHO
It's possible, but I don't see any reason to expect it. They're still one of the youngest teams in the league and this is probably the best and deepest roster they've had in the Mahomes era. Easily the best WR corps they've had since Hill/Watkins (probably better overall).
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On 5/1/2025 at 10:37 PM, SF Bills Fan said:
Chiefs are starting to fade
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On 2/1/2025 at 2:07 PM, GoBills808 said:
Yeah 2 of those 4 were against our defense tho
Also, 4 of these 5 Bills losses are vs the Chiefs' offense.
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3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:
The line judge who also spotted the ball a yard differently from the side judge
Also is in charge of calling Offside or neutral zone infraction
On the tush push Kansas City had a defender clearly lined up in the neutral zone in clear direction of the line judge who refused to call that.. then had a spot a yard different than the side judge
He literally had two mistakes on one play.. NFL officials should never be a yard off when the two are spotting.. and they definitely shouldn't miss a helmet in the neutral zone on fourth down
My point is that mistakes were made on both sides. It's not easy to be a ref and to get every call correct in real time.
If there were an agenda to help KC, it doesn't make sense that they'd overlook blatant penalties on the opponent. The easiest way to help a team is to call the obvious ones.
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11 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:
I just said there are multiple no calls on both sides throughout the game
I watched the game three times
There are terrible spots in all four quarters for the bills.. I did not see a bad spot for the Chiefs in the same vein
I did see some no calls where they could have called The penalty on the bills but they didn't.. I'm not being biased when I did not see one bad spot for the chiefs
The spotting was out of whack from the first quarter for the bills
I didn't pay enough attention to the spots to have an opinion on it, but if your agenda is to hurt a team, there are much better ways to do it than to short them by six inches or a foot on some spots. Especially an offense as strong as Buffalo's, which is usually automatic in short yardage situations.
Meanwhile, it was obvious in real time that the Bills defender jumped offside way before any false starts occurred, yet they called a false start that put KC in 3rd and 15 and killed a drive. On another play, a blatant facemask on the ball carrier was ignored, which would have set KC up for a FG try at minimum. Instead they punted.
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59 minutes ago, ShakAttack said:
There are some good points here, but I was referring to the fact that there have been no calls against them in decisive moments since the Kadarius Toney offensive Offside penalty last year when Mahomes threw a massive tantrum, which remains valid. I do agree that there have been significant calls against the Chiefs prior to this season, but this season, there have been none that I can think of. This season, KC seems to be getting different treatment, whether you want to say it is coincidental or not, the bottom line is the same.
Which decisive calls are you referring to? Only one I can remember was the DPI vs the Bengals, which set up the game-winning FG, and that was one of the most blatant DPIs you'll see.
59 minutes ago, ShakAttack said:Regarding the Bills lucking out in the Ravens game, that is 100% correct. In fact, when friends & family congratulated me after that game, my initial reaction was, "Wow, I am not used to seeing the Bills get the lucky breaks in the playoffs; maybe this season is different after all," and then after Mark Andrews drops the pass on the Ravens final play on offense of the season, we all watch Kincaid do the same thing. Does that mean the Chiefs got lucky? I mean, yes, we were clearly outcoached in that game, but regardless of what happened in the first 3 quarters, this game was always going to come down to the 4th quarter one way or another, and in that quarter, the Chiefs had 2 extremely lucky moments. First being the terrible spot on 4th and 1 (refs and out of our control), and second being the Kincaid drop (self inflicted by Bills).
Only one thing I disagree with here...people always focus on what happens near the end of the game, but big plays/calls are impactful and play a role in the outcome no matter when they occur. Which is why it irritated me to hear people going on and on two years ago after the AFCC vs the Bengals and the Eagles SB. Nevermind that the late hit vs CIN was clear and obvious...would the game have even been close enough for it to matter if the officials hadn't taken both a TD and an INT away from KC? No one even acknowledges that those things happened. In the SB, would the defensive hold have mattered if they hadn't made a questionable call that took Bolton's fumble TD off the board?
You have to admit, Buffalo was pretty lucky to recover all 5 fumbles and have multiple INTs dropped (plus a botched handoff). What are the odds of all those things going your way? But yeah, they were probably unlucky with that 4th down spot. Maybe the 3rd down spot too. Only saw one angle of that and it was hard to tell. It was right in front of the Bills' bench though, so you'd think they'd have challenged if it appeared he had it.
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39 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:
There are missed penalties on both sides of the ball throughout the game but spotting a ball is an absolutely critical part to football that nobody talks about
100% Chiefs had good spots while the bills had 7 or eight maybe even 9 iffy spots throughout the game
That's a way to control the game 100% especially in a game of inches don't kid yourself
8-9 bad spots for Buffalo and 100% good spots for KC? Don't you think that's a slightly biased take?
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6 minutes ago, ShakAttack said:
I personally don’t think that, actually. But at the same time it is also hard to believe that ever since the Kadarius Toney offensive Offside last season (a correct call) the Chiefs have not had ANY decisive calls go against them, while having numerous go in their favor, and it just seems like too many to be merely a “coincidence”. Especially when you consider this is a team that played almost every single game down to the wire this season. I have my own theory on it, and it’s not that refs are “intentionally” doing it, but it’s very difficult to believe it’s pure coincidence (unless they really do just have four leaf clovers up their a$$es)
I don’t understand why people say that no big calls go against KC. The biggest calls have often gone against them.
4 TDs and 2 turnovers were wiped away by penalties in the previous two playoff runs. 0 for their opponents. Last postseason they were the only team to have a TD negated by penalty and it happened twice. In the SB, SF drew a bailout DPI on 3rd and 13 in OT. KC was penalized 11 times to 4 for Tampa in the SB in ‘21. Etc.
An ESPN article from earlier this season found that the Chiefs were the most penalized team in the league in close/late game situations. Overall they’ve been one of the most penalized teams during the Mahomes era, despite having a great coaching staff that’s very detail-oriented and practices them hard.
Fans claim to want fair officiating but it’s clear that’s not the case, because they don’t say a word if a call is blown in favor of a KC opponent and they don’t question calls that go against the Chiefs.
It’s fair to say that KC’s had some lucky moments here and there, but it’s not exclusive to them. Look at just the last two games for the Bills for example. The turnover luck vs Baltimore and the drop by Andrews, the fumbled handoff by KC, multiple blown calls. 5 fumbles in the game and all 5 recovered by the Bills. Multiple dropped INTs.
I don’t think KC has more luck than most teams, and they definitely don’t get all the calls. It’s just magnified to the extreme whenever they do benefit from a questionable call.
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1 hour ago, finn said:
No way I'm watching the Fraud Bowl with the incessant glazing of Mahomes. Makes me physically ill to hear that garbage.
But first signs of recovery: I'm just beginning to think about the draft. I hope Beane realizes his team doesn't just have go be better than KC; it has to be a LOT better to overcome the cheating. Somehow he has to give Allen receivers of Bengals caliber and a defense of KC caliber, or even one of these. I know he's been trying. The Von Miller contract was--and will continue to be--an epic disaster, through no fault of Beane's, as was the Diggs contract albatross last year. If both those players had worked out, things would likely be different, even with the cheating.
Dear God, people…You really think the outcome of that game was determined by a bad spot? And you think the ref knowingly spotted it short?
There were two blatant missed calls that contributed to two Chiefs punts (their only punts in the game). An obvious facemask, and an obvious Offside that was called a false start, leading to 3rd and 15. Were the refs cheating for both teams?
For their own mental health, people should really let go of the ref insanity.
Buffalo had the ball, down three, with three min left. That was a golden opportunity. Plus, there were five fumbles in the game and all five were recovered by Buffalo. KC also dropped multiple gift-wrapped interceptions. That’s a lot of luck and I don’t think it’s offset by a questionable spot.
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2 hours ago, Pete said:
Take a look at this Twitter thread.
This isn't meant to antagonize...just a little perspective. Not all the calls/missed calls go the Chiefs' way. Not by a long shot.
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44 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
I don't think KC won by conspiracy on Sunday. I think both the questionable calls the officials very much erred towards stay on the field. On the 4th down, being perfectly honest, I would not have overturned the call on the field either based on the video and my gut instinct at the time was he didn't make it. When I watch the video back I think he probably did make it but the ball is not in view at the critical moment it's behind someone's back so the refs would be guessing.
They screwed the pooch on the Worthy catch though. That was clearly incomplete and should have been overturned. I'm not getting super mad about it though, they Bills had a hold call on that play anyway (think it was Taron Johnson) so the Chiefs were getting a new set of downs anyway even if it was 15 yards or so further back.
Yeah, the Worthy call was iffy. I think they just felt there wasn't enough evidence to overturn, since by the rule it has to be indisputable. I get why many think it was a bad call, but that one's complicated. He seemed to tighten his grip on the ball just before hitting the ground. Did the ball move when it hit the ground? Hard to tell. Gene Steratore wasn't sure either.
Steratore did say that he thought Allen had the first on the 4th down play. I tend to agree, but it was close and you can see how a ref would miss that in real time.
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On 1/29/2025 at 4:48 PM, Steptide said:
Still pissy. The thing that's annoying me more than anything, is seeing all the kc fans on Twitter that actually believe all the flags that kc gets are legit. I will 100% admit that kc outplayed the bills, but I cannot stand the blind homerism. And I include some bills fans in that. I will admit when a call is a bad call. Example - the pi called on tre white against Coleman against Baltimore. Terrible call. The thing I find so odd too is, I find it so much easier to admit a bad call if the bills win. See my example above regarding the pi on tre white. For whatever reason though, even though kc won and is going to the superbowl yet again, kc fans (at least what I've seen) are absolutely dead set on saying they don't get biased flags. It's such bs. Just freaking admit that you've had garbage flags that have helped your team.
I think any KC fan will admit that iffy calls have gone their way at times. They’re just not willing to admit it’s evidence of a planned agenda. Every team gets iffy calls. One can say that KC gets more than others, but there’s no evidence of that.We all know that refs have a difficult job and are inconsistent or, at times, even incompetent. A controversial call shouldn’t automatically be chalked up to conspiracy. Fans complain about calls in literally every game involving any pair of teams.
In all seriousness, the most crushing and impactful calls have gone against KC in the postseason. Four KC TDs were negated by penalty in the last two playoff runs, along with multiple turnovers. Their opponents had zero of either. How can there be an obvious conspiracy to help them if the most impactful calls go against them?
As an example…would the hold at the end of the ‘22 SB have mattered if they hadn’t made a very iffy call to wipe Bolton’s defensive score off the board?
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12 hours ago, Pete said:
lots of plays left on the table, and multiple horrible Ref decisions cost us the game. There are multiple photos that show Josh got the 4th and 1
In a few views, it looked like he may have gotten the ball past the line. But if he did, it was by an inch or two.
These guys often have to look at 12 different views of a play in slow motion for 10 minutes to get it right…and sometimes it’s STILL questionable. Yet people expect them to be perfect on a call this close in real time?
If people want to be objective, they should ask why a blatant facemask wasn’t called, which would have set the Chiefs up for a FG try at minimum. Or how they interpreted an obvious Offside as a false start, turning what should have been 3rd and 5 into 3rd and 15. Both calls directly led to KC’s only punts of the game.
These were the most blatant missed calls in the game.
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13 hours ago, ShakAttack said:
As far as the "refs are human and make mistakes" argument, my counter to that would be... yes they do make mistakes, but why is it that NONE of these flags thrown in critical moments of the games have gone AGAINST KC!? They have ALL been to their benefit.
Look at any other team in the NFL and the bad calls go both ways. You want me to believe that it's pure coincidence that KC is the only team this doesn't happen to?
That's just not true.
Last postseason, KC was the only team to have a TD erased by penalty and it happened twice. In the last two playoff runs, they've had 4 TDs erased and two turnovers negated. All in huge moments of close games. Their opponents had zero of either.
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Aside from the fact that the poster wasn’t seriously wishing death on anybody, this is like judging Bills fans by the Kermit lynching.
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1 hour ago, Bookie Man said:
After we beat them in the RS, didn't Reid say something like "Next time we play them, we're gonna run the ball 50 times."? Play up close to LOS and get after Mahomes.
Did he really say something like that? Maybe privately, but I wouldn't think he'd blurt that out to the media.
I do think they'll run more this time around though.
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1 hour ago, Buffalo03 said:
The dude had like 7 catches for over 100 yards and a TD last week against the Texans. He is still Mahomes go to guy
The go-to guy seems to be different every week. Any of those four could have a big game.
I definitely wouldn't leave Kelce wide open over the middle like Houston did on that one play, but that was an error by the defender. I think doubling him is a bad strategy at this point. One or more of Brown, Worthy, Hopkins are likely to be wide open.
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Sacks are far more unpredictable and inconsistent than receiving yds.
Again, the only point was that Rice had an elite start to the year. It was clear he'd made a solid jump in the offseason. Bottom line: Rice/Worthy/Brown/Smith-Schuster/Royals should be a very solid WR corps. The numbers don't matter.