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1 minute ago, TheCockSportif said:
He was certainly better today, even at not 100%. But, bad picks, and the fumble. Not good.
I think that JA17 is great, make no mistake. But the only chance they have is if he gets it together.
I agree. I’m just pointing out that, even with those individual errors, he was far better today than in the slump games last year.-
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1 minute ago, SCBills said:
We won, but I remember Atlanta being pretty rough for Allen too.
Also, the weather was horrible every home game last year.
Last week was a re-run of the Falcons game - strong running, horrific passing. -
1 minute ago, Steptide said:
Yes it was. Titans game, Colts game, bucs game, pats wind game etc.
They'll get it corrected. I'd rather this happen now than with 3 weeks left in the season
The Bucs game is probably similar to today - one good half, one poor half, heartbreak in overtime. Chuck in a similarity to the Titans game in as far as the botched final play. -
11 minutes ago, Slack_in_MA said:
Who is out there that you'd love to bring in instead?
Not that I’m saying we should do it, but the obvious one is Payton.-
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2 minutes ago, Einstein said:
It sure didn’t feel this hopeless.
It feels hopeless because the AFC East is stronger this year and our defense is on the midst of an injury crisis so cannot bail him out. In truth, Josh played better today than he did in his slump games in 2021.-
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1 minute ago, TheCockSportif said:
He did go through a slump last year, but correct me if I'm wrong: it wasn't this ugly.
The Colts and Jets covered eight quarters out of 12. He actually played better today overall than he did in either of those games. Then we had his performance against the Falcons, which closely reflected what happened last week and that was week seventeen. -
12 minutes ago, Einstein said:
Yeah losing Daboll was massive.
Just from the steadying presence standpoint that Josh clearly needs and has always had.
Josh went through a very similar slump last year WITH Daboll.-
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2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:
This team can't get it done on both sides of the ball. It's a good team but not a great team. I think it's safe to say Allen has regressed, secondary can't get healthy, run defense stinks, the offensive game plan and calling is poor, the WR besides Diggs are inconsistent, and the team is very good at losing close games. Good news is the Bills are 6-3 but it feels more like 3-6. Don't know how the Bills turn around the season.
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1 hour ago, wppete said:
Right now the only Bills player that has earned his big $$$ contract so far has been Matt Milano. All he does is produce when he is out there and is a difference maker. I would argue Josh has also but we are paying him huge money and he has cost us many games in his career due to mistakes. Tredavious has been mediocre and injured. Von has been good but not great. Dion Fawkins is average at best. We can’t pay Tremaine he is not worth it nor is Ed Oliver.
Our defense went to pot today after we lost Edmunds.-
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Just now, JayBaller10 said:
Allen isn’t on Mahomes level, but I don’t think the gap is gargantuan. After games like today, you do wonder when we’ll get the #17 back who used to hear “MVP!” chants from the home crowd. I feel like Daboll could rein Allen in, I don’t have that same confidence in Dorsey.
I’d say Josh at his best is slightly better than Mahomes though there isn’t much in it. Even taking into account the slump Einstein is referring to, Josh’s floor is far lower than Mahomes’ and that’s where the issue lies.-
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Just now, CoudyBills said:
That's just plain Tua slander. I'm not a big Tua guy but he is a hell of a lot better than that classification. You think Josh isn't elevated by Diggs? That ridiculous catch Diggs makes today is the only reason Josh didn't have 3 interceptions today. The receivers matter too.
Yes, but I think the Dolphins WR core is why the Dolphins are up there - not the QB. He’s very good but his ceiling is lower than Josh’s. Sadly his floor may be higher, though. In comparison, I think everything with us on offense rides with Josh. -
Just now, CoudyBills said:
Mahomes, Rodgers, Brady, Tua, Burrow
Mahomes and Brady, yes. Rodgers if he can be bothered. Tua is being elevated by Hill and Waddle. Give them to Josh and see what happens, even if we give Diggs to Miami alongside Davis in return. Burrow is very much like Josh - superb one series then messes the bed. Neither of them have much in way of an O Line. -
11 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said:
I wish people would stop using injuries as an excuse. They will never be as healthy as they were last year and every single team has them. Just stop it already with the excuses. This team is mentally weak from top to bottom
No Hyde, no White, no Poyer, no Rousseau, no Edmunds (our defensive issues today really started when he was withdrawn)… any defense is going to have issues missing that calibre of player. But, at the same time, the brain fades seem to be everywhere. -
4 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:
Do you even watch the games or just come on here afterwards to complain?. Miller had his normal 2 high impact plays today, per usual, including a crucial sack. Last week he had a strip sack/recovered fumble that could have turned the game around. 8 sacks in 9 games (which equates to over 15 sacks in a 17 game season). Not sure what more you want from him. Please do elaborate......
Maybe I’m being harsh. Just expected him to really boost the D Line and have the QBs plus the running game under constant pressure and stress. As it is, sometimes it feels like they’re still executing plays far too easily from the off.
Everyone’s saying the coaches are expecting Josh to carry the Offense. Perhaps I’m being hypocritical in expecting Miller to carry a depleted defense.
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7 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said:
He is definitely not the same quarterback as last year, that is for sure. Unfortunately his mental game is falling apart and I just hope that they have enough wins to grab a wild card.
He is. This is exactly the Josh we saw against the Jags, the Colts, the Patriots in the wind game (ok, perhaps unfair), the first half of the Bucs and the Falcons.-
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14 minutes ago, RiotAct said:
what did he say?
Sorry, was speaking about his performances on the field. Haven’t had a chance to listen to the interview. -
17 minutes ago, Steptide said:
Von had some bold words post game. Hoping he knows something we don't
To be honest, I've been pretty unimpressed with Miller for a while now. Hasn't had the impact I expected a player of his talent to have, particularly lately.
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1 minute ago, HappyDays said:
I'm still not entirely sure what happened there. Was it a bad snap from Morse? It was just a bizarre flukey play, I don't think Allen made a specific mistake. If he did just fumble the snap that is very frustrating but I don't know how to factor that play into the context of his overall play.
I think the only really bad play from Allen today was the last one. Unfortunately that's the play that will define the game, that's how it always works. But I come away from this game encouraged that Allen learned from his mistakes against the Jets and is working his way out of a slump.
He made exactly the same mistake today as he did against the Jets? Though I agree, overall his play was far better today than last week.
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2 minutes ago, Flucod said:
That is not true, there was Singletary wide open underneath and another receiver running an out route of the left side about 10 yards down the field, JA predetermined he was going for TD. That is not coaching during the game, we can argue that he is not being coached during the week on how to manage game situations. But alsmost any QB takes the underneath there, I think he wanted to give Diggs a game winning TD to thumb it in MN face.
Except wasn't he aiming it at Davis?
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In truth just one play would have won us the game out of load of boneheaded errors:
- FG instead of 4th down and pick
- Lewis batting down the ball instead of trying for the interception
- Josh's fumble
- Diggs catching the ball
- Knox catching the ball
- The lack of DPI at the death
- The final pick
If just one of those had happened we'd be talking about a thrilling win right now.
1 minute ago, RyanC883 said:I agree, but the turnovers are a bye-product of bad play-calling having all WR in endzone when JA is having trouble throwing it there.
But was it bad play calling or was it superb play calling? Four WRs in the end zone left Singletary free for an easy completion underneath, which would have given us vital yardage. It was a great piece of design play with awful execution.
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12 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
Yes, I was more than satisfied. He led our offense to 30 points, which really should have been 33 if our head coach didn't throw up on himself in an easy FG situation. I am frustrated with the decision on the last pass but he also single handedly got us into that position to begin with. The read told him we have a post route into quarters coverage which is exactly what he wanted to see, but Davis wasn't on the same page and Peterson made a great read on the play. Allen repeatedly overcame a series of bad play calls and poor pass protection and dragged our offense up and down the field for most of the day. A poor decision on the last pass of the game doesn't negate all that.
Plus the dreadful fumble which gifted them the touchdown. I think there can be some sympathy on the 4th and down touchdown but it was a stupid playcall to start with and, if it was Josh's call not to kick the field goal, then McDermott should have pulled rank on him.
Outside of those three plays he played his best game since the bye. But those three plays cost us, even though I agree we wouldn't even have been in it without him.
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Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said:
We’ll I can’t speak on that side of it, but I can see with my own eyes over the last few years there’s no enough balance. That bothered me with Dabol too. Until this team can run the ball effectively with someone of there then Josh, physical teams are always going to give us fits.
But since the bye we've run the ball quite well. We get a lead, abandon the run in the second half and collapse.
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1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:
Someone needs to get in Josh’s ear in certain spots and say absolutely need at least 3 here and by no means put the ball in harms way. That needs to happen. Idgaf how sensitive people are about this. We have games to win. Save him from himself period
I think someone made the superb point earlier querying whether Dorsey and Josh are too alike. Do they hype themselves up and egg each other on? Is there a lack of a calming influence which then impacts on the plays being made? Dorsey should have been in Josh's ear for that final play - take what they give you, accept the FG if need be, do not turnover, do not fumble, play it safe. If it did happen, why was it ignored? If it didn't happen, why not?
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1 minute ago, buffblue said:
Ok, fair enough. For whatever reason he can't permanently shake the need to always make the big play
Agree with that. If we only took the big play when it was clearly there, and otherwise checked down and dink and dunked he'd be the best QB bar none. Play is mental as much as physical. Josh has all of the physical skills but mentally he shuts down far too often.
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NFL Week 10 - Vikings at Bills post game thread
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Posted · Edited by UKBillFan
It’s the traditional “point the finger at anything or anyone to take the heat off Josh” approach. Josh kept us in the game but he also cost us it. Any player in Lewis’ position then would go for the interception. If he didn’t we’d all be moaning at hom for not catching the ball (see Milano).