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What i saw this season till now about Allen, is that he seems always not comfortable like he was last year. I mean, he doesn’t give me the feeling that he’s always in control. He had lot of picks, poor throws, like if he was hesitant on what to do.
Maybe because our weak OL, maybe because with Diggs, Sander and Bease all together on the field, he is not sure who to hit. I don’t really know… maybe i’m totally wrong, but this is what i see. That said, i still believe Josh is a top 5 QB without question.
To me Bease is a beast, one of the best slot receiver in the nfl, Wes Welker level and we have Knox that is a heck of TE… so use them more in short routes !
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Here we are ! After this last Pats win, i want to compare the Bills and the Pats in every aspect and see what you think about.
- HC: pats
- QB: Bills
- RB: pats (with Brida maybe even)
- OL: pats
- DL: bills
- WR corps: Bills
- CORNERS & SAFETIES: Bills
- KICKER: Bills
- SP TEAM: even ?
Maybe i forgot to consider some other aspect, if so feel free to add or correct me. That’s the way i see things in this next matchup. To me, the most important thing McDermott and Daboll have to do, is to find a way to give Josh more time to throw and involve Knox much more, because to me Knox is not at Gronk or Kelce level, but to me is a very good TE.
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2 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:
No excuses. Tre is a great player but he wasn't playing top 5 CB level in 2021. Just use more zone and less man to man. If Pats beat the Bills because White is out, then this team and in particular this coaching staff is even worse than I thought. This is a SB caliber team with a MVP QB playing at home against a rookie QB. The only way they lose is to be outcoached.
Well…. with BB on the other side, McDermott being outcoached is something possible. For the Bills to win against the Pats on next MNF the offense must step up and play at another level compared at what we saw this year… and of course cutting all the turns and penalties we too much often have.
1 hour ago, doubledd67 said:Every Team in the NFL is facing key injuries so Bills fans let's stop with the excuses the next man up is on deck for every team in the NFL so know it comes down to to Coaching and McDermott and his staff needs to step up more down the stretch that is all
No more to add to your post. Agree every words.
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3 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:
No question, the Titans losing Henry and the Texans losing Watson are bigger losses.
And those teams aren't going to the Super Bowl this year because of those losses. Yes, other teams have suffered worse injuries or losses. Those teams are now out of realistic contention.
Losing Tre is big, a really big blow to our chances. It doesn't mean the season's over. But it hurts our chances.
Let's deal with that and move on.
Of course we have to (deal with that and move on). And like many here correctly said, this situation can become a strong motivation for coaches and players to find different solutions on both O and D. On O being more efficient and creative, but most of al we must cut turnovers and penalties down.
On D it can be the time to become more aggressive, trying to get to the QB more often with a better pass rush, or using more blitzes.
Anyway something has to change with our overall quality and this beside Tre’s injury. Till now they didn’t give me the feeling they are set to be in the contenders’s group honestly.
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5 minutes ago, Putin said:
The problem is that we have no depth at CB position , I still can’t believe that we didn’t have a legitimate plan if something like this was to happen ,
hopefully we don’t have any more injuries and Dane Jackson can step up and prove me wrong
Can we please stop with bringing in Allen in to this ?? Enough already !!!
I’m sorry you are pissed of of my words… i just wanted to say that the only player that could stop our chances to get to the SB with his absence, is Allen.
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6 minutes ago, letsgoteam said:
I've felt the same way. Losing Tre is a big loss, that's not the argument. At least it was someone on defense.
If the Bills play up to their ability on offense, they can simply outscore everyone.
Of course. This offense, playing at best, can score 30+ points every game. Our D does not allow other teams to score 30+ points easily… if not very few times. If 100 healty our D is a top 5, no question.
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The point is: if it was Allen, i would have been the first to say our season was over, but com’on… allowing that losing Tre is absolutely heavy, we can find a way to reach our goal, but only if the offense start to play great football and not like happened since the Titans game.
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20 minutes ago, stosh64 said:
Yeah, exactly what I was talking about, I didn't know about the 'Ewing' theory, but I could see this team rising to the challenge.
Many say, 'this offense could be so good. We haven't seen their best yet', Maybe we will now.
I needed some hopium...
Exactly what i was saying: if the offense would start playing at A to A+ level (actually their level is B to B-), we could worry much less about Tre’s injury, because with the ton of talent we have with Josh and the WRs corp, we could score 30 almost every game.
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19 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:
Agreed generally. But I think losing a CB1 usually is harder to replace than a RB.
Not losing a RB caliber like Henry.
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Ok, all of us agree that losing Tre for the season is devastating for our “possible” chances to get the job done this year… well, i don’t see it.
I’m still sure that, even if Tre is an outstanding player, we could afford his absence. It wouldn’t be like this if it was Josh and not Tre to be out for the season. We will find a way to replace Tre or we’ll find a way to make some little change at our defensive game plan… maybe using more double team against the best opposite WRs… or maybe switching more often from man to man to a zone coverage…
Losing Josh would have been unfixable. So be calm, everything will be ok, if we find a way to play a better football both side, offense and defense, because lately we weren’t so good.
Some team suffered worse injuries or general losses, ask the Titans with Henry, ask the Texans with Watson.. or what it could be if Indy would lose Taylor, or Baltimore with Jackson, or Green Bay losing Rodgers.
Of course losing Tre for the season is a bad bad thing, but we can survive it if starting playing better over all.
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55 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:
Its the same ***** we watched against the Titans x2. We have a singular game plan and when it becomes clear that our personnel can't execute the plan Frazier does nothing.
Exactly: after the very first plays of the game, it was clear that Taylor was going to have a great day, so why not change the formation to waste their plan ? Would have it worked ? We don’t know, but i think that Taylor would have been contained and their OL could have been faced better.
4 minutes ago, Draconator said:We do not have the personnel for a 4-3. Someone else suggest a 5-2 defense, and that would serve our personnel much better.
I said before that i agree that a 5-2 could have been another right solution.
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1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
I'm sorry but you don't get to claim "right". First of all, we don't get a "do over", so while we can speculate, we don't get to know we're rght
Second, look at it from a logical perspective. We were already replacing our starting MLB with good LB who is not as good in coverage - the one who would come in for 4-3, Klein.
So going to base defense would mean bringing in a 2nd backup player, probably Tyrel Dodson or Matakevich. Are they better players, more capable than Taron Johnson? Probably not; at the most, "not proven".
That's possible. Wentz could have had a 300 yd passing game and 3 passing TDs instead.
Any time you turn the ball over twice down near your own goal line and spot the opponent 14 points, it's going to be a bad day.
I think the point people were making to you is like my first paragraph above - you're talking about basically putting a 2nd backup LB on the field to play 4-3.
Yes… i think that using Tyrel Dodson or Matakevich, the second more than the first, would have been better that Taron in this particular game. And believe me, Wenz couldn’t have had 300+ passing yards and three TDs because our secondary is too good first and second because he’s not able to throw for 300+ yards.
Agree on the turns.
At last, on the first instance, i didn’t mean that i’m the one the is right and the others not.. i just referred about the using the 4-3 and not the nickel when we face strong backs, the past showed this. -
7 minutes ago, Jerome007 said:
A lot of us have been saying it. But Edmunds was injured. But yeah for heavy running teams such as the Colts, Pats, Ravens, having Klein-Milano-Edmunds would make sense. Star would have helped too. But still, 274 yards rushing? The Colts OL pushed the Bills DL like they were lightweights. DL and OL are the weak points of the Bills. For the DL it's stings more as so much money is invested in it, and so many roster spots taken.
Exactly. That ‘s you must fortify the DL in the 4-3 or even 8 in the box and the OL with a TD almost every play and maybe sometimes two backs together to give Josh more time to throw. More slant routes and jet sweep could help also.
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1 minute ago, f150raptor said:
Before the Tennessee game I thought we would go to a 4-3 and force Tannehill to beat us. We didn't.
Before the game yesterday I was hoping they would rethink this approach and they didn't with worse results. Do we not game plan or what.
Is it that coaches wont make obvious adjustments.
They are terrified about make some changes and maybe lose… terrified to be attacked from everywhere about the changes made.
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1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said:
Thinking that you've been shown to be right because they did something you don't like and then they lost doesn't make sense ... you've failed to indicate correlation.
Seems to me just as likely or probably more so to be about not having Lotulelei and Edmunds, and about the offense and the STs also having a crappy day and putting us way behind.
I honestly don’t see where i had to indicate the correlation: i simply said that maybe i was right to think about using a 4-3 base and not the nickel in this specifically game against the Colts.
I get you when you said we were without Lotulelei and Edmunds and that we had a very poor day, but leaving the Colts their main weapon, it could have helped.2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:They also did run effectively out of 3 wr sets, but why the bills d were in nickel even a 3 TE sets I can’t comprehend
Exactly, this is another interesting observation.
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2 hours ago, Wayne Cubed said:
GunnerBill and I talked about it in Game Day thread. It's really about not having Edmunds. Not having 3 good/healthy LBs may is what forced it. The Bills coaches preferred to have Johnson on field to Tyrel Dodson. Think it says more about what they think about their LB depth.
Well, not having Edmunds could have been something to be concerned, but with a RB like Taylor to face and knowing how much we suffer physical backs, it could have been enough to switch in a 4-3 base. But i understand your point.
1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:Do you really hate to say it?
Yes i really do, because i’m italian and living here in italy but i follow this Franchise every single year since 1989 and came in the US more than one time just to go to watch them in Orchard Park, so yes i hate that i was right because we lost 41-15 !
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Well... from yesterday i still feel very bad about the massacre we suffered at home... and i still think that using the 4-3 base defense and not the nikel, the outcome could have been very different.
Ok... we had four turnovers, ok we played a poor offensive game and yes, as always, we played too soft... but i'm sure that using a 4-3 base defense Taylor would not have had 183 rushing yards and four rushing TDs.
Many of you agreed with me when some days ago i was suggesting about using the 4-3 in this game because of Taylor... many of you didn't, saying that the nikel is our best D and that we didn't have to change it... because it worked... i was thinking about the 4-3 because we always struggle against strong OLs with great RBs, like we did against the Titans.
Sometimes better don't be stubborn and change your system to limit or nullify other Teams strenghts. Start with limit Taylor, then let see what happen with Wenz and our offense, but if you cut 183 yards to 70/80, i think the game is a totale different one.
41-15 at home is brutal... maybe the worse possible scenario, but i still believe we can regain the lead in the Division if healty and maybe............. smarter.
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Play aggressive, cut the turns and we’ll be fine
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Holy cow … it seems we are playing against the NFL defending champion. Well, they are not !
Are they a quality team ? Yes —- We better, no doubt.Do they have a very good RB ? Yes —- this where we pay the price every week, so no something new
Are they a superbowl caliber team ? No —- we are
Do they have a top 5 QB ? No —- we do, a top 3
Is their record till now so good ? No —- our is, even with that painful Jags meltdown
Well… we are playing at home, full of the best fans in the NFL and a top 3 wild environment… let’s play this game like it was a playoff one.
Let’s just do three things: play a very physical game on D, because sometimes we are too “clean”, find a way to give all the protection Josh need to give him time to read and throw.. and cut stupid penalties, we need to stay inside 50/60 penalty yards, not more… take care of this three aspects and i’m sure we’ll come away with a good W, not easy, but a good one, not on the wire.-
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8 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:
The Bills have outscored opponents by 145 points this season, and the best point differential through 10 games in franchise history is plus-138 (1990).
They currently rank second in points per game (31.1) and first in points allowed per game (15.0), meaning they could become the first team since the 2007 Patriots to lead the NFL in both scoring offense and scoring defense in Week 11 or later.
And still they are 5-5….
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2 minutes ago, benderbender said:
Could we just have the Colts visit and Taylor stay home?
Ehhhhte … everything is possible… a stomach ache you know…
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Sunday is coming … Colts and Taylor are coming to town… Spencer Brown out … so, in a single word, how you feel about sunday ?
And how many chance you give to a Bills win ?
Me: anxious
My chance: from 70 to 75%
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1 hour ago, hondo in seattle said:
I agree with every point you make. But I do think you overstated your intro just a bit. We're #1 in yards and points allowed which is amazing. But #2 in pass yards allowed and #3 in rushing yards allowed. We're not really number 1 almost across the board but we are #1 in the most important metrics and high in others.
It boggles the mind that a team that runs Nickel as much as we do can be #3 in rushing defense.
I can only see using a 4-3 when facing a running team. And the Colts are a running team. When Taylor rushes for over 100 yards, they win. When he doesn't, they lose. That's been the trend. So it'll be interesting what Frazier dials up.
Exactly, that’s why i suggested a 4-3 formation against strong running teams.
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8 hours ago, In Summary said:
- Could be TJ's money but could also be analytics based risk assessment. Maybe TJ simply guards you against more big plays than would Klein or 3rd LB?
- McDermott and Frazier, college and pro secondary players respectively, understand the defensive backfield and are arguably playing to their experience and coaching strengths. If Klein (or 3rd LB) and TJ were a draw on inherent talent, I'd still expect the coaches to lean TJ/nickel over 4-3.
- TJ and Poyer aren't afraid to hit so they're not necessarily run game liabilities IMO. I've joked that Poyer is our most physical linebacker.
- I like Klein to jumpstart the pass rush if the front 4 are ineffective. I wouldn't ask that of Edmunds.
- Most times the Bills have one guy (sometimes two) over 300 lb while the opponent's line has five. Edmunds and Milano are not Shane Conlan and Jim Haslett. We're built to stop the premier passing teams and not the two or three premier inside running games.
- The base 4-3 vs nickel debate is hopefully just about getting past those couple of teams than could derail your playoff seating.
I thought the same about our OL players’s pounds compared to others D lines. I agree we are lighter and that’s another reason to use three LB’s, to support and strenght our front four against the run.
This just when we face great backs like Henry, Kamara, etc. But it seem that people think i’m saying to change everything on D - I’’M NOT SAYING THIS, OK ?
I was thinking about using a 4-3 in particular games against strong backs and “normal” QBs.
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Bills vs Pats: “pound for pound” teams analysis
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Thanks for your correction. DL Pats ? Even with our full healthy DL ?