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Boxcar

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  1. 10 hours ago, wppete said:

    He will retire as a bill... best Buffalo QBs the last 30 years:

     

    Jim Kelly

    Josh Allen

    Ryan Fitzpatrick 

    Doug Flutie

    Andy Dalton
     

     

    How can you possibly not include Drew Bledsoe?

    1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

    $10 MILLION for an aging, worn out perennial backup quarterback? The Bills are going to have to pay Allen a fortune! 

    What's perplexing to me is that Cam got 14 million while clearly being a much worse QB than Fitz, who got 10. Lol Pats.

  2. 5 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    You realise they don't play the same position on teams that Taiwan Jones plays, right? We will have a couple of players at the backend of the DB, WR and RB depth chart who are there primarily to play teams. 

     

    Not unless he has mushy peas too

    I'm only commenting on the last part, but if you guys have never had good mushy peas, you don't know what you're missing. I can eat a straight bowl of that stuff and my wife isn't even using marrowfat peas, which are hard to find.

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  3. 8 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

    Wasn't there some noise about Ciara having a lot to say regarding where Mr. Ciara ended up playing?  Time to dust off her 'Lisa Douglas' imitation? 🤔😁

    I think you mean Mr. UN

    LIIIIIMMMITTTED

     

    I'm unhappy with a team that competes for a SB every year, therefore please trade me to the Bears. Makes sense.

     

    This will never not be funny, and true

     

     

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  4. 2 hours ago, Niagara Dude said:

    On a one year deal

     

    He is also not going to cost the Bills huge money

    Your suggesting is?  the team has a need and not a lot of cap space to fill that need. 

    They have more than a John Ross level of cap space to fill it. Guy sucks.

    1 hour ago, oldmanfan said:

    I predict John Brown will replace John Brown.  Once the dust settles he'll be re-signed to a reasonable deal.

    I'm very much hoping for this as well, but it's just really off that Beane never approached him to take a pay cut. That tells me something is up...but of all the more budget friendly WR options, how are any of them better than Smoke? Especially since he knows the system. He isn't just fast, either, he runs great routes.

  5. 8 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

    He's been an average interior OL. He adds value with his ability to play all 3 interior positions at a pretty average level. 

     

    It would be very difficult to find a better OG for $5 million per year in UFA. 

     

    What stats by the way? 

    Hyperbole on the stats as OL stats are very nebulous, but PFF has him rated as much better for the run than the pass, which doesn't really mesh. He's a below average lineman and won't be getting better. I'd have much rather gotten Kevin Zeitler at the numbers he got than Feliciano at his. I just don't feel comfortable with Feliciano as a starter. Let him work running downs but we needed an upgrade there. Ike Boettger is probably basically the same player as Feliciano and no one is calling for us to pay him 5 million per year.

    8 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:


    Who is over rating him?

     

    We haven’t even seen the numbers on his deal yet... he might be gone in 2022

    There were a few who were clamoring to cut Mitch Morse and have Mongo start at C...I think that says a lot.

  6. Holy jeeze, Feliciano is wildly overrated here. Maybe they didn't want to roll the dice on being able to lock up a FA guard who is better? Or maybe it's another one of those "culture" signings.

     

    My basis for this conclusion is every stat ever, btw. Let the thumbs down roll in.

  7. On 2/7/2021 at 3:46 AM, MrEpsYtown said:

    This is an original round tender situation. That second round tender would make this guy the 3rd highest paid punter in the league, right above Tress Way. That doesn’t work. Having the right of first refusal is smart, because I don’t think other teams are going to be smashing down the door for any punter. I’ve been a Bojo hater, obviously I’ve been wrong and he has developed nicely, but he should’t be paid elite punter money. 


    Maybe this year we draft Micheal Turk late, he’s already a legend here. 

    I think he deserves to be the third highest punter in the league, the problem is that we don't use him enough. Still though, it's really not breaking the bank either way, and last thing this team needs to scramble to find a punter. We have a good thing going, not to mention as a place holder, he's done a great job for Bass.

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  8. 2 minutes ago, BuffAlone said:

    I'm starting to think that Etienne, Toney, or IOL makes a lot of sense at 30. I just don't see great value on D at the tail end of the 1st round. Of course, alot can happen in FA, so nailing down a pick at this point is futile at best

    I agree, I was all about Jenkins or Leatherwood but now I think Etienne might be the best on the board. The acceleration is insane.

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  9. Just now, Royale with Cheese said:

     

    I honestly wasn't trying to use hyperbole.  When I hear "QB unfriendly" and doesn't have breakaway speed, that's really bad negatives. 

     

    Him and Brown are two different WR's.  I only worried about Davis's hands as he dropped a few really easy ones that cost us TD's.

     

    I think he's a deep threat but not a speed deep threat.

    1. Being QB friendly can be learned. I believe he was getting better near the end of the year, but I distinctly remember times where he ran his route and then stopped. One of those times, I think Josh even tried to throw it to him but he wasn't paying attention.

     

    2. He doesn't have breakaway speed. Are you arguing otherwise? This is only a concern because he's been used as a deep threat.

     

    He has tremendous body control, and I hope he takes the next step, but I really think JB is being underrated here.

  10. 38 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

     

    Could doesn't mean will.  

     

    You are basically describing Davis as terrible.  QB unfriendly with no speed....sounds like he should be out of the league.

    You have already labeled Davis after one season in which he had 7 TD's and 600 yards receiving.  

    No, I'm not doing that, I even threw in compliments ffs. I'm pointing out legit flaws as to why he isn't a one for one replacement. You can't definitively say that Davis will improve year 2, and with the Bills where they are, it isn't really wise to go into the season with a somewhat questionable commodity.

     

    Was the hyperbole necessary?

  11. 58 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:


     

    Serious question - Why?

     

    I mean last year as a rookie he replaced him fine.  We have another red shirted rookie - so maybe the plan is less speed and better routes.  A group with bigger bodies to fight through the type of coverage KC threw at them.

     

    I think they will miss his speed, but I think they will also get younger and different production from the position. 
     

    Plus the last stat I read yesterday was that Davis was the only receiver in the entire NFL over the last 8 games to have 20+ catches and average over 19 yards per catch.  He found ways to get deep even without Smoke’s blazing speed.

    Because Davis showed flaws that could be exposed if he becomes more of a focal point. For one, he wasn't very QB friendly. He tends to run his route and then call it a day, which doesn't work. Two, he doesn't have Brown's breakaway speed. I love the way he can contort his body mid air and make some great catches, but I don't think he's as good as Brown and might get exposed.

     

    Hope I'm wrong. I like Davis a lot, but I would have loved to see a full year of Beasley, Brown and Diggs.

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  12. 1 minute ago, DefenseWins said:

    I don't think a restructure was ever on the table either. 1. Gabe Davis needs to be the #3 WR. You cant be paying John Brown big bucks to sit on the bench. Davis is proof that you can find good young WRs even in the 4th rd. And Diggs, Beasley and Davis are a pretty good 3some to start with.

    I don't think Davis can replace Brown, but I hope I'm wrong.

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  13. 45 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

    100% ridiculous notion.

     

    Brown is in his feelings a bit. Too soon to be doing interviews with those fresh post-cut emotions running.

     

    It's a business. He'll get over it.

    Getting cut from a really good team while you aren't really being overpaid has to sting. It sucks. I'm not really a fan of the direction they've taken to create cap space so far. They still need a John Brown type receiver.

    7 minutes ago, K-9 said:

    That’s just frustration talking. Josh Allen has no say and I’d bet he’s sad to see JB leave. 
     

    Brown never looked the same after coming back from injury last year. He looked gimpy every time I saw him run. I’m not convinced he hasn’t permanently lost a half step, but I wish him all the best, regardless. 

    Tbf neither did Beasley. Neither of those guys were close to 100% when they returned.

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  14. 2 hours ago, Big Turk said:

     

    They really aren't in a mess.  They have lots of other things they can do to easily free up another $20+ million in cap space that doesn't involve cutting anyone via some simple restructures if they feel the need to.  As it is now they have close to $20 million in cap space...hardly a mess.

    I meant specifically regarding Star's contract, which is I think indisputably not very good for the Bills.

    2 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

    You have absolutely no idea like me and everyone on this board has no inside sources.  Star is key to this defense and smells like inspiring fear.  Done with is silly thread.

    Well, I mean, even if you believed he was the worst player in the NFL, cutting him still wouldnt make any sense.

  15. Yeah, it would cost 4 million more in cap space to cut him. This is a case where of he wanted to retire or something, the Bills would want to ask him to go along with a fake injury all season.

     

    Pretty brutal contract.

    1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

     

    Doesn't make sense unless there is some type of hurt feelings or the Bills are upset with him opting out and sending a message which doesn't really seem how they do business if they preach about caring about their players and families.

     

    Maybe a restructure?

    They already restructured him last year, which is why they are in the mess they're in now.

  16. 13 hours ago, Magox said:

     

    They aren't done yet.   They are waiting for things to shake out, I think the cuts they made were for players that they believe they already have or are pretty sure that they have upgrades or at least comparable options.   Gabe is very likely penciled in as the opposite side receiver to Diggs and Stills as a good option to stretch the field.  John Brown was flexible in this sort of cap crunch year.

     

    Jefferson disappointed and I think they saw enough.   Butler and Morse have taken pay cuts, and I imagine Addison is very likely a goner as well.

     

    The Bills have enough room to sign the rookie class and enough to sign some potential impacting well-known players who were cap casualties. 

    Jefferson was mostly playing out of position. I have no idea why they went with Butler instead.

  17. 14 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

     

    That's up to Josh, but he better take note of what happened to Brees in NO and what's currently happening with Russ in Seattle.  

     

    It's hard to build Championship rosters when 1 player is taking up so much cap room.

    It seems incredibly clunky to have a player forced to choose between getting paid what he's worth and having a winning team around him.

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