syhuang
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If you follow up on that article and look at the "stats" they provide on their site it shows that the left tackle (Shelton) is way above average. So they can't have it both ways.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol.php
Look halfway down, where they show the left tackle "stats" and then the average. They have Shelton with a 4.80 and ranked 9th in the league. the average LT is 4.28, what ever that means.
You're so funny, you need to understand what the number means before BS it.
The stat you refer to is not comparing players, it's comparing how the offensive line performs on each direction the running back rushes, the direction includes "Left End", "Left Tackle", "MID/Guard", "Right Tackle", "Right End".
Again, the "Left Tackle" listed in the table is not a player (Sheltion), it's a direction. For example, in the following play-by-play: "R.Brown left tackle to MIA 20 for 4 yards (L.Fletcher-Baker; A.Crowell).", the left tackle means a direction, not a player.
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You use the total yards on offense and defense for the team ranking. However, does "total yards" really reflect the real team ability?
We have to take more into consideration, for example, opponent's strength. Gaining 100 yards against Bears' defense shouldn't be viewed the same as 100 yards against Raiders' defense. Besides, the game circumstance is also important, for example, when you're leading by 20 points late in the game, you usually become conservative. Furthermore, touchdowns, turnovers, and drive success rate should all be considered when ranking team offense and defense.
Using a more advanced stas, DVOA, which take all of above into account, Bills' offense is ranked 24th and defense is 18th.
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In Chris Brown's blog, he mentioned Spikes practiced again today. He is close to return, maybe as early as this week. Also, Villarrial practiced today.
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Vincent is releaed now because he has recovered from injury and is ready to play. Eagles may bring him back since they're thin on secondary.
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Again my point. How can we be in any position to get this specific at DT right now? If a guy dominates the line of scrimmage, and is a little on the heavy side how can we say oh well he doesn't have a great first step. It's stupid to be so married to a system that it restricts yourself from getting good players in a scarce position, at a critical need.
The point is to get the right players for your system.
What I was trying to say is that a light-weight DT is not a problem for Tampa 2. I don't think Marv, Jauron and other coaches use a restrict rule on DT's weight and neglect any DT weights more than certain pounds. The DTs fit Tampa 2 require speed and penetration. As long as a DT has speed and can penetrate, he fits Tampa 2 no matter how heavy he is.
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The tampa 2 defense has lighter quicker DT's in the 300 lb range. Please refer to my old post which lists the DT size of teams using Tampa 2.
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Kevin Jones also suffered a concussion last Sunday and Roy Williams had a neck injury. They may be able to play this week but probably won't be 100%.
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Did you say something, VABills? Unfortunately, you're in my ignored user list and I don't want to waste my time to click the "View this opst" link or "Un-ignore VABills" link.
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What is your ranking based on? What kind of stats do you use? Do you compare the career stats or this year's numbers?
I hope you don't just choose few stats that favor your arguments or base everything on your observations like VABILLS.
What's this "still" business? ;-)Top Tier QB's:
P. Manning
T. Brady
C. Palmer
D. McNabb
M. Hasselbeck
D. Carr
Second Tier QB's
E. Manning
M. Bulger
J. Delhomme
M. Vick (an * if ever there was one)
D. Brees
R. Grossman
P. Rivers
Third Tier QB's:
B. Leftwich
C. Pennington
B. Favre (I still put him up here)
S. McNair
A. Smith
Fourth Tier QB's:
J. Plummer
B. Roethlisberger
M. Brunell
C. Frye
B. Johnson
Cover-Your-Eyes-Awful Tier:
D. Bledsoe
J. Kitna
D. Culpepper
A. Brooks/A. Walter/M. Tuiasasopo
Unratabe:
M. Leinart
V. Young
B. Gradkowski
D. Huard
I probably put Losman at the bottom of that 4th Tier, which I guess gets him into the Top 20 - but consider that four teams are playing without ratable QB's, and another four are in the cover-your-eyes-awful tier (which I do *not* put Losman in), being in the Top 20 isn't saying that much....
JDG
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Because four of the six NFC wins are against weak AFC teams, including two wins against Houston (1-3), one against Tennessee (0-4), and one against Cleveland (1-3).
The combined record of these AFC teams is 7-16, 30.4% winning percentage. In other words, these AFC teams' combined conference record is only 7-10 (41%)
Although AFC also beat some weak NFC teams, the combined record of the NFC teams losing to AFC is 6-11, or 35.3%. These NFC teams' combined conference record is 6-6 (50%).
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First, I don't think you are right that the QB rating tool should not be used for single-game performances. It seems to me that it is used for single-game performances all the time. At the very least, perhaps you could explain why you only consider aggregate QB rating, and not comparing single-game performances?
The main reason not to look individual game is that there's no standard way to do it. Some may only look at certain stats and the other use others. This is when the aggregate QB rating comes in. It's like using VORP to compare baseball players.
I never say I won't accept other measures. I even bring up DOVA and DPAR.
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It's not a surprise that this statement comes from a person who only uses observation and his observation is wrong.
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If you want to use QB rating, you need to understand that it's use to summon performance over certain number of games. You need to summon all game in a period together instead of looking at individual games separately.
Of course, you don't believe QB rating.
BTW, I study more stats than QB rating, and you must have seen I used DVOA and DPAR in this thread. I want to bring up these stas, but I still can not help you to accept these advanced methods.
And I can't help you if you won't respond substantively to any other method of comparing QB's than aggregate QB rating.But if QB rating is all you will listen to, then maybe you will listen to this:
First Twelve Games:
Games with 100+ QB Ratings: Losman - 2 (124 and 102) Brees - 2 (137 and 110).
Games with sub-40 QB Ratings: Losman - 3 (33.8, 34.0, 33.6) Brees - 0 (lowest were 41.5 and 58.7, with a 40.6 game in his 13th game)
JDG
Good article on Miami's o-line
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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How can you be this stupid? Miami has some success on rushing left tackle direction, does this mean their left tackle (Shelton) is a good lineman overall in pass protection and run block?