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    As a Bills fan of the NFL, what keeps your fandom?

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    3 minutes ago, Fleezoid said:

    I selected winning Super Bowl. I'll always be a fan, and it's about winning. But I'm having doubts it'll ever happen. Here's why....

     

    I came up with these numbers several months ago, so If I'm off, please pass it on.

     

    Of the 57 Super Bowls 30 of them have been won by just 6 teams. So more than half of the Super Bowls have been won by less than 20% of the league. 

     

    There are 12 teams that still have not won one. In the previous 10 years 2 teams came of that list starting at 14 dropping to the current 12. Philly and Seattle. You could say LA Rams, but LA got a win previously as the LA Raiders. In the next 10 years, how many of those winless teams will come off that list? My guess; probably 2 again, maybe 3. Might not mean much to some of you, but for the older folks, it's something to think about. It doesn't change me as a fan, but it certainly changes my expectations. 

     

    So to the point of the OP, I haven't thought much about players not giving their all. I feel it's more like the Bills aren't winning one as a Cinderella team, or a team that catches just enough breaks to pull one out. They'll have to be so dominant to be able to overcome the breaks that go the other way just to eek one out. 

    This is a fair take, and I appreciate your input. Some people will view this as a troll thread, but I’m genuinely interested to understand why people are generally fans. Especially knowing and participating in all the terrible years of ineptitude we’ve been through. 

    But my question to you is, why not us? Why not the Bills? Eventhough less than 20% of the league hasn’t won a Super Bowl, why can’t we become one of those successful franchises that have won multiple championships? Is it because our owners have been largely too inept or unwilling to spend money to acquire the talent needed? Pegulas seem to be willing to spend all the money needed, so why are we still struggling? That must mean it is because they have hired people that are too incompetent to bring in enough talent to win a championship or coaches to teach the talent enough to win a championships or a combination of both. Or it could just mean the players or coaches don’t really care enough, but which again reflects back on management and ownership on not hiring the proper people to win. 

    At some point as a fan who cares about winning over entertainment, you begin to ask hard questions as to why we are not winning. Looking for ways to win it all, and questioning other fans or players about not caring enough to want to win. 

     

    We already have Josh Allen, I don’t understand why we can’t get over the hump. The hardest piece has already been found, why can’t management make it work? 

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    Preseason is Meaningless, History Shows

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    6 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said:

    Well all I know is Stevw Spurriers Redskins teams were an unstoppable machine in the preseason and they always ended up carrying over their form into the regular season

    You play how you practice. If you can’t take practice seriously, it will eventually bleed over into game day. 

    As a Bills fan of the NFL, what keeps your fandom?

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    Sometimes I feel like the coaches and players do not care about the game of football and winning as much as the fans do. A lot of these players simply enter the league to collect a high paying job and playing a sport they love is 2nd place. 

    Some fans love it for the simplicity of being entertained, even if they don’t win. It’s something to do on Sunday to pass the time and enjoy the community bond. 

     

    As a fan of anything in life, I’m competitive, I just want to be dominant and the best I can possibly be at anything I do. Sure some entertainment does come from it, but it’s not the priority, its a byproduct of just wanting to win it all. 

     

    I think fans like me will eventually lose interest at some point and revert back to more “pure” sport competitions that still have the spirit of winning and dominating and not something to just go through the motions to collect a check. I think it is why a lot of fans enjoy more college and HS sporting events than professional events. 

     

     

    As a fan of the Bills, do you take it to personally like I do? Does being a perennial loser eat away at your fandom? Especially knowing that some players just seem to not really care about winning? I don’t think it’s the losing so much that bothers me (it does, but that isn’t the heart wrenching part of being a Bills fan). It’s possibly knowing that players aren’t giving 100% to win because they don’t care as much as fans do. Which sometimes gives off the impression that the NFL is fake or not worthy of following anymore. 

     

    I’ve been a Bills fan all my life, and it’s sometimes really disappointing. Especially when you know you have an elite talent at QB that doesn’t come around very often. Then you begin to wonder if the team will ever win, and then you start questioning is it because of incompetence or just going through the motions of collecting money. 

    Bills fans that are just in it for the entertainment likely don’t take the game as personally as I and other Bills fans do that prioritize winning above entertainment. That would explain why some fans lash out more often than other fans do. Then you start questioning each others fandoms and it spirals into a mess. 

     

    It would be nice to have some of y’all to discuss how you feel about all of this. 

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    McDermott Presser 8/19

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    If our D somehow manages to collapse this year, I just don’t see how McD wouldn’t be in the hot seat. It’s crazy to me that the owners basically seemed unconcerned and wrote a blank check and hitched their wagons without better supporting evidence. 

    What are your top TWO takeaways from the Bills-Steelers game?

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    Officially concerned. It’s just a preseason game, I understand that, but how this game unfolded had a flavor to it that made it so off putting. It was wretched, and it felt exactly like a Bengals hangover. The same disarray and complete flatness just should not happen, even for a preseason game. We got punched in the mouth, AGAIN! Things have been off since the Miami playoff game. I have no idea what it is, can’t put my finger on it. 
    While I still feel like we will squeeze out a playoff appearance, the vibe seems to have shifted and we’ve gone stale. Wasting Josh Allen. It’s partly due to McD and partly due to Beane not bringing in enough talent. 

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    O’Cyrus Torrence Dominating (video breakdown)

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    2 minutes ago, NewEra said:

    Another 3rd rd MLB- sounds like something we did at RB, one of the only other positions that get paid less than MLB.

     

    I doubt they’d ever draft 2 OTs in the first 3 rounds.  I’d be happy with it though. 

     

    Give me LT, WR, DT

    I just don’t want to waste Josh’s talents. I want to do everything possible to give him time in the pocket, if not I want a 1B WR over a mlb. I don’t know, I just want to win, I’m so tired of being disappointed. 

    Beane to blame

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    18 minutes ago, Steptide said:

    Almost a day later and I still don't care how ugly last night's game was. There's way too much talent on the bills to be as bad as they were last night. I'm fully confident they get it figured out. 

    “Talent” doesn’t get rolled the way we do sometimes. People give Beane credit for all this supposed talent, but I’m not seeing the desired results that we should expect. 

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    Beane to blame

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    42 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

    why because he has a competent coach and FO?

     

    It really is amazing these guys got Josh, while simultaneously getting so much else wrong.

     

    I’ve been one of the hardest on Beane. I know yesterday was a preseason game and it doesn’t really mean much. But it was just flat out embarrassing. I sometimes ask myself why I’m a Bills fan. A talented team on all tiers shouldn’t roll over the way they do at times, especially the Cinci game. 

    Bills practice Thurs 8/17 starting with McD interview

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    5 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

    We're talking about the MLB position. No new faces were brought in at that position. Williams and Howard aren't MLBs

    Going to be extremely tough with the defensive depth 

    Before, I feel like the Bills didn’t keep 7WRs because we always kept an extra spot for Taiwan. Now he is off the team, they likely go 7 WRs. 

    1 minute ago, gordong said:

    not sure Shorter has done enough to make this roster. and I don't see anyway they keep 7 WR. 

    That’s fine, then cut Shorter and keep Isabella and we roll. 

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