Turbo44
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17 minutes ago, Victory Formation said:
I’m liking all these mocks where you guys have us double dipping at WR! It is a historic draft for WRs indeed.
I think we definitely draft a wr with our first rd pick whether it’s a big trade up for the top 3, a smaller trade up for Thomas Ii or picking one at 28
ad for double dipping, I’m a firm advocate of trading 60 and a 2025 3rd or even our late 2 to move up to around 40 and grab our 2nd wr.
otherwise we draft one at one at 60 or 128
best case senario; Thomas at 19ish with. Trade up, sweet at 45 with another trade up and a second wr at 128.
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Yeah was a nice note to be honest and I don’t like him
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11 minutes ago, london_bills said:
Lack of statement from diggs to the fans says it all.
He sent a nice note the day he was traded actually. Granted, everything is surface with him
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Small trade up in rd 1 (#28 and 2025 2nd) for Thomas Ii and trade 60 a 5th and a 2025 2nd to High 30s to grab Ladd.
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Just now, Kirby Jackson said:
Justin Simmons
Yep that would be nice
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16 minutes ago, SCBills said:
Remember the year we were Super Bowl favorites?
We rolled into LA with Allen, prime Diggs and Von. All 3 played like impact players. Team looked like a juggernaut.
Then Diggs faded and disappears in the Playoffs. He’s gone. Von gets hurt. Hasn’t been the same since.
Who do we keep losing to in recent contending years? KC (2) and CIN (1).
CIN Impact Players:Burrow, Chase, Higgins
KC Impact Players:
Mahomes, Kelce, Jones, Hill
Mahomes, Kelce, Jones, Snead
Who does KC roll into ‘24 with this year?
Mahomes, Kelce, Jones
We should always be at 3 impact players. That seems to be a consensus number of what you need to lead your team into the games where it matters. Who can you count on to step up in the clutch.
We enter this year with:
Allen. ?. ?.
Kincaid is a guy we can reasonably hope becomes an impact player.
So where does the third impact player come from?
Not sure I see any DT’s or EDGE rushers out there for us that fit the bill. Same goes for CB.
Maybe Simmons at S? But that’s not a position I’d advocate paying big money at, especially for an older player. And can a S really take over a game?
All roads lead to WR1.
The Bills, who haven’t been able to get over the hump, could draft around 28 and or slightly move up for a Tier 2 WR. And that’s fine.. maybe this time it works. Maybe they double up with a vet or in RD2 and we have a really nice WR room, albeit without a true game wrecker.
Or maybe we finally get that guy to join Allen and potentially Kincaid. To give us that 3rd impact player.
A trade for an Aiyuk level receiver or packaging up picks for Nabers would signal a massive shift from building a roster with no holes, above average talent everywhere and plenty of depth (who haven’t been able to win when it matters) to a team with guys coming at you that can truly take over a game.
There’s risk involved if doing this through the draft, but the Big 3 all seem to be consensus Top 5 picks in any other draft.
Of course, the other option is fielding a competitive team this year, while playing it safe with the intention of going big fish hunting in FA next year.
So.. which way Beane?Because at some point.. Josh Allen needs 2 other impact players riding with him. A luxury that has helped propel Mahomes over him year in/year out.
The obvious way to get there this year is by going all out to address WR1.
Ladd at #28 (he’ll catch 100 passes as a rookie)
legette at #45 (after a trade up from #60) - the deep threat Josh really never has. Substitute Legette for with Franklin, Polk, Worthy, Coleman, even Walker depending on who the Bills like
3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:There’s really only 1 FA left now that can be considered an impact player. The Bills should sign him post June 1.
They’re going to need impact player(s) in the draft. They have a hard time finding them.
Who’s that? Odell?
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10 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:
Based on all the metrics, if we stay at 28, and are drafting a WR, Ladd McConkey has to be the pick…
He was not my first choice, but I have to trust the numbers…👍
I agree 100%. I don’t think Beane wants to give up 2 1st, 2 2nds and some late picks to move up to 5/6/7.
I do think he would be willing to give up a 2nd + to move up to the late teens to grab Thomas II if (1) Thomas last to then and (2) they have Thomas as their #4 wr, a lot of people do not.
I would take Ladd at 28 if he’s there (not a given as I could see KC trading ahead of us to grab him) then I would trade 60 and a future 2nd to move up to the low/mid 40s and grab Legette/frankli/worthy/polk/coleman, etc - whomevers left then and they like best.
adding Ladd +, say Legette would be awesome. I think the bills like both of them a lot. They’ve met with both a couple of times and Josh mentioned him prominently in a recent interview saying he’s got the best southern accent he’s ever heard.
we may also just stay at 60 and grab whomever falls to there, but they do have 10 picks and 10 draft picks arent making this team.
my dream senario;
#28, 2025 2nd, 2024 4th, 2024 5th for pick 27 or so and take Thomas Ii
#60 and other 2025 2nd for #40 and take Ladd who’s has fallen to 40
thomas and Ladd added to our wr corp and we’d still have a total of 8 2024 picks and picks in every round in 2025 except the 2nd. We will get 2 or so comp picks though in 2025
8 minutes ago, NewEra said:I don’t think many people, if any, think that Thomas will be there @ 28.
I’ve seen him mocked as early as 12 and lasting until 28. A lot of people have him as the #4 but a lot of people don’t. I’d love to see how the Bills rank the wr. My guess is they may have legette at #4 and may take him at #28. The kid is a one year wonder (no fault of his own) but oozes character. His story is heart wrenching. He and buffalo written all over him
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1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
Between 28 and 60 - the following WR's were selected:
30.) Baltimore: Troy Franklin - Oregon
33.) Carolina: Xavier Worthy - Texas
35.) Arizona: Xavier Legette - South Carolina
36.) Washington: Ladd McConkey - Georgia
43.) Atlanta: Keon Coleman - Florida State
46.) Indianapolis: Ricky Pearsall - Florida
48.) Jacksonville: Roman Wilson - Michigan
53.) Philadelphia: Malachi Corley - Western Kentucky
54.) Cleveland: Jermaine Burton - Alabama
58.) Green Bay: Ja'Lynn Polk - Washington
This exercise has proven the idea that you can still get a good one at 60 is a dangerous game to play. Legette isn't sniffing 60. I don't care what the simulators are telling you.
Or it's tells you whomever is making these picks is overdrafting WR's. But does tell you if you want to pick a Ladd type at #28 and double dip, you should be prepared to trade up from 60 to the 40's.
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2 hours ago, Saint Doug said:
Two words: Josh AllenHe’d otherwise be middle of the road.
Two words: Josh Allen
4 minutes ago, NewEra said:He gets plenty of criticism on this board. He also gets plenty of applause. Do you think the national media should be shredding him? Should Pegula call a pc to inform everyone that Beane isn’t getting a pass?
What shall we do ensure he doesn’t get a pass?
Not sure what the point of this thread is.
Idiotic topic; Beane has made us a SB contender each year.......next post
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1 hour ago, section122 said:
I added the top names I had left.
The first round pick was AD Mitchell. For those that want to double up there are no wrs in the vicinity but if you want to nominate someone else just post their name below.
Here is the link to the best available spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kKiIOcYaq1A0SI-iV5sNBub4GWz-FyrSHSHMSKqV_SQ/edit?usp=drivesdk
Here is the link to the draft so you can see everyone chosen so far: https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/253926-tsw-mock-draft-10-the-bills-tsw-poll-are-on-the-clock/
Polk is sefintiely in the 2nd round grade range
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Yes please
this is a ridiculously deep draft. Still having 8 picks in rounds 4-7 would be fine
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28 minutes ago, DieHardFan said:
Anyone make a poll to see where TBD stands on the trade?
(Not digging thru 141 pages of BS to look for)
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Whatta dipshit!
I like it a lot better now that Diggs will be a FA after this season. I have no idea what was happening behind the scenes with him, but, Diggs was obviously a problem
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I think Edge is our 2nd biggest need. This is what I'd like to see:
28 wr
45 wr - trade up from 60 using a 4th and get your next favorite wr
next 7 picks, not in this order
DE (2)
DL (1)
S (1)
RB (1)
LB (1)
OL (1)
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6 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
I'm not so great with this. I feel it's too much. Move up to the teens and take someone falling like Thomas Jr. Or AD Mitchell that Greg Cossell said can become thar X guy for you in the next year.
We need picks to put some guys on D who can seal the deal against KC and Cincinnati,as well as WR. Grab McCaffrey in round 4 to add another weapon as well.
You definitely don't trade up to take AD and I probably wouldn't trade up to take Thomas either. Nabers is as close as a sure thing in the draft, while AD and Thomas are not even close
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16 minutes ago, Rocbillsfan1 said:
That guy on Joe Marinos show convinced me, take Legette.
Yep unless I trade the farm for the top 3, in draft McConkey at 28 and trade up on the 2nd to take legette
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1 minute ago, Big Blitz said:
Tennessee and New Orleans are teams to watch trade back imo.
TEN would be a good trade partner probably. Why are they looking to trade back?
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25 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:
Just stop with the "move up to 6" or even top ten. We have way too many holes to fill and beaner won't waste all our picks for a rookie WR.
There were 4 WR's taken in the 1st round last year:
900 yards
800yards
600 yards
400 yards.
Good numbers, but not trading my whole draft for that.
Nabers, Harrison and Odunze weren’t the ones drafted last year. Lasts years WR class was mediocre at best, the top 3 this year are elite. I trade 2 1sts, a 2nd and a couple of mid round picks all day for Nabers and probably Odunze. Harrison is as good as gone - worst kept secret or ARI
7 minutes ago, nosejob said:I would gladly give the Giants next yrs 1st for 47, pick 70 and 166. WIN/WIN
Gimme Ladd, Legette, Sweat and Maason Smith....then BPA
I would too but NYG want to participate in the draft post rd 1. This would wipe them out pick wise, leaving them only 166 and 183. For two guys fighting for their jobs, they’re not sacrificing 2024
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NYG have a shortage of picks and a lot of needs. They also have pick #6 and Schoen and Beene are close. I think #28, a 4th and 5th this year and our 1st next year gets it done. That still leaves us with 8 picks this year And we get one of the top 3. Maybe our choice of 2 of the 3.
for all we know, Beane and Schoen might have a deal agreed upon but it won’t be announced until the NYG are on the clock. Here’s why: If the league thinks NYG might make the pick, they’ll think NYG might be picking a QB. If this gets a team jumping NYG to get that QB, it benefits Buffalo. If QBs go 1,2,3,4 and Alt 5; we have a choice of all 3
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On 3/29/2024 at 12:49 PM, 3rdand12 said:
Sweat for president !
And the WR , order does not matter. Maneuvering might be required
28 is too early for sweat. Wouldn’t mind a wr at 28 and a trade up from 60 to the mid 40s for sweat though
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10 hours ago, BigAl2526 said:
If the Bills picked Cooper De Jean, I would be happy with Devontez Walker in round 2.
I’d be much more interested in Polk than Walker at 60, and Polk prob last to 60
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On 3/29/2024 at 4:45 PM, Call_Of_Ktulu said:
I would trade Diggs and two 1st rd picks if we could get into the top 10 and have a chance at Harrison Jr or Nabers.
The salary cap says it would not make this trade
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1 hour ago, nosejob said:
How's this? BRANDON BEANE will get us 4 picks within the 1st 100. Latu, Sweat and two WRs...it shall Beane.
I don’t think we’re trading up for Latu and the chance of him making it 28 over very close to 0%. He may go top 15
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26 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
See there is no world in which I can watch Franklin's 2023 tape and Legette's and grade Franklin's higher. I know a big part of your concern on Legette is not the 2023 film so much as where was that in 2021 and 2022 and why did it take until 23 to play good football - which is fair. But I just think you are having to look at the most recent film of both and talk yourself into the less impressive tape. I'm not trying to convince you. I know we disagree. I am just trying to explain where I am.
I would be happy with either or Franklin or Legette at pick 40+ (trade down from 28 or up from 60); I wouldn’t be particularly happy with either at 28
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18 hours ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said:
I want to win a super bowl next year. I understand the wr thought process, it's just a question of when and to what degree a wr can help. I want the help this year, don't care about the future while we have Josh, have to be worried about 2024.
how are Franklin’s analytics? Bills seem to be spending a lot of time with him. Pac10, or wherever he played bs sec is thought to quantify
6 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:If not Brian Thomas, it'll be Troy Franklin. They know they need speed.
Also if speed is the factor, why not worthy over Franklin?
T'Vondre Sweat arrested for DWI
in The Stadium Wall
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Doesn’t rush the qb anywhere near what Jones does. Two totally different players