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    UDFA signing thread. 10 Signed 5 camp invites as of 07:39, 28 April

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    6 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

    It literally is on the original post. I keep editing it 

    Yes thanks!! It took a while to load on my phone and didn’t wait long enough - appreciate it!!

    I think gore, bills (guard) and the punter all have a chance. Gore could stick with an injury or could be Ps at least and bills nd the punter can make the team outright. I had 6th/ 7th round picks on all of them

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    Who do you want with our first pick in 2nd?

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    3 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

    I’m shocked that Mitchell is getting so much support. 

    6'3" 210 runs a 4.3/40 - best hands in the draft. can't teach this sh*t.  I think character issues are BS - our trainers will make sure he takes his insulin.  Only real red flag is bad YAC. Might be the route tree they had him run

    The Bills are on the clock: Pick 33

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    7 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

    I can't see this happening at all. It's a terrible trade for Washington!

    seems to good to be true BUT there always is a ton of interest in pick 33:

    1. teams have 20 hours to think.talk about it, and

    2. This year there are 3 players sticking out like a sore thumb:  DeJean, Johnson and Newton

    The Bills are on the clock: Pick 33

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    24 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:


    we would need to add

    I'd rather just pick my palyer of choice at 33 then trade 60 and next year's 2nd or 3rd for something in the late 30's.  Then Grab Dejean and Best WR available in the late 30s or grab 2 of the following- Ladd, Mitchell, Coleman, Polk, Franklin

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    The Bills are on the clock: Pick 33

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    4 minutes ago, ngbills said:

    We have Shakir and Samuel. I dont think the WR gets better with McConkey. We need Mitchell, Polk or Franklin . 

    I wan both.  Mitchell at 33, Ladd at 37ish (pick 60, a 5th and a 3rd next year, or something along those lines)

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    The Bills are on the clock: Pick 33

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    1 minute ago, OldTimer1960 said:

    I agree that they seem to really like him.  I would avoid AD Mitchell - too many reports of character/effort issues for my taste.  I don’t like Keon Coleman at any spot in round 2.  I do like Ladd McConkey, but I acknowledge that he has some size/durability risk and probably isn’t a deep threat in spite of his 4.39 40.  Polk and Baker are interesting, but not until late round 2 or later.

     

    Of course, these are just my fan opinions.

    Ladd has always been my favorite, and he could play Z, but his weakness is getting off blocks at the LOS so prob never can play X.  Therefore we'd have to draft an X and not sure whom that would be?  Unless we can trade for one. I like Coleman at 60 because he does have quickness, despite his 4.61 40.  Polk is a football player, afraid of nothing, but, unfortunately doesn't have a 5th gear.  I nsaying that, if you tell me we can draft Ladd at 33 and either Coleman or Pol at 60 (or with a slight trade up), I'm 100% all for that

    1 minute ago, Monty98 said:

    I would love Polk, but honestly I don't think we love him. Buffalo has very minimal if any contact with him so far. I think it's Coleman at 33🤮 or Dejean which I'd be okay with...same with Kool-Aid and take best WR at 60

    be careful with that.  Buffalo had very little, if any, contact with Kinkaid before the draft last year

    WGR callers way worse than any poster here…

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    52 minutes ago, Logic said:

    It's really only good listening for comedy purposes.

    I remember the year Mitch Trubisky was our backup the first time around. After a not-so-great outing by Josh (I don't remember which game), there was at least one caller very earnestly and pointedly suggesting that we bench Josh for Mitch. Seriously.

    For some reason, one's willingness to call into WGR to espouse their opinion seems to correlate directly with how undeveloped their critical thinking skills are.

    I like listening to the morning crew.  The afternoon crew of Brown and Maddy Glab is horrible. Schopp and dog are okay when they talk about sports

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    The Bills are on the clock: Pick 33

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    5 minutes ago, noacls said:

    Per Greg Cosell on Mitchell. Told of significant character issues by AFC  coach

    Tell the whole story.  Cosell also said he was told that Mitchell could be a top 10 NFL receiver and end up as good as the top 3 wr's in this draft if he puts things together.  So basically, low floor and super high ceiling

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    The Bills are on the clock: Pick 33

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    3 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

    Where do the reputable analysts rate Franklin?  Not very high.  What eye test did he pass.  I’ve watched multiple games of his and all of his combine on field work.  I see a very thin guy who is fast, but not ultra fast and doesn’t have instant acceleration as evidenced by his poor 10yd split in the 40.  His hands are pretty small and he is not strong enough tobexcel at contested catches.  The combine was poor with his inability to run anything close to a straight line in the gauntlet drill and him falling running routes against air.

     

    Now, clearly he produced big plays in college, but the PAC 12 isn’t exactly known for their defense.  I think he can be a complementary receiver in the NFL, but I am not expecting a star and in spite of his good speed I think he will struggle as a deep threat due to his lack of strength preventing fighting for contested catches.

     

    If the Bills pick him, I will hope that I am wrong about him, but he would not be my pick.

    Bills seem to love him. What receiver do you like best?

    Mock draft simulators.

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    5 minutes ago, Yantha said:

    Explanations:  

    Round 2a). I know that we've been joking about DeJean and picking CB in general, but we lost TWO of our STAR safeties and we need to attempt to replace at least one.  DeJean is a bon afide first round talent (but arguably safety, not corner in the NFL).  I'm saying that he's a GREAT fit as a Bill but not at corner.  We would need him to replace Micah Hyde and compete to start at FS.  Our current secondary will NOT fare well against some of these stacked offenses coming up and I'm not just talking about KC....  Look at what the Jaguars are doing for example....  I'm NOT happy with our secondary in the middle right now and DeJean might be as good as a guy like Eric Weddle (pro bowl safety; retired).  Why not Adonai Mitchell?  Well.... I just think that he's not all that much better than Jermaine Burton out of Alabama and I got him and Brenden Rice at 97 and 114 respectively.

     

    Round 2b).  I traded up for the Powerhouse in the middle.  We need sustained drives, better push for short yardage, and this allows McGovern to stay at OG where I think he is better on this team, while our anchor POWERS-JOHNSON would be a fixture for a decade.  Why not WR?  Top of the second outside of Adonai Mitchell just is NOT there.  

     

    95:  Nabbed a DL anchor at great value (still no WR sorry.  being patient)

     

    114/221:  Burton / Rice come right in and compete.  We could have a steal here.  BOTH players would have gone much higher if not for the HYPER FOCUS on the top 5 wideouts in this draft....

     

    221:  Nabbed BPA at a position of need.  We need OG depth still.

     

     

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    interesting but no DE is a problem

    The Bills are on the clock: Pick 33

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    4 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

    If it's wr at 33 why trade down?

     

    3 wr's went in-between when you started trading down and your pick

     

    Why risk having your guy or position get taken

    if they had worthy, Legette, Mitchell, McConkey, Franklin, Coleman, etc all rated relatively the same, trade down, get more assets and take whom you like best of the remaining at 33, or further trade down to 36 and do the same. i think there's a >50% chance they trade down again tol the gih 30s 'cuz I think they like Franklin and think they can get him at around 40

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    27 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

    Do people honestly think the Bills can draft a WR#1 now? At best, from 33? Franklin, McConkey, Mitchell? If they bring any of those in, they'll be #4 at best, behind Samuel, Hollins and Shakir.

     

    If they want a number one from 2024, they need to trade for it. Not draft.

    Hollins really? Hollins?  Come on now.  He a special teams player, emergency depth piece.

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    38 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

    Are people hating on Cooper DeJean because they don’t want a defensive player? Even if he is clearly the best available in a pretty thin safety class?

    He played one snap at safety last year, all the rest at CB. Not saying he can't play safety, but Iowa just didn't use him as one

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    The Bills are on the clock: Pick 33

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    2 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

     

    If you assume that Franklin or maybe Coleman is the guy Beane covets, and I can believe that, then here's how I'd bounce around Brugler's Day-2 Mock (Athletic, paywall) picking guys he mocks within a few spots after the Bills pick, for positions of need.

     

    Brugler:

    #33 Adonai Mitchell

    #60 Javon Bullard

    #95 Malik Washington

     

    Alternate: Alternately, in his mock Coleman goes #45 so a flip of #33 to Washington for #40 + #100 would get the Bills into position for that.

     

    VERSION 1 - ***TRADE***  #33 + #144 to NYG for #47 + #70, giving Buffalo the desired target of 4 Day-2 picks.  

     

     >>> #47 Troy Franklin, WR, Oregon - Slight receiver with good enough speed and great underlying win-rate metrics.

    Other Options: Kris Jenkins, DT, Michigan ; Jackson Powers-Johnson, G/C, Oregon ; Kingsley Suamataia, OT, BYU ; Maason Smith, DT, LSU ; Zach Frazier, G/C, West Virginia

     >>> #60 Javon Bullard, S, Georgia

    Other Options:  ; Braden Fiske, DT, Florida State ; Kamari Lassiter, CB, Georgia

    Or, a small trade-up (e.g. #60 + #163 to GB for #58 + #202) for Jaden Hicks, S, Washington State - The size and hammer of a SS and the range and playmaking of a FS.

     >>> #70 Austin Booker, Edge, Kansas - Athletic edge is still young and would greatly benefit developing in a rotational role.

    Other Options: Ruke Orhorhoro, DT, Clemson ; Brandon Dorlus, DT, Oregon ; Cole Bishop, S, Utah ; Ja’Lynn Polk, WR, Washington

     >>> #95 Javon Baker, WR, UCF - If drafting 2 outside WR on days 1 & 2 is the plan, Baker brings what Franklin doesn't in physicality and beating press.

    Other Options: Devontez Walker, WR, North Carolina ; Malik Washington, WR, Virginia ; Malik Mustapha, S, Wake Forest ; Dadrion Taylor-Demerson, S, Texas Tech ; Kamren Kinchens, S, Miami ; 

     

    I'd be worried That Franklin doesnt last to 47 and Baker doesn't last to 95

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